Do you remember the movie "A Clockwork Orange?"

[Joe Fields]

Remember how Malcolm McDowell was "conditioned" to get violently ill, whenever he heard Beethovan? I swear I'm getting to that point whenever I see George Bush on television.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. the voice.

For me, it's the voice. I cannot stand his voice. Blech.

[sundog]

2. i don't ever hear that Beethovan tune the same after watching that movie

[Richardo]

4. The "Odd to Joy" wasn't it?

[JVS]

3. I've been unable to watch him since the 2002 SOTU

It's like looking at the sun. I can glance for a few seconds but not look directly or for a long time

[RedCloud]

5. that music during the acts of sadism...

how that played out on counterculture news reports years later...

[Starbucks Anarchist]

6. You mean like this?

[hfojvt]

7. except he was not conditioned to get violently ill to Beethoven

that was a side effect as they conditioned him to getting violently ill as a response to violent thoughts, but they were playing Beethoven while they did it.

[Joe Fields]

8. Yes, of course you are correct. I made a little leap there.