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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:33 PM
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What's the deal with the heat index?
Is there a formula? Or is just something the weather people make up to sound more dramatic?

Here it's 95 with a heat index of 108. So even if it doesn't hit 100 today, all the evening newscasters will get to flash a big, scary three-digit number everywhere.

I smell a scam.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:36 PM
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1. It's a formula, based on humidity level.
I'm not sure of the specifics, but the higher the humidity the hotter it feels because it impedes a person's ability to perspire. Make sense?
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:49 PM
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4. ok, I can see that
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 01:50 PM by Bill McBlueState
It has something to do with how quickly moisture evaporates given the humidity and temperature. Thanks!
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:42 PM
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2. Heat index is the temperature the body feels
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 01:43 PM by mutley_r_us
when heat and humidity are combined.



http://www.crh.noaa.gov/pub/heat.php
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:48 PM
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3. ooh, a chart
Thanks!

Yeah, that's consistent with what I'm seeing here. 95 degrees, 55% humidity, heat index of 108.

I wonder how they come up with that. How hot it "feels" seems pretty subjective.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:57 PM
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5. There's a formula they use to figure it out,
but I'm not sure what it is.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:57 PM
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7. i found one on wikipedia
(see below)

what a mess!
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:02 PM
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10. Yeah, I wanted to be a meteorologist
but I can't handle those crazy equations. :silly:
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:57 PM
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6. holy crap, this is some formula!
As usual, Wikipedia is your friend...

Apparently the scale *is* based on subjective reports of how hot people feel under different combinations of temperature and humidity.

Here's a relatively simple rendition of the formula...



All the c's are numerical constants, T is the temperature, and R is the relative humidity.

And there's another one involving matrix multiplication. Oooh, matrix multiplication.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:58 PM
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8. It's not a scam.
I thought the same thing when I first heard about it. Thought it was some sort feel-good pschyobabble mumbo-jumbo about "feeling hotter." Turns out it's got a legitimate scientific basis. Wind-chill does too.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:01 PM
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9. lol
feel-good pschyobabble mumbo-jumbo about "feeling hotter."

Pretty much what I was thinking. But it looks like they've got the numbers to back it up.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:06 PM
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11. But do we need to know this?
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 02:07 PM by Oeditpus Rex
I do think it's a scam of sorts — not mathematical or physical, but a marketing scam designed to attract more viewers to the Weather Channel and the 5/6/10/11 o' clock news and Action Weather. :eyes:

Just tell me "It's gonna be fucking hot" or "It's gonna be fucking cold," okay, Mr. and Ms. Helmet-Hair Meteorologist?

Edit: Or "It's gonna fucking rain."
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:13 PM
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12. there might be a market for that
"The Misanthropic Weather Guy"

That would make a good segment after the last commercial break on the Daily Show.

"Don't forget your goddamn umbrellas, you idiots; it's gonna fucking rain. I will intentionally drive through puddles if I pass you on the street and you're running around like a drowned fucking Smurf."
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 02:15 PM
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13. it's useful to know for preventing heat stroke
90 degree weather with low humidty, grandma can take a walk. If her thermometer reads 90 but the humidty is 90%, she'll over heat much more quickly while taking that same walk. It's better to have an idea before you go out than to wait till you feel the first signs of heat exhaustion
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