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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:24 PM
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Chiropractors affirm they are quacks!
Chiropractic always has been quackery, and always will be.

Chiropractic leaders reaffirm subluxation beliefs.

The World Federation of Chiropractic, an association of chiropractic organizations in 85 countries, has adopted an "identity statement" based on a survey in which thousands of chiropractors were asked how the public should perceive them. http://www.wfc.org/Website/WFC/Library.nsf/CatalogByTitleLive/Aa-TF%20Final%20Rept-Am%2004-29-05/$FILE/Aa-TF%20Final%20Rept-Am%2004-29-05.pdf The survey report states that 65% of respondents said that the phrase "management of vertebral subluxation and its impact on general health" fits chiropractic "perfectly" or almost perfectly. http://www.wfc.org/website/WFC/Library.nsf/CatalogByTitleLive/WFC%20Report_January%2052005/$FILE/WFC%20Report_January%2052005.ppt

Chiropractic evolved from theories that spinal misalignments ("subluxations") are the cause or underlying cause of ill health and that detecting and correcting them will restore health. http://www.chirobase.org/01General/chirosub.html Many chiropractic leaders claim that "modern" chiropractic has discarded such beliefs, but the recent survey demonstrates that they remain widespread.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:25 PM
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1. Attack! Attack! Attack!
:smoke:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:24 PM
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2. I've been to a couple of chiropractors in my time. They have never
helped me, but they made my wallet lighter. :sarcasm:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:25 PM
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3. Subluxation. Is that the thing you can do until you go blind?
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:23 AM
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4. I've very recently had HUGE relief from a chiropractor.
I was having terrible back spasms w/a pinched nerve. Bad. Like, unable to walk upright bad.

After one visit, I was about half better by the time I left. After my second visit, I was all better by the time I left.

Chiropractors rock, if you ask me. A regular doctor would have just given me meds and bed rest, and weeks later I'd probably be in almost the same shape.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:25 AM
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5. My wife has had similiar experiences...
with her lower back, and the chiro sets her straight.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:39 AM
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7. I'm telling you, it was practically miraculous.
Nothing I did was even touching the pain. And I suffered for days, the same non-stop level of pain, before giving in to a chiro appointment.

My guy was very knowledgeable and attentive and got me out of pain FAST. I've been just fine ever since my second appointment. He never pressured me to come to multiple appointments.

No one can say anything to me about chiropractors. The good ones really, really help people.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:42 AM
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8. With my wife...
it was her lower lumbar's, that were effected about ten years ago, when she was in a car accident. Ever since that accident, she slips outta place sometimes, and the pain is real, no joke about that. I have gone through 6 bouts of her lumbars slipping.

I have become accustomed to relaxing/massaging her lower lumbars, to help put them back into place. She goes to the chiro about once every three months, sometimes even less than that, because i'm getting better at putting her back into alignment....
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:51 AM
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10. Well, you are clearly a total quack.
Keep your hands of people's lumbars!!!

:P
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:00 AM
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11. But but...
I like my wife's lumbars...:P but not when they are outta whack...:)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:35 AM
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6. I HATE jargon. Nothing is right for everyone.
every trade has jargon and allit is meant for is to confuse those who don't know the secret code.

Secret code is (shhh) "we don't know why it works".
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:47 AM
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9. I've had a lot of help from chiropractors
over the years.

I have met many, many quacks. Some were a minute adjustment, then come back in 2 days...ad infinitum. Never went back to them. Some did not listen to me when I said that what they had done hurt even more than when I came in the door. Again, if they don't care to look, or possibly correct it, they're gone.

I have also met many wonderful ones, who do not claim to cure any disease, but know for some people, it can help with pain managment.

My first experience was about at age 14 - I had troubles breathing, and I had always been very active. I wasn't able to breathe well, and thought possibly it was asthma (or an overly large chest). Went to him a few times, he cracked a few vertebra in my back, and I could breathe after that, and resume my normal level of activity. No asthma.

I've gotten significant relief from that from Fibromyalgia (along with acupuncture, too); and my balance has often been so off that I can't walk straight, or feel incredibly dizzy from my CFS. I was the one that discovered that certain adjustments in certain places actually help that dizziness/off balance - in fact, it eliminated it.

My (and most)provincial government health care partially subsidize chiropractic visits. If it was a sham, they wouldn't do it, doling out milions of a strained health care budget every year. (actually, we have enough money to pay for health care, the fucking Cons in this province just refuse to think health care, education and social services have much use. :grr:

With acupuncture, you can only get it (fully) paid for with a visit to a physiotherapist who also does acupuncture.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 03:21 AM
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12. I was in a car accident 14 years ago
and spent quite some time with a local chiropractor. The highly-touted rehabilitative doctor and PT group I was sent to (and who saw me weekly for over a year), never took one X-ray. I was in hellish pain during my time with them. Imagine my surprise when the X-rays the chiropractor insisted on before even examining me clearly showed torn ligaments in my neck.

The chiropractor made gentle adjustments, encouraged me to exercise and use heat and ice for pain and inflammation. I see a chiropractor perhaps twice a year now. I have much more range of motion than I ever achieved with the rehab doc and PT.

Julie
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 06:10 AM
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13. Careful now,
I happen to believe that Chiropractors are ahead of their time. So are Osteopaths IMHO.

It may be a bit in the future but I believe it will become well known that Chiropractic treatments done properly help. :D
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