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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:26 PM
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Forrest looks at Both Sides Now: in and out of love
Most of us have probably been in love by now, or thought we were or were otherwise close enough to it, and most of us have probably been hurt by it at least once. Here're some Elvis songs from the late '60s and the '70s that I recently recorded (ostensibly for potential demo use, though the real reason is that I am enjoying the hell out of it and it's great vocal exercise) that relate to one or the other states...if you want to hear any of them, take your pick from whichever category you're feeling applies today... :D



And, if it's this first category that applies, I hope the second instead applies -- if not tomorrow -- some day soon, in the right time...


Love sucks:






Suppose (1967) MP3 - 4.47 MB; 3:10
Elvis must have really liked this beautifully melancholy song because there are tapes of him recording it at home in 1966, with just piano accompaniment, then he devoted an entire overdub session to that home-recorded track in March of 1967 (the results not released until the late '80s) before finally laying down two different versions of it in the studio for the Speedway soundtrack three months later...and then it was cut from the film!

Wearin' That Loved On Look (1969) MP3 - 3.90 MB; 2:46
Do You Know Who I Am? (1969) MP3 - 4.06 MB; 2:53
Only The Strong Survive (1969) MP3 - 3.80 MB; 2:41
Three from the legendary Memphis sessions that produced such hits as "In The Ghetto," "Suspicious Minds," "Kentucky Rain," and "Don't Cry, Daddy" and featured a ton of lesser-known gems that are certainly among my favorites. "Only The Strong Survive" was essentially my theme song through my 20s and it's come in handy since, too. Bootlegged outtakes of "Do You Know Who I Am?" reveal that Elvis had problems with the modulation halfway though the song...I figured I'd be okay with that, forewarned as I was by Elvis' experience and knowing the song in its entirety as he'd finally successfully recorded it, but -- wouldn't you know -- the thing tripped me up anyway.

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right (1971) MP3 - 6.01 MB; 4:16
In the middle of May, 1971 sessions for a Christmas album, Elvis launched into a long jam on this Bob Dylan song. It was an informal studio jam that was not intended for recording, though 15 minutes or so were captured on tape and RCA edited part of that long version down to a few minutes for album release a couple of years later when they were desperate for new product from Elvis. Elvis routinely, right from the beginning of his career, engaged in long jams (up to a half hour on a single song, often -- as with this one -- repeating the same lyrics over and over, possibly because they're the only ones he recalled) in the studio just to work out the kinks, have fun, and loosen up vocally and otherwise. Indeed, on the unedited long version of this song you can hear Elvis approach the same repeated lyrics in a variety of different ways as if he was practicing his ballad voice, his rock voice, etc. Elvis was really on a folk kick in 1971 (he did two Gordon Lightfoot songs during an excellent session in March that was cut short when Elvis had to rushed to a doctor for an emergency procedure to save his sight from glaucoma) and is rumored to have recorded a lot of Bob Dylan songs (and others, including some Kris Kristoffersen songs other than the one that year that he actually recorded for release) during these sessions, probably as jams that weren't meant to be recorded. A few years back, his record company released a very short, a capella, between-takes snippet of Elvis singing "I Shall Be Released" that sure makes me hope the rumors are true.

If You Don't Come Back (1973) MP3 - 3.29 MB; 2:20
Find Out What's Happening (1973) MP3 - 4.17 MB; 2:57
Two Elvis did during a somewhat abortive session in Memphis' famed Stax studios. Partway through the multiday sessions, Elvis' session band (that included some of the more storied of Memphis' session men) changed lineup and the new guys were so in awe of Elvis that they found it hard to work. On top of this, Elvis was picking some odd and very eclectic material (including quite a bit of soul-influenced stuff -- he loved that music and showed up at the studios in a 'Superfly' outfit complete with broad-brimmed hat) and I think this might have been the session wherein Elvis demonstrated a gun disarm and sent a handgun flying across the studio and smashing into one of the guitarists' instrument. Elvis wrapped the sessions up early, without finishing all of the songs he'd picked out. "If You Don't Come Back" was the first song laid down, with Elvis decked out in full Superfly mode, and it's one that I've just always loved, with its funkitude and wahwah guitar -- I even used to often find myself humming it in a bass tone, over and over, while SCUBA diving.

Sweet Angeline (1973) MP3 - 3.55 MB; 3:13
I Miss You (1973) MP3 - 3.17 MB; 2:15
Recorded in Elvis' Palm Springs home in September, a few weeks after a month's gig in Vegas, "Sweet Angeline" was one of the songs for which the studio band recorded a track but to which Elvis did not add a vocal before he called the session quits (he usually recorded live with the band on every take, as was very much his preference even when later recording technology made separate recording of track and vocal desirable). He and one of his vocal backup groups laid vocals down in Elvis' home and he had his TCB concert band members join him for a session and a bit of a vacation to record, from scratch, two other ballads, one of which was "I Miss You." About three weeks later, Elvis and Priscilla walked out of a Santa Monica courtroom, hand in hand, with their divorce final.

Susan When She Tried (1975) MP3 - 3.44 MB; 2:26
Pieces Of My Life (1975) MP3 - 5.73 MB; 4:04
By March of 1975 Elvis hadn't been in a studio to record for 15 months and RCA was desperate for new product. The norm for the early '70s was for Elvis to do marathon sessions that lasted several hours a day for several days and provided enough material for three albums and some singles, but somewhere along the way he got burned out on studio work and just stopped recording, putting all of his energy toward touring. After a lengthy stay in a Memphis hospital (he referred to it during the Vegas appearance that followed this Hollywood session by a few days), Elvis went in to record exactly enough material for one album. He was in great form and, unlike his last public appearances in 1974, seemed very upbeat even though he was heavier than he'd ever been. The recordings from this session (including a great between-takes jam on "Tiger Man" that surfaced a few years ago) were of uniformly high standard. Brian Wilson visited Elvis in the studio during these sessions and Elvis stayed on after the recording was over to rehearse for a new Vegas repertoire. "Pieces Of My Life" could almost be a theme song for Elvis -- it's pretty biographical -- though, really, it probably applies to a lot of us at one point or another. I found it difficult to stick to the lyrics of "Susan When She Tried" because I got Elvis' (outtake) singing "I took it hard with Peggy Fleming" stuck in my head...at least it wasn't an X-rated word substitution on his part like the several that consistently throw me off on certain other songs. :o

Never Again (1976) MP3 - 4.23 MB; 3:00
Elvis' February, 1976 sessions from the Jungle Room in Graceland included a preponderance of songs that were pretty much 'downers' -- heavy depressions blues -- and this is a good example of one of them: "a heart that don't care don't get broken." The session had a definite theme, unintentional as it was. The sessions also yielded the hit "Moody Blue" and "Hurt," as well as the more upbeat-sounding "For The Heart," and Elvis recorded in the Jungle Room again (including the single, "Way Down") at the end of October, his last session ever.



Love is the best there is:






And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind (1969) MP3 - 4.61 MB; 3:16
Power Of My Love (1969) MP3 - 3.81 MB; 2:42
Two more from the 1969 Memphis sessions. "And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind" was a new song from Neil Diamond -- in fact, I think he hadn't recorded it yet (Neil was recording his Memphis album, that included "Sweet Caroline" and "Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show," during the day while Elvis was recording his material at night) -- and I really think Neil knocked that one out of the park in terms of a contemporary romantic song. Very nice and evocative hippie-sensibility love tune, methinks, and Elvis nailed it with a very tender treatment. It sure feels like love to me. "Power Of My Love" is its slightly more direct blues counterpart, with a more blatant and overpowering sexual edge (not least as a result of Elvis snickering after he sings "no, baby, you can't lick it"). I don't know about love: this one feels like pure sex, to me, and not the delicate kind...

Your Love's Been A Long Time Coming (1973) MP3 - 3.70 MB; 2:37
Spanish Eyes (1973) MP3 - 3.36 MB; 2:23

For some reason, my track for "Your Love's Been A Long Time Coming" is missing all backing vocals, which is okay because I kinda like most of the 'raw' tracks I've heard from Elvis (most bootlegged), the basic tracks as recorded in the studio before they overdubbed strings, horns, and additional voices. I like this song, which is an obscure one, recorded right after the dynamic "Promised Land," from excellent sessions in Stax studio in December of 1973. These sessions were in marked contrast to the July ones, and produced some truly excellent songs, many of them among the lesser-known in Elvis' catalog. Part of the key to the sessions' success may have been that Elvis used the nucleus of his concert band as his house band on this one. And I recorded "Spanish Eyes" for the same reason Elvis threw it in, because it kinda got in my head and has a nice melody (he was a sucker for Spanish-influenced music, just as he was for Spanish-influenced fashions). It was tough not to throw in "say you and those Spanish guys will wait for me," as Elvis did on a bootlegged home recording.

I Can Help (1975) MP3 - 5.94 MB; 4:13
Another from the March Hollywood sessions. Songwriter Billy Swan, who had a hit with this in 1974, used to be a gate guard at Graceland. I believe that, like Don McLean (when Elvis recorded his "And I Love You So" at these very same sessions), Billy Swan asked for and received an article of clothing worn by Elvis while recording his song. He probably didn't mind the royalties, either. I always liked the patented 'Elvis-style' ending on this one. :-)






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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:32 PM
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1. today for the first time
i viewed your profile and read the Dylan lyrics in the comments section...i thought "cool" as I am Dylan fan.

i appreciate Elvis' cover.

"Little Sister" is my Elvis song. My older sister use to sing it to me when we were kids.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:43 PM
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5. I love "Little Sister," too,
little buddhamama... :hug:

It's a great song, done by anybody, but Elvis' 1961 original is hard to beat.

Elvis' cover was just a rough jam, not meant for ears outside the studio, but I kinda like its looseness and nice acoustic guitar work (that the track I used does a fairly good job of suggesting). Have you heard Elvis' "Tomorrow Is A Long Time"? Mr Zimmerman said Elvis' version of that (in 1966) was something he treasured.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:00 PM
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14. Lucky me
to have a Mom with such great taste in music. If there is an Elvis song I haven't heard, I'd like to know about it. My mother was a die-hard; she saw Elvis perform on two occasions. She was a fan of Dylan too, hence my appreciation of both artists.

Forrest :yourock: :loveya:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:08 PM
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17. You are, indeed, fortunate!
And thou doest, indeed, rock. :loveya:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:07 PM
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24. Especially for you...

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=71804EB572CD6B1F

I just recorded it through my laptop's built-in microphone (I do my recording somewhere else and my handheld mic's over there) but I hope it does the trick...unfortunately, I started cracking up when I reminded myself of a rather controversial restaurant thread here on DU and I just couldn't really recover (I don't know if you can hear it, but it was "it was at Cr**ker Barr*l," a bold statement. indeed), so that's my excuse for losing the song's key thereafter, along with my mind...

:D

I ended up crying...I'm sure anyone hearing this, will, too, but for different reasons. :P
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:15 PM
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26. awwww!
how sweet. thank you Forrest, I enjoyed the song immensely. the laughter just added to its charm, imo. :loveya:

you are one very talented and charming fellow :toast:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:30 PM
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28. Thank you, Ms mama...
you know all about talented and charming, I think, from an inside perspective. :loveya:

One of these days I'll record this song properly...all I have thus far, apart from this example (and I fully expect the Zomby dude to never speak to me again!), is a concert medley of "Little Sister" and "Get Back."

:hug:

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:37 PM
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2. I finally was able to download one...very nice
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:45 PM
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7. Cool!
Thanks, NSMA!

Of course, I'm saving "There's No Room To Rhumba In A Sports Car" for the next time I'm riding alongside you in the NSMAmobile... :D

We'll have the track come on the radio at just the right time, and everything, just like in the movies. :P
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:49 PM
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11. Now that will be fun
on the other hand, I do get a bit concerned about you and this alter ego thingy. You know...like when I give you a hug, you really don't need to say, "uh....thankyou very muuuch"

Maybe we should rent you some scuba gear when you come out just so you don't lose yourself in all of this :D
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:09 PM
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18. SCUBA gear! Yes! Now THERE is an idea!


:D
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:38 PM
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3. wow, what a retrospective!!
bookmarking this one:hi:

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:47 PM
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8. Thank you, Ms horses...
:hug:

Elvis is a tough act to try to approximate (hell, even if you can technically get it right, and do all the notes, it's never going to be Elvis, with that X-factor missing) and I'm happy if I'm even in the same general zip code as the dude...or in a nearby community. :D
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:42 PM
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4. That is amazing!
You're one talented guy, Forrest. :applause: I hope you do a demo and that it gets picked up. :woohoo:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:49 PM
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9. Thank you, Ms Chick1981
:hug:

For a moment there, I thought my Asse was showing... :P

I'll keep you posted (and, no, I swear there's no innuendo there, just this once)

:*
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:44 PM
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6. Great selection
I made a mix tape once of a lot of these songs and called it "This is it"..lol. It was my heartache tape. You have the best one missing though:

I've been in love so many times
I thought i knew the score
Now you've treated me so wrong
I can't take any more

And it looks like i'm never gonna fall in love again
Fall in love, i'm never gonna fall in love
I mean it, i mean it, fall in love again

I gave my heart so easily, cast aside my pride
When i saw you in his arms baby
I broke down and cried

And it looks like i'm never gonna fall in love again
That's what i'm sayin' fall in love, no, i'm never gonna fall in love
Please don't make me fall in love again

That's why i, no, i'm never gonna fall in love
Please don't make me, don't make me, fall in love again

BTW, did you know that they released some Camden cd's? I got Almost in Love and Flaming star
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:04 PM
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15. Ha! Point of fact: I DO gotcha "I'll Never Fall In Love Again," right here
Scars on the motherf***ing heart! And there's not a got-damned thing you can do about it...

:D

A good companion piece to "Never Again," I always thought (so did Elvis, I guess). I know I sure feel that way when it all goes South... :-(

Yeah, I used to have a bunch of tapes that mixed up his songs for different purposes -- travel and high adventure and then, of course, the heartache and surviving-heartache ones -- and when my marriage fell apart I burned five CDs that told the whole story from the "Suspicious Minds" kind of stuff through the sad stuff and then on to the I'm-going-to-handle-this stuff and on to hope for the future (lots of movie songs for that part, like "There's A Brand New Day On The Horizon" and all the roustabout-y, girlsgirlsgirls stuff)...I'd listen to them while I walked and walked, and it was all very therapeutic.

Nope, I didn't know that they'd released Camden CDs. Do they have extra tracks? Those albums had some good stuff buried on them (though the "Burning Love" LP was kind of what-the-hell-?) and some of my first impressions came from that sort of thing. Cool!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:12 PM
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20. Ahh...there it is!
Great version.

Nope, no extra tracks, but I like it that way. They take me back to when I got them when they came out. We were poor..lol, so the Camden stuff was what my parents got me. I like the fact that I can listen to them as is and it takes me back to when I was as was.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:18 PM
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22. Thanks, caballero
I like that, too, the original track listings on the albums (and even if I wanted a CD of Moody Blue, which would be kind of silly because I've got all the tracks on it on both the original LP and on CDs, I wouldn't buy the reissue because they destroyed one of the best album covers Elvis ever had). I wish the same thing about certain movies, which is why I haven't bought the Star Wars DVD (though I guess Darth Lucas is relenting, or maybe already has, and is putting out on DVD the original we saw in '77) and why, even though I love it still, I kinda wish my DVD of Close Encounters was exactly the same as what I saw in the theater all those years ago. And then there's the special edition of That's The Way It Is -- spectacular stuff, but cutting "I Just Can't Help Believing"?...that's sacrilege, dammit...
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:26 PM
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23. Or even worse
Cutting "It Hurts me" from the 68 show. WTF????

I used to have some "Moody Blue" posters from when it came out. Man, I wish I still had them.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:16 PM
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25. Yes, that was the unkindest cut of all...
:-(

Stupid...I think they claimed that someone messed up and they overlooked including it. Whoopsie. If so, who've they got working on these things?

It was cool, one of Elvis' best and most underappreciated ballads along with martial arts and a parody of Elvis' films...what could be better? :D
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:49 PM
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10. Went To See The Gypsy
Dylan's tribute to Elvis:


Went to see the gypsy,
Stayin' in a big hotel.
He smiled when he saw me coming,
And he said, "Well, well, well."
His room was dark and crowded,
Lights were low and dim.
"How are you?" he said to me,
I said it back to him.

I went down to the lobby
To make a small call out.
A pretty dancing girl was there,
And she began to shout,
"Go on back to see the gypsy.
He can move you from the rear,
Drive you from your fear,
Bring you through the mirror.
He did it in Las Vegas,
And he can do it here."

Outside the lights were shining
On the river of tears,
I watched them from the distance
With music in my ears.

I went back to see the gypsy,
It was nearly early dawn.
The gypsy's door was open wide
But the gypsy was gone,
And that pretty dancing girl,
She could not be found.
So I watched that sun come rising
From that little Minnesota town.


Copyright © 1970 Big Sky Music
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:55 PM
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12. you're tops, ZW
:loveya:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:57 PM
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13. Back at ya, Cheryl!
:loveya: :donut:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:11 PM
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19. Ah, ya both are...
:grouphug:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:06 PM
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16. you know what you could do?
put these on youtube...you could just put up Elvis pics, like a photo montage, for the video, and post the links here...just a thought. I don't know if you have a way to upload it on there. I like "I can help" that was really nice, a great song.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:13 PM
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21. Thanks!
That's not a bad idea, and I think I might give youtube a try when I have a little more time to play around and do a decent job...I have done a fair bit of digital video editing before and I love that kind of stuff. :D

:headbang:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:58 PM
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27. "Cos' every minute, every hour you'll be shaken....
....By the strength and mighty power....of my love...."
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:31 PM
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29. Crush it...kick it...you can never win...
No, baby, you can't...

Wait a minute. I can't say that. :D
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 10:39 AM
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30. Even if you did.....
..."..I'll make you give in..."
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 05:31 PM
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31. I surrender
:D
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