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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:56 PM
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Poll question: Best Bond
With the sixth Bond about to be unleashed on the forces of evil, it's time to choose your fave.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:29 PM
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1. Other...
Barry



:hide:

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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:54 PM
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6. you bet me to it!
:rofl:
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:55 PM
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7. It's not a "Best 'Roid Freak" poll
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:24 PM
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14. Couldn't resist!!
:rolf:

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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:30 PM
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17. I understand completely.
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WannaBeGrumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:27 PM
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16. That is definitely what I was going to put!!!
DARN YOU!
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:47 PM
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28. BOO conceited, arrogant, granstanding, lying, juicing baseball jerk.
HOORAY, beer!

:hi:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 07:40 PM
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30. Don't you mean THIS Barry?:


Bary Nelson as an Americanized "Jimmy Bond" in an early live-TV teleplay of "Casino Royale"
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:30 PM
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2. Timothy Dalton
I think that Dalton captured perfectly what James Bond was about.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:45 PM
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4. I think Dalton's was waaaay underrated
Connery remains my favorite however.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:50 PM
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5. Dalton was a good Bond
However, they put him in shite Bond scripts.

I mean, come on, Wayne Newton as a supervillain???
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:04 PM
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9. yeah exactly
who were the villains in his movies?

a smarmy ex-kgb general, a smarmy and silly gun and drug runner...both played over the top.
and
a seedy 'columbian' drug kingpin, and wayne newton...

His movies were two of the worst Bond movies of all time (I think Liscence to Kill is the absolute worst whereas Living Daylights rates above 'the world is not enough' with Denise Richards as a 'nuclear physicist' .

Still I think Dalton made the best bond.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:25 PM
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42. Isn't Wayne Newton a super-villain?
I mean those shows of his are torturous.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:31 PM
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48. Yeah, but...
Where else are you going to see 60 year old women hurling their undergarments towards the stage?

That's gotta be worth something, right???

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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:10 AM
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49. Tom Jones show
Or Barry Manilow.

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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:01 PM
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8. Bingo
I'm a true Bond afficianado. Not only do I own all the movies on DVD, but the books as well (Fleming and Gardner...the later ones not so much)

Dalton was the first one to truly capture Fleming's James Bond. Connery was always a bit too flippant, not dark enough. Roger Moore took it even further in that direction. Lazenby...well, while his movie remains one of my favorite Bond movies, he was just nothing. He had moments where he touched on it, but otherwise was blank.

Dalton was dark. He was a murderer for hire. He loved women, yes, but it was a power thing almost. He could soften, but he was generally hard and not all that funny. The early Flemming books actually followed the horror/survival model...in the sense that many of the books were about him just getting beaten half to death, yet still surviving (much like the horror movie where one coed survives the slaughter). He would get tortured, beaten, zapped, burned, shot, stabbed, forced to crawl through tunnels of steam vents, etc...

...and that's why Dalton failed. While he was the most accurate to the books, it was just too different from what the audience were used to. In addition the scripts he was given sucked ass. The Living Daylights had it's moments but had no clear villian. License to Kill was even worse with muddled villainy as well as pieces of different James Bond stories from the books they never used (such as the torture of Felix Leiter via Shark which was supposed to take place in 'live or let die' (which actually happened in book order before Dr. No)

Plus I think Dalton saw himself as above the role.

Still he was the best imho.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:34 AM
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35. good insight
nt
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:17 PM
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47. I actually liked Dalton's movies
I agree entirely with your analysis of the merits of each actor, but I heartily disagree with your evaluation of his movies. Ultimately, you're assesment of Dalton comes down to his realism. He's the only Bond, I think, that the audience could actually believe was a real international spy/operative. I think his story lines and scripts complemented that nicely. No the villians weren't ridiculous caricatures bent on destroying the world as we know it, but were very dangerous people nonetheless. I, for one, like the more realistic plots and villians. Far and away my two favorite Bond movies are The Living Daylights and From Russia With Love. For me both are taut, well-done, and realistic spy thrillers with just the right mix of dry humor and romance.
License to Kill, for me, is somewhere among the second tier of Bond movies that I thoroughly enjoy, but which have flaws that keep them from being really great. I actually like the whole cast of characters. I also think the movie is a far better tale of Bond's personal revenge that Die Another Day.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:36 PM
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3. Sean, Pierce, Roger...in that order
Pierce was born to be Bond.

Roger is The Saint to me....
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:12 PM
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10. Dalton, Connery, Brosnan, Lazenby, Moore
we'll ignore the americanized version played by Barry Nelson ("Jack...Jack Bond."...*shudder*) and the wonderfull David Niven in the original Casino Royale. Also ignoring Craig as I haven't seen that movie yet, though the preview looks cool.

Dalton - Best and truest Bond to the books. He was the only actor who actually appeared to have read the original material and he's the closest to actually captureing Bond. Unfortunately he was saddled with two of the worst Bond filmes.

Connery - He'll always just be Bond to people, and it's cause he was awesome at it. While he didn't adhere as strictly to the original character, his charm made up for it, and he had momemts of perfection.

Brosnan - He was too old from the start and it would have been nice to see him do it back in the 80's when he initially wanted to take over for Moore. If he just didn't bite every woman he kisses on film I might rate him higher.

Lazenby - Too short a stint by his own choosing. Not a great actor, but had his moments on film, partially because he was carried by a great film.

Moore - Worst.Bond.Ever. The epitome of 'Not Bond'. Couldn't have been further from the essence of Bond if he tried. Bond was about his shirt ripped from his back, scalded by steam, jumping out of a grate after hours of torturous crawling, and killing the bad guy with his bare hands and a snarl on his face. Moore's Bond barely messed up his nice white wide collared shirts while he used the gadget on his watch or in his shoe to snarkily cause his opponents demise with s smirk. Not. Bond.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:12 PM
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11. Connery and Brosnan are the best.
Followed by Moore. The rest just don't cut it in my book.
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:15 PM
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12. Moore, but only because....
...he starred in my favorite Bond movie: Live and Let Die. Not only do you have the attempt at the blaxploitation film, which I find funny, but the star villan is awesome actor Yaphet Kotto(sp), and it stars a young Jane Seymour.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:24 PM
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13. That movie did cause me to crush on Jane Seymour
So hot. One of my favorite Bond girls....that's a different poll question though...
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:27 PM
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15. David Niven.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:31 PM
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18. You're just being ornery.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:07 PM
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19. Yes.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:07 PM
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20. ok then.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:47 PM
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27. Hell, he was better than Woody Allen....
:-)
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:08 PM
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21. I don't see a "none of the above" option, so I'm not answering.
They're all categorically awful.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:16 PM
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22. Sean Connery...:)
But Brosnan did a great job...:)
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:22 PM
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23. Roger Moore looked too old when he started playing Bond
Moore has a great story about how he as a young actor had lunch with Noel Coward, who said to him something like "Anyone who looks as good as you, and has as little talent, should never turn down any job offered." Moore claims that he has followed that advice ever since
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:26 PM
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24. Frankly, I like Brosnan, Dalton and Moore all better than Connery.
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 03:28 PM by Radical Activist
Connery never came off as British enough. His are not my favorite Bond films. I can't even tell you what any of them are exactly about. Brosnan and Dalton are my favorite actors as Bond, but Moore had good films to work with.

The Brosnan films should get more credit for being politically relevant and timely. They touch on some excellent issues. They are all highly political leftist films. A media mogul starting a war to boost his ratings, terrorists trying to ensure they control the worlds oil supply, and weapons in space getting the hands of a rogue state. Good stuff.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:45 PM
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25. Christmas Jones
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 06:46 PM by Ravenseye
Hi I'm a nuclear scientist and I'm so serious


Brosnan films were more relvant, you're right, but man...that one was a stinker...Horrible casting.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:31 AM
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34. No way
I love Denise Richards and Bond films have always had some far-fetched characters.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:16 PM
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37. Don't get me wrong
Any series that had a early character, written in the fifties, who was a lesbian flying instructor named Pussy Galore, certainly is in line for far fetched characters. Plus I like Denise Richards too. Even though my wife thinks she looks like she got run over by a car, I think she's hot.

I just couldn't stand her in that role. It was just really awkward. Too young for the part, and a poorly written part at that.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:48 PM
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43. You gotta admit, though...
Sophie Marceau was very well cast.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:15 PM
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46. Yeah she was good
Otherwise a good cast.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:47 PM
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26. Super Glue.
Far superior to Krazy Glue.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:37 PM
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38. That's just super ornery.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 06:49 PM
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29. Pierce Brosnan.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 08:16 PM
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31. covalent bond
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 08:19 PM
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32. Dalton, followed by Moore...
(Moore's performances in The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only are truly terrific)

Lazenbby comes next; not bad for a first-time acting job - never mind a major motion picture.

Connery always came across as wooden, and then there's "Goldfinger" that essentially ensures we get a series of camped up movies from then until "The Spy Who Loved Me" apart from Lazenby's failed outing (which in turn caused the camp and sensationalistic garbage to really be ramped up)

Brosnan wants to look like Dalton and act like Connery, but he ends up looking making Roger Moore's antics in "Octopussy" utterly dignified by comparison... which is ironic, for all of its dumb silliness, "Octopussy" is one of my faves. It also feels fresh and genuine, whereas Brosnan's era is all glitzed up garbage that prefers eye-candy over any sort of substance whatsoever.

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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 08:21 PM
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33. ...
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:36 AM
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36. you can join whoisalhedges in the ornery corner.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:43 PM
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39. class c treasury bonds
from 1933. henry morgenthau was the secretary of the treasury then.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:51 PM
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40. there's an ornery club. i'm making t-shirts. what's your size?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:23 PM
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41. Connery was the best

Closely followed by Lazenby.

Though the new guy could be quite good.

Mind you, the films Connery was in were so good, albeit campy that they leave the rest in the pale.

Nowadays the films are too gimmicky.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:51 PM
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44. Connery first
Then...

Brosnan
Moore
Dalton
Lazenby (though hard to tell, since his voice was dubbed for half the movie)

If Daniel Craig is as good at playing Bond as he was in "Layer Cake", then he'll be up the list somewhere. I think he'll surprise a lot of people.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:53 PM
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45. i voted for the new guy; Daniel Craig, seen the new trailer, and think...
he will bring a fresh & edgy new slant to the role :thumbsup:
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