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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:03 PM
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Prayers and/or good vibes desperately needed
(Names changed to protect the innocent, and, unfortunately, the guilty)

LTwife and I are in a nasty custody dispute with her
daughter, Mary, concerning Mary's 1 yo daughter, Katie.
Mary has every right, for the time being, to custody.
However, since Katie was born, we have taken care of her.
Mary flits in maybe once a week or so. Up until now, no
problem. Yesterday, Mary shows up with the cops and takes
Katie. LTwife is heartbroken, worried if Katie is OK. You
see, Mary is a very irresponsible person, who signed costody
of Maddie, Katie's 3 yo sister over to us.

LTwife saw a lawyer, recommended by her Church, today.
It'll cost around 5 Grand, but he thinks, given Mary's
history, we'll pervail in court. But the hearing is on
Nov 7(great timing, huh?). Since we can't prove Katie in
in immenent danger, no TRO can be issued.

Vibes to LTwife and to Katie, please. Voodoo doll pins to Mary.
I'll be fine. Thanks in advance...LT.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:05 PM
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1. Oh, no.
Good luck, LT. Hope it all works out. :hug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:10 PM
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2. Parents have a Constitutional right to the custody and care of . . .
. . . their minor children.

Uphill battle.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:17 PM
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3. We know
many witnesses will testify to Mary's behavior, including
several in LTwife's Church. We're talking Alabama here.
Law considers best interest of the child paramount.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:26 PM
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7. Not enough facts.
You are posting in terms of characterizations. That is prudent.

However, nobody can really answer your question unless you describe, in detail, Mary's behavior. Therein lies the crux of the case.

:)

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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:34 PM
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9. On purpose
The gory details will come out in Court.

I'll post the W***** County Family Court
transcript when it becomes public record.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:54 PM
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16. Something for you to know.
It is unconstitutional for a state court to take a child away from a natural parent and give the child to a grandparent based upon a "best interests" standard.

The "best interests" standard only applies as between the two natural parents.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:59 PM
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20. A fly in the ointment, but thanks for the info
Sometimes a lawyer can pull something out of his butt
and convince a judge. BTW, are you a lawyer? Sure do
sound like one :toast:
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:21 PM
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4. Prayers and good vibes ...
definitely! Keep us updated, OK? :hug:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:42 PM
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12. You got it
We'll know Nov 7-in more ways than this!
Thanks! :hug:
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LadyoftheRabbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:21 PM
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5. Best of wishes to you...
and your family. Katie looks like a sweetie :hug:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:39 PM
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11. She is, lel
I'll post a pic as soon as the lawyer says OK.
Thanks! :hug: Say hi to lizziegrace for me.
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:24 PM
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6. Oh, I'm so sorry
And I'll send all the good thought I can your way. How heartbreaking. And you need 'em to, so you're getting 'em too and I don't wanna hear any arguments.

So. There.

I'll keep y'all in my thoughts. Everything's gonna be fine, you'll see.


:hug::hug::hug::hug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:33 PM
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8. Seriously.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:52 PM
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15. Positive thinking and a good lawyer
Works for me!

Thanks!

:hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:38 PM
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10. good vibes
and keeping you and yours in my thoughts and prayers :hug:

:loveya:

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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:47 PM
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14. Thanks, merh
Considering your plight, I'm honored.

:hug:

:loveya:
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:45 PM
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13. Best of Luck to You....
I have a friend planning ahead, assuming she will soon face a similar situation.... I feel that you truly have the girl's best interest at heart, and I hope you will prevail.

:grouphug:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:54 PM
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17. We do, and we will
Thanks!

:grouphug:
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marzipanni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:57 PM
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18. Perhaps she will flit back in to bring Katie back
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 11:04 PM by marzipanni
How old was Maddie when you got custody of her?
I hope this all works out for you, LTwife, and the little girls. I think Mary needs prayers/good vibes, too,

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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:10 PM
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22. Maddie was 18 mos
Mary couldn't handle the responsibility. IMO she still can't.
But, that's for the Court to decide. You're right, as pissed
as we are at Mary, she, too needs prayers/vibes. Right now, though,
our concern is Katie. Thanks. :)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:57 PM
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19. Good luck, LT.


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:08 PM
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21. My dear liberaltrucker........
All my prayers and good vibes to all of you in this awful situation....

I think you will prevail!

Hang in there, good buddy.........:hug: :loveya:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:15 PM
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23. Thanks, Peggy
This poop just hit the fan yesterday. Caught me soooo off-guard.
Damn... I picked a helluva time to quit drinking :rofl:

Hanging in mi amigo!


:hug:

:loveya:
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 02:24 AM
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24. Good vibes to all of you
Sounds like you really need them now.

I hope you can resolve this without a nasty court battle. Those sisters need to be together. Hopefully Mary will realize that she is doing them great harm by separating them.

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 02:31 AM
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25. Good vibes your way....
...in a good world, it should be what's best for the child. It sounds like y'all are providing the best opportunity for her. It would be a shame if that was taken away from her.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 04:43 AM
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26. vibing you the best.
very difficult times i'm sure -- please send our best to mrs trucker as well.

good things to ALL of you -- most especially katie{do i have that right?}.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 05:16 AM
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27. Welp, I'll be skipping the voodoo doll pins, but will hope for
all the best for the children involved.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:09 AM
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28. I hope everything works out
and that nothing bad happens to Mary.

Hold on and do the right thing. :hug:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:44 AM
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29. I have an acquaintance who is going through something
similar. My best wishes to you. I can't imagine how stressful this must be for you and your wife. I'll be praying for Katie. :hug:
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