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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:08 PM
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Does Pablo Escobar offend you?
:popcorn:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:10 PM
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1. Who is he?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:11 PM
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2. The cocaine ruler of Colombia.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:11 PM
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3. yes
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:12 PM
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4. Killing Pablo is a great book.
Reveals US Sources & Methods, Weaknesses, July 25, 2001
Reviewer: Robert D. Steele (Oakton, VA United States) - See all my reviews


I remember being shocked when a book published by a former prisoner of war revealed all of the CIA's sources and methods for secret writing--one reason terrorists and others make photo-copies of incoming and outgoing correspondence these days....

This book provides an excellent overview of sensitive sources and methods used by the U.S. military to intercept and locate electronic transmissions. It specifically "blows" a cover company, two specific kinds of aircraft, and several U.S. Special Operations Forces standard operating procedures. I suspect that NSA and the CIA Centers dealing with terrorism and with crime and narcotics are having the same difficulties recovering from this book that NSA had when President Reagan inadvertently revealed in public that he was receiving transcripts of Politburo cell phone conversations made while in transit, from their car phones.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142000957/sr=8-1/qid=1154725850/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2603113-0924052?ie=UTF8
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:15 PM
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6. Cool. I'll have to check it out.
Cocaine: an Unauthorized Biography is a good book, too. It does a pretty good job of telling the interesting history of cocaine.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:36 PM
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7. Mark Bowden also wrote "Doctor Dealer"
About an affluent doctor/cocaine dealer in the go-go '80s.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:13 PM
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5. Not any more
:D
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:53 PM
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8. umm
how did the copycatting jump there?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:54 PM
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9. There was a Pablo Cruise copycat.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:57 PM
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10. that's even weirder eom
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:01 PM
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11. isn't he dead?
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 05:02 PM by idgiehkt
I've always loved this quote from George Jung (played by Johnny Depp in 'Blow')"

Pablo Escobar basically had a Neanderthal ideology. He didn't understand supply and demand, you know. It's that if you flood the country with cocaine the price is going to go down and also it's going to expose everyone and bring in more people at greater threat of being arrested or caught or what-have-you. Why not keep the operation small and the price high and run it that way? It would be highly efficient and people would be more or less safe from being arrested or what-have-you. Because the bigger the operation gets, the more people who come into it, the more you're at risk and the trust factor or what-have-you.What happened is Carlos had the concept where he wanted to flood the country with cocaine and destroy the political and moral structure of the United States. As he stated, cocaine was the atomic bomb and he was going to drop it on America. And so on one hand you have Carlos with his right wing fascist political ideology and I think Pablo--there came into being a hierarchy which I don't even believe he really had any concept of with regard to what was really going down. You know, as the operation grew, I mean, it involved the KGB, the CIA, and bankers and lawyers and doctors and money launderers and all these people came on board to ride on the ship. I think Pablo was still known as the head of the cartel but I think in that sense he really became a figurehead. It all grew beyond his comprehension.
link: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/interviews/jung.html

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:06 PM
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13. Yeah, he's dead.
I've also probably seen the movie "Blow" about 15 times.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:07 PM
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15. Still dead? I thought so.
;-)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:05 PM
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12. Is he breastfeeding or seen in a picture breastfeeding?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:06 PM
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14. Nope, and I've never seen a picture of him with a pit bull either.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:07 PM
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17. How does he feel about Jews? Mel Gibson? Hezbollah?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:08 PM
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19. Well, he's dead, so he probably doesn't maintain an opinion on them.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:10 PM
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20. Right, but what if he wasn't dead?
He'd probably have a very strong opinion.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:11 PM
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21. Depends on whether they did cocaine or not.
So he'd probably like Mel Gibson at least.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:07 PM
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16. he literally offended a good many more people than just me...
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:08 PM
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18. Yeah, killing someone is probably the most offensive thing you could do
to them.
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