Jesus Goddamn Christ - why is there so much shitty awful animation now?

[Rabrrrrrr]

Fuckin' Christ - I'm watching "Drawn Together" on Comedy Central, and it's fucking awful -- the animation and art is pure shit; pure, unadulterated, uncreative, uninspired shit. The writing is about as funny as Auschwitz and about as original as Ron Howard's cinematography.

It's exactly like 400 other new animated series, like that dumbass one with the french fries and the milkshake, and so many other awful, intolerable, ignorant hip and trendy shitfucking shows designed for adolescent boys who learned at the teet of uncreative and asshole-based video games.

Jesus Christ.

Animation is a sacred art, in my opinion, and there are far too many new "animators" who have debased it to an extent that I'm sure God himself is brewing up some kind of cataclysmic retribution for it.

[Richard Steele]

1. Now I KNOW you didn't just diss "Aqua Teen Hunger Force"...

...by comparing it's subtle existentialist brilliance
to that excrable DrawnTogether crapfest!

[LeftyMom]

2. You didn't just say something bad about ATHF?

::declares Fatwa on Rabrrrrr::

[ChoralScholar]

3. ATHF is awesome

and very creative, methinks.

[begin_within]

4. Why? Computers!

[sakabatou]

5. This is why I generally don't like American animation

[GirlinContempt]

6. I believe it's teat

:P

[CanuckAmok]

7. Four and a half words: Rocky & Bullwinkle, Roger Ramjet.

ATHF is ultra-low budget. The entertainment is in the writing. Sort of like Roger Ramjet, which was fucking crap animation but endlessly hilarious. Same with Rocky and Bullwinkle.

But, yeah, I agree with you. I particularly don't get the mania over "Anime". Most Japanese animation I've seen is not very good, and borrows cost-cutting techniques from the god-awful Spiderman cartoon. Akira was good, though.

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. But Rocky and Bullwinkle were written extraordinarily well!

And the animation fit the style of humor. Roger Ramjet was well done; Johnny Quest was cheap animation, but the writing was great.

I don't see any humor, or much of any value, in Aqua Teen Hunger Force. And c ertainly not in that show I was watching last night. And, sadly, in a lot of new animated series.

Anime is real hit and miss - Miyazaki is brilliant (though I suppose not technically anime), Akira was wonderful, and quite a few others were very well done; the vast majority of the half-hour TV shows, though, are garbage. Drangonball Z? What a piece of shit. Most of them are shittily animated and written even worse.

[Zomby Woof]

9. Animation went downhill

When Roger Waters left Pink Floyd.














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[Deja Q]

10. Which company made it? Did you look for the country of origin?

That might explain something... (namely as the people who scribbled the cels didn't want to put in any money or care...)

[sendero]

11. Because ..

.. a lot of it is done with computers now, and done cheaply at that. Some of today's cartoons look little if any better than a Flash animation, and as far as I can tell are using basically the same technology.

[Cruzan]

12. Sorry, I never noticed

This is on TV, right?

[Ratty]

13. Oh it's a hell of a lot better than it was a few years ago

There were NO new characters, shows and concepts created. Everything was "baby" versions of existing characters and shows: Muppet Babies, Scooby Doo Babies, or they just decided to resurrect old shows and characters and update them to give them, Yo!, shades, attitude and a skateboard. For awhile it was a real wasteland with absolutely nothing new or different or risky.

I've noticed the last couple of years there are TONS of new shows and characters, fresh ideas, never been done. Spongebob Square pants? WTF!? Mmmm, maybe some of them were designed for adolescent boys--I think some of the latest crop of cartoons are wonderful, personally--but give me that over the recycled, stale, risk-free pablum of the past decade.

[citizen snips]

14. really?

I thought the first season of drawn together was hilarious.

[TroubleMan]

15. There are a few "Drawn Together" episodes that are brilliant.

There are a few that are just plain crap. You probably caught one of the really crappy ones. Also, on some of the Drawn Together episodes, you won't get it if you don't know what they are referencing (like the fundie cucumber).

[jmm]

16. I have both those shows on DVD

And no, I'm not an ignorant hip and trendy adolescent boy who learned at the teet of uncreative and asshole-based video games.

Drawn Together can be more hit-or-miss but both are great not because of the animation but rather the writing.