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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 09:30 PM
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So I went to a wedding in my home town today...
Grand Rapids, Michigan....I haven't been in this town for more than an hour in almost ten years.

And I'm sitting in the Imperial Ballroom of the (SCAmway)Pantlind Hotel wondering what I'm doing here. Its a slow ride into nowhere when you're invited to a wedding as an honorary guest of the bride...but you don't know a damn soul at the party except her.

It's a beautiful room but I wouldn't exactly call it imperial. Sort of an early industrial age cross between wealthy lumber baron motif and the usual pedestrian Americana architecture. The ceiling is nice and you would like the marble fireplace. I'm too ignorant to know what kind of marble it is.

Yet in the midst of the various hues of polyester and silk, the young, fat cheeked children who make the noises no one wants...there is really a make believe museum quality to this DeVos/VanAndel world. The hotel contains scores of paintings and drawings, including a portrait studio (DeJonge) that exhibits portraits of Gingrich, Scalia, Chris Wallace, DeVos and his oh so political wife, Betsy. Gerald Ford look like a junior senator even tho'we all know he is in his 90's now. Needless to say, there were no paintings of the civil rights era or of the periods when women were seeking their rights. In place of suffrage, there is the space shuttle with Christa McAuliffe.

Its easy to grab a glass of wine when you're unknown and wander through what is clearly meant to display a reality of republican industriousness to envy or emulate. Imagine...an entire hotel to host the visual supports needed to sustain an ideology that creates a pictorial history to rival the VanAndel museum down the street.

I know the pretty, young bride was hoping for a style statement by having the wedding and reception in this domain. That's ok, its her day, I tell myself. Yet I find myself wondering, how many of these people really give a crap about this hotel and its identical salads in identical bowls paraded out by people in identical uniforms to guests who look, identical? How many of them are bored? How many wish they could have gone instead to a Polish wedding from the 60's in which mashed potatoes and canned green beans were passed among guests down 30 ft. tables and the brother of the groom always picked the first fight of the evening?

There are three things I always tell my husband you can count on at a wedding. One is the obligatory awful pseudo opera singer who can barely squawk through a proper song or hymn. Another is the one rotten relative that nobody really wants in the room and somebody always hopes they can tell off. The third is the sexily underdressed female who does a parody of herself on the dance floor.
I left before the last one but I spotted her hammering down the open bar booze in preparation for her performance.

I don't know if you're like me but I always feel like I have to measure the bride and groom for staying power at a marriage. How long will they last? Do they really seem passionate about one another? If they couldn't do this thing, this marriage, would they like, die, or something? Sadly, for me, these two fell short and I expect they will be dividing up my gift of martini glasses before two years are out. I hope I'm wrong for their sake.

For those of you who are immigration enthusiasts you'll be happy to know that most of the wait staff were Hispanic. Little did I know that I would rely on my high school Spanish to request after dinner coffee...three times. To my chagrin, no one else seemed to notice. My conversation with a gentleman who had retired from GM was interesting though. He was impressed that there was a brand new Marriott being built across the street. He said that cranes were never seen on the other side of the state and that they were hurting.

I think the saying, 'You can't go home again', is both true and false. You can go home again...you just can't expect to be as blind or ignorant of the facts as you once were. Unless you never leave in the first place. Grand Rapids was a town that at one time had a huge and varied ethnic population. The lower West side was known for having a Polish street here, the Lithuanians live here and the Irish over there. Yet every day of every year, the DeVos/VanAndel reality presents a wholly singular view of this city.

It isn't the immigrants who never assimilated, its the likes of the DeVos family who never quite got it. It's these same people who never understood that their view of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness SHOULD include a sweaty polka band now and then.

Oh and by the way...it cost me $11.75 to park for 2 1/2 hours of indoctrination and so/so food.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:21 PM
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1. I don't think I've ever been to a wedding, other than mine, and that was
a simple affair in a living room. Interesting description though.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:27 AM
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4. I wonder if people feel more 'ghosts' at weddings or funerals
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:41 PM
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2. It wasn't a wedding I went home for last January.
It was a breakfast for my aunt's 75th birthday. Her actual birthday is the same day as my hubby's. It was myself, my sister and our spouses, my cousins with their spouses, kids and for some, grandkids. There are times whether I wonder if I am even a part of the family. I hear the way some of my relatives speak about the Latinos in the area. Maybe my father did more of a favor for me by sending me to live in Reading for my junior and senior years of high school. My decision to join the Navy changed my perspective of home (Berks and Schuylkill counties) than I ever realized.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:26 AM
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3. Truly, there are times when one can feel like a
stranger in a strange land when it comes to families or one's home town. It's times like that that I realize the gifts of authors who dare to try to describe the cognitive carnage we witness.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:14 PM
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5. I don't understand the coffee part
"to my chagrin"

huh? I think you're either saying something good about yourself (proud that you can speak spanish but sad nobody noticed) or sarcastically noting that Hispanics didn't bring you coffee when you asked for it ... like that's an immigration issue in some way?

I don't know, anything I can come up with for that part didn't make sense to me.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:16 PM
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6. Meaning...
"For those of you who are immigration enthusiasts you'll be happy to know that most of the wait staff were Hispanic. Little did I know that I would rely on my high school Spanish to request after dinner coffee...three times. To my chagrin, no one else seemed to notice."

The hotel wait staff was divided between those who filled water, coffee, took away plates and those who delivered the food. I saw no reason to include that detail as my point was that the hotel is clearly hiring personnel who are non english speaking and likely immigrants. For myself, I don't care who they hire. In view of the republican's schizophrenic response to this issue I found it interesting. No one else at my table seemed to notice.

If you want to cast unnecessary aspersions on what I have written, be my guest. You are making a lot of work for yourself for very little. To barely speak a little remembered spainish hardly strikes me as a bid for admiration.

As to sarcasm that any waitstaff of any ethnic group did not bring me coffee...I am not the elitist, dear,...rather,I was writing about them. A distinction that would appear to be over your head.
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RiffRandell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:33 PM
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7. Jesus Christ.
I believe the poster you are responding to was just asking because they truly didn't get what you were saying.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:38 PM
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8. The you didn't read the poster's entire response..and no,
I am not Jesus Christ either...
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:42 PM
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15. Honestly, I just didn't get it
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 09:43 PM by lwfern
I was trying to figure out if you were saying that you liked or didn't like that they were hispanic and you got to use some old language skills.
I was trying to figure out what wasn't noticed - your request for coffee (ignored by the waiters initially, and that fact was then ignored by the other guests) or that you spoke spanish (ignored by the other guests).

Chagrin implies some emotional response, not just observed facts, and I didn't get what the chagrin was about. That's not an insult or aspersions (except for possibly about some ambiguous writing style in those sentences). It's confusion.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:56 PM
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16. Fair enough. Let's try again, to express chagrin means
to feel or experience being disconcerted. So imagine you're in this billionaire's hotel and he's hot for the governership. Big, rich, opulent hotel. Millions and millions of dollars in big time TV ad's.

And he hires poor non english speaking people who he probably pays a pittance to....

That's my first feeling of chagrin...the second feeling of chagrin was the fact that no one so much as noticed these details in the environment.

That's what I was trying to express. Sorry for the snarkiness....
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:06 PM
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17. Well, that explains the confusion
I've only seen chagrin used to express embarrassment at one's own failings or disappointment at one's own circumstances, not general disconcertedness - with that in my head I couldn't make sense of it in this context.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:13 PM
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18. Chagrin refers to those feelings as well
It's etiology is french.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:41 PM
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9. Hey..good writing.
Just wanted to say that.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:48 PM
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11. Thanks....mostly musing....
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:47 PM
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10. Going back to my hometown is beyond sad
it's in central Illinois and the vibrant community I grew up in is now a depressed area. My old high school has been steadily losing enrollment. The family farms are gone. It's all impersonal agri-business. The owners are miles away and the planting and harvesting are left to teams of contractors. And my family and former classmates disappoint me. I know that sounds horrible. But I feel so displaced and off balance when I'm back there. I just live a very different life now. I'm active in liberal politics. I read constantly. I travel with my immediate family and friends. It's not just that I live in a city and have a wider frame of reference. It's mostly that the dwindling of fortunes seems to have made the people in my hometown mean. They're distrustful of other people. They speak venom about foreigners. And the gossip about their neighbors is relentless.
I get depressed during every visit.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:55 PM
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12. Actually I experienced the same emotions...
Naturally I didn't try to include all my impressions or feelings during this wedding/reception. I kept thinking of people I knew during both the service and the party. I too felt displaced and I know it has much to do with the things I've been doing and reading in the last four years. The impersonal setting confirmed for me that I was on the right track and that despite all the people I know who are get along/go along...I am growing, they are stuck.

Our country is losing its vitality to the likes of the cream of wheat elitist types who want to shove their economic viewpoint down our throats. You're right, people are biting their fingernails and turning spiteful.

It's sad to see the effects. I just hope the DeVos's don't make the governor's mansion their home.

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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:24 PM
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13. how very poignant, the meanderings of our minds
thanks for letting me wander with you:hi:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:35 PM
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14. Nice to have company...
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:12 PM
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19. Pardon my ignorance, but who are DeVos, VanAndel?
Rich powerful Republicans in Michigan? I know nothing of Michigan politics/culture.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:44 AM
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20. The founders of Amway...
...hence the "SCAMway" reference in the OP. Cleaning products company/neo-pyramid scheme, with heavy right wing (and slightly less heavy fundie) emphasis. Son (?) of one of the founders is the Repug candidate for governor, and may well succeed in ousting the Democratic incumbent. :-(

DISCLAIMER: I was actually an Amway salesman, or whatever they call it, for a few months in 1978. There were no decent jobs in the area, and I was looking for something my (now ex-)wife and I could do together in our spare time. Spent a lot on demo supplies, never made much out of it. We finally quit altogether after management sent a newsletter calling on all Amway members to write to Congress, demanding that they cut off all funding to PBS for having run an economics series by that "anti-American socialist" John Kenneth Galbraith. :eyes:

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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:30 PM
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22. Thanks. I've definitely heard of Amway. though I don't know
much about it. I always hear disparaging remarks about it, and I've gotten the impression it's some sort of pyramid scheme. Didn't know the repug angle, but I'm not surprised.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:33 AM
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29. Pyramid, neo-republicanism and religious right all the way
But if you become one of their own and go to their big sale jamborees, you can drink yourself silly (on your own money of course cuz' you pay to be there) and you're guaranteed of going to bed with anybody else's wife you want. Its your basic behind closed doors orgy.

I have clients who participated in the er...festivities
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:31 PM
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30. Now why doesn't that surprise me!
Neo-republican/religious right always operate in the manner of 'do as I say and not as I do.' And they tend to be into the weird sexual practices they accuse others of.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:48 PM
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31. They are as sick as their secrets---with a WHOLE lot of money to boot!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:59 AM
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21. Here is a brief article,
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:33 PM
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23. Thanks. Interesting article.
I'd never heard that family name before; maybe they're not as well known outside Michigan? Wasn't there another name you mentioned as well?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:22 AM
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24. VanAndel
Richard DeVos Sr. and Jay Van Andel created (SCAM)way. The company was built on a pyramid and the overpriced and much hyped products were primarily household, and over the counter goods. They "reorganized" the multinational in the early 90's and called it Alticor. Other companies also split off from the original SCAMway.

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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:46 AM
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26. Isn't Amway now known as Quixtar?
My brother tried to get me and my sister to sign up a few years ago. I did some research online and discovered a website dedicated to disgruntled ex-Quixtar representatives. My sister and I declined his offer to sign up. Haven't heard from him since.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:28 AM
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27. Quixtar is one of the companies they created after the 90's reorganization
Frankly, no one makes any money off the crap that SCAMway peddles. You only make money when you get other people, a lot of people, to sign on under you. Hence, your brother's interest...

There are countless other business enterprises where for time and investment, you're better off. I've little doubt that eventually your brother will find that out too. SCAMway is rigorous about not letting people know about their crappy business model. Plus, when you sign on and go to their sale jamborees, assuming you're invited b/c you sold enough people on their baloney, you'll (a. pay to be there and (b. be treated to all the religious right, neo-republicanism you want.

And, no, I have never sold SCAMway. Wouldn't touch the stuff.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:28 AM
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25. Thanks...I enjoyed reading that. NT
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:29 AM
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28. I enjoyed that you enjoyed it. :)
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:15 PM
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32. I've got a theory that the more you spend on the wedding...
the shorter the marriage will last.

I haven't been wrong in more than 20+ years of observing weddings but I'm sure there are exceptions out there.

It seems that those who spend thousands and thousands of dollars on that "dream day" just aren't cut out for the grueling (and sometimes brutal) slog of daily wedded bliss. It takes work to make that relationship sing - not money.

(so proclaims riderinthestorm who got married in her mom's backyard with a few friends and family in attendance and who is 1 week away from her 20th anniversary!)
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:36 PM
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33. My Dear MichiganVote, please post this in GD
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 10:39 PM by never cry wolf
This is a wonderful essay with great insight. It is also seriously relative and IMHO should be on the greeatest page...

Thank you for sharing...in
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