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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:30 PM
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Computer disaster? WHAT HAVe I DONE???????
We bought my mom a new used pc Pentium III 750 384 Mb ram WIN XP HOME but no wireless adapter so we put in the Netgear from the old, deadish computer. Refused to boot. Refused to so much as beep. Pulled out the card. Happy pc again. Uninstalled the Netgear software.

Bought a Linksys card with the same specs as the Netgear. Booted fine. Refused to recognize the card. Pulled the card out and installed it in another slot. DID SOMETHING STUPID.

I'd forgotten to screw on the antenna thingy. So I tried to do it while the pc was booting. Got SPARKS.

PC booted as far as the selection of users, then started spontaneously rebooting over and over and over and over. Wouldn't shut down. Until I went in the back and pushed the on/off switch that's used for transporting.

Pulled out the card. Rebooted. PC still spontaneously rebooting over and over and over and over but only going to the dos black and white Windows did not shut down normally and then rebooting.

WHAT HAVE I DONE? HOW DO I FIX IT? AM I DOOMED TO BE AN IDIOT FOREVER??????
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:51 PM
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1. Nah, not forever. One day you might wise up and go Mac.
:hide:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:54 PM
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3. want my iPod?
Its dead. Wonderful Apple products.

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:05 PM
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4. Mine is old and it still works great.
Of course, if you got Apple Care on it, they would have given you a brand new iPod, if they couldn't fix it. Also, have you tried resetting the iPod? That seems to revive "dead" iPods sometimes.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:19 PM
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16. how do you reset them?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:25 PM
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17. Here's the Apple iPod support page...
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 06:26 PM by haruka3_2000
http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/

Resetting it won't erase your music either. Finally, you may want to try restoring it, which will erase the music, but hopefully will result in a working iPod.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 07:44 PM
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21. thanks, reseting it didnt work
:(
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:54 PM
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2. It's a good sign that you get something on the screen
Try to boot from the Windows CD, or get into SAFE MODE from the DOS menu.

I fried a hard drive being stupid like that once.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:28 PM
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5. Oh, dear god, we tossed the other pc because the HD died.
And we didn't want to deal with it.

Oh, crap, crap, crap. Is that what I did????
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:08 PM
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12. Well, it's probably not the HD
My educated guess is that it's the power supply.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:33 PM
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6. Say whaaa?
You tried to screw on the antenna and got sparks? That's crazy. Did you not have the card screwed down and jostle it out of the slot or what?

Screwing the anntena on while "hot" should not be a problem, if the card was mechanically secured.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:34 PM
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7. It was screwed in. I think it was seated correctly.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:46 PM
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8. I can't...
... figure out why that would cause an arcing. But it did, so - probably the news is not good.

If you are in a reboot cycle, there is a good chance that hardware was damaged - perhaps something on the motherboard.

You can go into safe mode, see where it's dying and maybe work backward - my experience with this sort of problem suggests happy endings to be unlikely.

Sorry.
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:57 PM
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9. As much as I loathe Dell
especially their ultra low end consumer products, I still think that one of their $249 celery machines would be a better deal than ANY used computer.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:10 PM
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13. $80 for a PIII 750 with dvd rom and 384 MB ram plus
the legal disk for Windows XP Home and a new Logitech keyboard and mouse?
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:15 PM
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14. Yes, because you'd have a warranty instead of a big paperweight
Seriously, take out the power supply and go to your local PC shop. They are like $25 tops. It's worth a shot.

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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:27 PM
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18. Life's too short for cheap power supplies.
A bad or underpowered power supply can potentially break other parts of your computer. No $25 PSU can possibly be worthwhile.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:51 PM
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19. And how would it be the power supply when it power on and beeps?
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:29 AM
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24. Dunno. I'm not the one who suggested it.
I'm just saying that a $25 PSU is a bad idea.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:40 AM
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25. Yeah, you got screwed.
There's no better way to say that. I wouldn't pay more than $20 for that computer.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:58 PM
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10. Sounds like you got a bum computer to me.
Is there any kind of guarantee.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:07 PM
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11. Craigslist. It worked PERFECTLY.
I am beside myself. I've had computer disasters but never anything like this.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:18 PM
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15. Sparks means high voltage. Damage is inevitable
See if you can boot off a floppy, if yes, you still have a mother board. If not, the beast is fried. Good luck.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 07:11 PM
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20. Pentium III running XP? Yikes!
Not a good idea. Way underpowered for that pig of an OS. You'll be lucky if that rig runs Win2K adequately.

For WinXP you need Pentium 4, and a minimum of 512MB.

Don't know if the sparky thingie did any permanent damage, but the problem with the adapters sounds like you have a resource conflict, which is typical for older PCs.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:31 PM
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22. I've been very weepy lately.
Are you trying to destroy me?

My uncle's old warhorse has been running xp for years. YEARS. It's fine. Fine.

Meanwhile, I created a catastrophe while trying to save money.



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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:35 AM
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23. Let's look at it from the point of view of status
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 05:43 AM by Xipe Totec
What do we have that works?

- Gene Krantz (Apollo 13 mission controller)


You said the system beeps and powers up. What else works?

Does it complete POST?

Can you reach the BIOS screen?

Can you boot to DOS from a floppy?

If you can boot to floppy then the problem is not the hardware, it is the OS.

You said you're installing a wireless network card. Is the network secure? is it firewalled?

If the XP version on the system was out of date wrt to security patches, it might have gotten hit by a virus over the wi-fi. That would mean the network card actually worked.







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