Sexual intercourse is not a recreational activity.

[MissB]

*Technically NOT a sex thread, Mods.*

That was the last line in a LTTE this morning, arguing for parental notification of a minor's abortion.

http://www.oregonlive.com/letters/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/115471594012560.xml&coll=7

Huh. I didn't realize people thought like that.

[Vidar]

1. Maybe they will move it to GD instead of locking it. LOL

[Xipe Totec]

5. A fate worse than death!

:scared:

[Vidar]

26. LOL

[Haole Girl]

2. I guess they are saying it is solely for procreation?

By the way, IBTL!

[hfojvt]

33. what they are saying

is that it should involve deeper mutual emotions than the average game of tennis.

[LeftyMom]

3. Teenagers treat it that way, and no amount of stomping her foot and

demanding that they stop will change that. And she knows it. The idea is not to stop abortions, it's to control sex and shame women by making them tell controling authorities of thier sins, or better yet to punish them by making them bear children that respectable people can then buy on the adoption market.

[hfojvt]

32. not all teenagers treat it that way

should more of them be encouraged to do so?

[Deja Q]

4. It's not recreational?!

But playing Grand Theft Auto where killing people who use sexual intercourse as recreation is... mmm, okay... :D

(I don't know if that person is for or against violent video games; but America has more of a tolerance for vain violence than it does sexuality.)

[Burma Jones]

6. I think the statement probably refers to the authors' enjoyment

of the said activity.

I suppose "It's hard work...."

[xchrom]

7. hmm -- well -- you live and learn.

and here all i thought the sex i was having WAS recreational.

[Robb]

8. Teaches Jeebus classes

Roman Catholic. Google is terrifying, sometimes.

[MissB]

12. Really?

Oh My. I hadn't taken that step yet.

*off to Google*

[MissB]

13. Holy Shit.

:rofl:

[RetroLounge]

9. I'm sure sex with her isn't...

yikes...

RL

[thefool_wa]

24. Awwww, SNAP!

This is the first I have heard of "it" not being recreational.

"It" happens to be my favorite form of recreation. Married, monogomous recreation, but recreation all the same.


Besides, there is a fine line between PROcreation and REcreation (a couple of letters if I am not mistaken).

[sarge43]

10. Wow, if Maggie is married, her husband must be a happy camper.

[seaglass]

11. I don't think it is either. Now wait a minute, I haven't read the

letter but I would agree with that statement.

Having sex != bowling.

[deutsey]

14. The hell it isn't...my wife and I have three kids and she's had a

hysterectomy (sp?), so all we have now is recreational sex and it's fucking great!

:evilgrin:

[hfojvt]

34. is there no love involved?

If it was a recreational activity then you could have sex with anyone the same way you can play racquetball with anyone. If you restrict your amorous activities to your wife, then you are treating it as something more than a recreational activity.

[deutsey]

37. I don't see where "love" and "recreation" are mutually exclusive

Never occurred to me, I guess, because it's not an issue in my situation.

People love to play with words, I guess. I could make a crass sexual joke here, but I'll refrain.

[hfojvt]

39. Play with words?

Tanj I hear that alot. Either you understand the meaning or you do not. Nobody said anything about love and recreation being mutually exclusive. However, everyone on this thread seems to think it is about procreation vs. recreation. To me it is not. Somebody who IMs me on Yahoo messenger looking to get together for sex with a complete stranger is treating sex as recreation. Many people see it as something more than just another sport, even if they also enjoy it alot. To call it recreation or to treat it as recreation is to debase it.

People seem to love using words to mock other's POV. What R words 4?

[asthmaticeog]

15. Shit, I must be doing it wrong.

:cry:

[Crabby Appleton]

16. Sexual intercourse is not a recreational activity?

maybe you're not doing it right.

[idgiehkt]

17. um, if someone is seeking an abortion, that means it was just for fun.

stoopid people.

[WindRavenX]

18. well, not exactly...

Abortion is usually the result of a failure; most people don't have sex and say "oo...time for an abortion-- JUST FOR FUN! LOL!!!111!!"

[idgiehkt]

19. the sex was just for fun....not the abortion is just for fun n/t

[WindRavenX]

20. still...

...many people in commited relationships don't have sex *just* for fun--it is a sign of love. I mean, my SO of 1+ year call it making love...and that's how we view it...

But yeah, it's still fun :evilgrin:

[miss_american_pie]

21. I must be doing it wrong

Because I'm sure not trying to get pregnant again. :shrug:

[Ellen Forradalom]

22. That sounds like something out of Saturday Night Live

Sounds like one of Mary Catherine Gallagher's teachers.

[ismnotwasm]

23. At my age it sure as hell is

One of my favorites in fact. And I have maybe 5-10 years left of possible pregnancy.

This kind of attitude is one of the reasons I'm all for comprehensive sex education, not just the plumbing, but sexual dynamics between females and males as well as birth control options for teenagers.

[Guava Jelly]

25. sex should only be performed in pitch black darkness

clutchen a bible while crying..
so who's up for that? :rofl:

[Rabrrrrrr]

27. Yes, because parents have the right to know if they should beat the hell

out of their daughters, or sometimes even kill them.

Keeping the abortions quiet will sadly lead to many teenage girls who get pregnant who don't get a proper beatdown from their fathers, and it might also lead to too many counts of incest being reported, and we all know how bad that would be.

[benny05]

28. I'm confused about the title of this thread

If the purpose is the stupid federal abortion law which is being voted in. I agree it is stupid, but I want to present another point here.

From what I hear about meet-up dates (some of which are terrible, and in my time, I had a potential negative experience when I was 19 and workin' at a bar for change while I went to college--and different from meet ups here in many respects),some millennials have said they don't mind a meet-up for sex, but not wishin' more.

We shouldn't condemn those who want to have sex outside of marriage; many of us have done it--perhaps more than once or twice.

I was pressured to have sex while going out with a person I met when working at a bar, but avoided it with diplomacy, because I knew I wasn't ready for sex when offered and cornered, and waited some more time before having my first experience. I was fortunate because it was close to being a date rape experience, but I handled it well.

But recreational sex was prominent then and still is, I think.

[JackDragna]

29. Once again, proving the age-old adage..

..that if something is fun, someone out there hates it for no other reason than it's fun.

[regnaD kciN]

30. Strictly speaking, it IS...

It's the way the human race has been re-creating itself, generation upon generation, for as long as the human race has existed.

[NMMNG]

31. Where have you been?

There are plenty of fundies who believe sex is solely for procreation and not for pleasure. And there are many who think parental notification is crucial even if that leads to the teen being verbally/physically abused or even thrown out into the streets. Apparently the parents' right to know trumps the mental/physical health and safety of the teen.

[regnaD kciN]

35. I don't think so...

There are plenty of fundies who believe sex is solely for procreation and not for pleasure.

There are some extremely traditionalist Roman Catholics -- a tiny percentage of Roman Catholics as a whole -- that believe that (i.e. not only that birth control is wrong, but that any sex act not engaged in for the specific intended purpose of procreation is sinful), but not fundamentalist Protestants. In fact, they will generally hold that up as an example of how screwed-up the "Papists" are. I mean, even Religious Right uber-fundy Tim LaHaye once wrote a sex guide, and you'll find lots of advice books in "Christian" bookstores for married couples that assume sex will be for enjoyment rather than conception the vast majority of the time. Of course, you'll find that fundamentalists insist that sex can only be allowed within heterosexual marriage. And some might argue that divorce and remarriage is also forbidden. But, within the boundaries of a valid (to them) marriage, sex is supposed to be important not only for bringing children into the world, but for creating a deeper bond between the husband and wife though sharing in intimate pleasure.

[NMMNG]

36. I do think so

Fundamentalist Christian Republican believes sex exists solely for procreation. And so fundy husband administers a quick, eight-to-ten thrust rogering of fundy wife once a month with a technique that's minimal on pleasure, but maximal on efficiency. For survey purposes, husband and wife are probably "satisfied" with the sex if it results in conception.

http://www.theagitator.com/archives/014976.php






For christian fundamentalists, sex is fundamentally evil. Procreation is the only valid excuse for having sex, so any sex that does not lead to procreation is evil. That is why religious "pro-lifers" not only oppose abortion, but also contraception and any kind of sex that does not lead to procreation. It is not about protecting life, and it has never been. It is only about forcing puritan anti-sex values on society.

http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/rright1.html




By contrast, the Fundamentalist's idea of "traditional family values" is a father, a non-working mother, and children living for God and church, believing the Bible is infallible revealed truth, tolerating sex only for procreation, and pitying and punishing those poor damned souls who disagree with them.

http://www.edwinkagin.com/columns/traditional-family.htm




Furthermore, to many fundamentalists, any sexual conduct not for the purpose of procreation is "perverted." So fundamentalists not only reject artificial contraceptives, but often, natural family planning as well.

http://www.swans.com/library/art9/kblakr02.html




Booty calls - casual sex for kicks, no commitment - is sick, disgusting, immoral. Sex should only occur within the sanctity of a Christian marriage and then only for procreation. Life is not meant to be full of heedless pleasure, but hard work, piety and sacrifice. Sinners better look out, they are in for a warm time come judgement day.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,19907712-5006007,00.html

[Fleshdancer]

38. it is if you do it right

;)