The neighbor ladies & I busted the kid next door yesterday...

[elehhhhna]

His family's away at his sisters 'graduation' from Boot Camp. He doesn't live there anymore but was in the house yesterday. How do I know? Lots of teen-boy auto traffic, in & out of the house...yep, he's dealing again, from the front door. IDIOT. As I was walking 2 houses over for a "Candle party" (OY) ANOTHER (4th that day) car pulls up, kid goes to the door, passes money through, then turns around with a good ounce of pot in his hand.

So, the 2 other neighbor ladies went over & read him the riot act (and called his Momma).

How embarrassing is it to have your ass busted by the neighbor ladies?

[_testify_]

1. No cops?

[elehhhhna]

2. Yes if we see any activity again.

[arwalden]

3. Obviously He Hadn't Been Watching Showtime's "Weeds"...

... or he wouldn't have made such an obvious beginner's mistake.

[Kire]

5. I want to see that show.

[Kixel]

61. Has the new season started again?

I never remember to look!

[Blue_In_AK]

72. It starts sometime in August, the 14th I believe

I think that show is brilliant.

[bigwillq]

4. Minding your own business

might be a good place to start.

Sure, I would be a bit worried about drug dealers in my 'hood but my man use to have a place in the middle of Drug Dealing Central so I am use to it. It's none of my business what they do. I'm clean, that's all I am concerned about.

I can see your worry but I would be more worried about what the kid and his pals might do to all you snitches. To me, that's more of a concern than a kid selling pot.

[Kire]

6. yup

Neighbor ladies or not. I'm worried about you.

[elehhhhna]

8. Not to worry, we know this kid. If he were a threat the Sheriff

would have been called instead.

[elehhhhna]

7. His mama asked us to watch for him...his "friends" set her house on

fire 2 years ago (so we think, due to an odd series of coincidences.) He did this all last summer, and guess what? We have kids who play in this culdesac and we do not want a bunch of asshat teenagers buzzing around the hood buying pot and pills at all hours.

Don't tell me my own goddamned street is none of my business. Next time the Sherrif can handle it. They know him well.

[bigwillq]

11. You're second paragraph sums it up

"Next time the Sherrif can handle it."

That's their job. No need for nosy neighbors to play cops.

You're street's your buisness, you're right. But when it's something criminal (sadly selling pot and smoking it is criminal) it's time for the cops to be called if you think it's that serious of a situation.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

9. Hell, I wouldn't care about him dealin weed even if he wouldn't hurt me

I would have just waved so long as we wasn't being overly loud or obnoxious.

[Darth_Kitten]

32. Uh, no..........

call the police on the little #$#@$#@@. I'm sick and tired of all the petty crime initiated by spoiled little boys who are never called to task for anything.

[Floogeldy]

68. The guy is providing a public service.

Marijuana should be legal.

You remind me of Richard Nixon.

[Darth_Kitten]

69. Stoned people look too stupid.....

it's just not a nice look, dear.

me, Nixon? Oh, you jest.

[Floogeldy]

70. Have you ever smoked pot?

:)

[Darth_Kitten]

71. Nah, just watched my friends look really stupid....

smoking it. Just never appealed to me. ;)

I just stick to my Jack Daniels.

[Courtesy Flush]

37. Then you're part of the problem

Sitting back, watching your neighborhood go down, and not taking action to clean it up (not even a simple phone call to the cops! How hard could that be?), makes you complicit with the dealers.

[HEyHEY]

62. You had a hook-up next door and busted him?

Damn....

[Floogeldy]

10. As long as he is not hurting anybody, I would leave him alone.

I'm all about freedom, baby.

Marijuana should be legal.

:smoke:

[elehhhhna]

12. I agree entirely, that's why we told him to KNOCK IT OFF

at Mama's house rather than call the Sherriff. Which he knows we'll do if it happens again.

[Gormy Cuss]

13. From the circumstances you described I would have done the same.

He's being a knucklehead and there's no need to get him arrested if he is respectful enough to listen to the neighbor ladies.

Here's hoping that he's learned his lesson.

[Floogeldy]

14. But where are people going to get their weed?

Many, many Americans rely on guys like this to score their marijuana in the face of the oppressive, unconsitutional, illegal drug war.

Surely, the sheriff has more important matters to which to attend.

:smoke:

[_testify_]

17. I take issue with one part of this

He can sell weed all day. But he doesn't have to do it on the front porch with kids playing in the cul-del-sac. He can be a bit more discreet, don't you think?

[Floogeldy]

20. There is some speculation involved with your post.

The OP does not want a bunch of asshat teenagers buzzing around the hood buying pot and pills at all hours. Where did this allegation of pills being purchased come from? Where did this allegation of asshat teenagers buzzing around at all hours come from?

Of course, the evidence does not support that asshat teenagers are buzzing around the hood buying pot and pills at all hours. She saw one car (or one car a day for four days, or she went to four candle parties four days in a row - - - bad writing). Nor does it support any assertion that kids are playing in the culdesac at all hours.

I think somebody is a nosy controlling type of neighbor who doesn't have anything better to do than be the Captain of the Neighborhood Watch program. :)

The kid's mom asked that he be taken care of. I don't think that encompasses GETTING HIM THROWN IN JAIL.

:smoke:

[elehhhhna]

23. The pills sales got him busted by the cops last year...

after a bad deal got him beat up (several bones broken in his FACE...) and his house on fire the next day.

There were at LEAST 4 cars that day w/ teens, between 4 pm and 7 pm.

There's a BBall net in the culdesac and the kids DO play until 10.

He's NOT in jail, that's why we busted on him ourselves.

[elehhhhna]

22. Yes, that's the point.

[outofbounds]

25. No kidding

Take it inside or at least try to conceal it. Kids don't need the exposure to this.

[elehhhhna]

21. Not at someone's front door...

Too easy to be seen & busted.

[Floogeldy]

16. You do not agree entirely, at all.

Telling him to "knock it off" is not "leaving him alone."

:smoke:

[Arkansas Granny]

26. I share your feelings on marijuana. However, if he gets busted

by the sheriff for dealing at his mother's house, do you think he will be the only one who gets in trouble? Depending on what else might be in the house (such as guns, money or other drugs the kid might have there) the woman's property might be at risk of seizure under current drug law. If the OP knows this kid and knows the family, I think she did the right thing.

[Darth_Kitten]

33. Well, then the stupid idiot.......

shouldn't have been doing it so openly. I guess more than a few brain cells of his have been burned away........

[Kajsa]

15. You did the right thing.

!. He doesn't live there, anymore.
2. His mother asked you to be on the lookout for him,
sounds like she doesn't want him there when she's gone.
3. Not only is he there, he's dealing from their house.
( remember he doesn't live there, anymore)
4. It's your neighborhood and it's full of small children.
5. How do we know it's just pot? Never heard of a one product dealer
in my 55 years!
6. Dealers and their clients can pack( carry guns) on occasion.
No- I won't elaborate on 5 or 6. Take my word for it, or don't.

You did the right thing!

We need more people like you around who give a damn!!!

:hug:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

18. Most of the weed purveyors I know are one product dealers.

Perhaps they'll have some shrooms or something on occaision, but nothing hard.

[Blue Gardener]

27. I'm with you

More people should watch out for their neighbors. You can do that without being "Nosy." That's what Neighborhood Watch programs are all about.
As a side note, that kid was showing no respect for his mother, or the other residents in the neighborhood. Committing criminal acts in her home, whether you think they should be criminal or not, is totally disrespectful. It's her house, not his.

[elehhhhna]

29. We have a pact in the culdesac:

I'll rat your brats if you rat mine...to ME, preferably in private. In the last 2 years we have narc'
d to each other about the following:

Overnight BF vist to High School Sr.
15 y/o taking Mama's car
Above ref'd druggie boy's activity
12 y/o driving motorbike on the street
Teens driving like idiots (45mph in the hood)
14 y/o girl off the cuff suicide mention
10 y/o stealing toys
12 y/o WAY too high up a tree in the bayou
and many, many more!

We also rag on other when we see bad parenting.

This culdesac saw a famiy through the death of the Mother for 2 agonizing years: food cooked to order, housecleaning, shopping, teacher/school interaction, babysitting, wig shopping, chemo visits, orthodontist appts., daily backrubs, staying up all night, taking care of the kids/ dog/ husband/ patient, turning the patient on to & supplying some excellent pot, ...even handing her the meds to OD when she asked (she slept late & felt good the next day -- THAT was a tough night for many of us). We have a hell of a group here.
If I was religious I 'd say we're blessed.

Does that clarify it a bit? I guess what we have here is not the neighborhood norm, unfortunately.

[NoPasaran]

46. It sounds like you live in a real neighborhood!

The more places there are like your cul de sac, the better!

[Courtesy Flush]

42. Not one-druggers, or one-crimers

The problem is, pot is illegal and you can go to jail for it. Maybe that's wrong, but it's still true. Those who smoke pot are engaging in risky behavior, because they know they can be sent to jail. So if they're so unintimidated by the law, what other laws are they breaking?

If pot were legal, I'd probably smoke it myself. Law abiding citizens obey laws. Law breakers aren't going to break just one law.

[GirlinContempt]

44. 'Law breakers aren't going to break just one law.'

At what point does that cut off? I mean, first of all, I call bullshit. I think you can break one law, repeatedly even, and not break others. Second, I am against the more extreme forms of this line of thinking. At what point do we look at the laws and disobey them because they are wrong? Should all laws be obeyed because they are 'laws' and we therefore be judged as criminals who break many laws because we broke one we found to be unjust? Do you implicitly trust law makers and process?
If you break traffic laws, does that mean you're going to run out and break others? How about pet laws? Littering?

[Courtesy Flush]

49. You're really stretching it.

Smoking pot is not an act of civil disobediance. There's no virtue in breaking the law just because you want to get high. If you're smoking it for medical reasons, I'm on your side.

Likewise if you're speeding just because you like driving fast, you've got a ticket coming and you deserve one.

The laws you mentioned don't generally carry jail time. Drug posession does. If you're playing chicken with laws that can earn you hard time, then you'll break other laws (where do you draw THAT line?). It's easy to apply rhetoric to justify criminal activity. The simple fact is that if you're doing it just for kicks, you're not in league with Rosa Parks.

[GirlinContempt]

50. Well, where I come from

Smoking pot doesn't get you jail time, AS IT SHOULDN'T. There IS virtue, in my opinion, in breaking unjust or unfair laws. And laws against pot are just that, unfair. Smoking pot may not put you in cahoots with Rosa Parks, but partaking in harmless drugs does not put you in cahoots with other serious law breakers. The extension that I am making is no more far fetched than the extension that you are. Many, many people smoke pot who do not also break other laws. Likewise, many many people break laws that do not smoke pot. So making the extension from "Law breakers will break more laws, law abiding citizens break none" to "What about unjust or unfair laws?" is just as legit.

There is no virtue in breaking the law just because you want to have intercourse in a particular way with your partner. A good example of a law that is/was regarding only personal gratification in the same way you could say about pot, that did carry jail time, and was broken often and repeatedly and rightfully so.

[Courtesy Flush]

51. Okay, then why have laws at all?

You're saying you only have to obey the laws you agree with. If that's the case, there's no point having any laws, because anyone can claim to have a moral objection to a law.

If you're going to take a stand, then take a stand. Smoke pot in public places and become a test case. That's how civil disobedience works. Doing it behind closed doors is cowardly. If the law is wrong, face it head on.

I agree with you that marijuana laws serve no purpose. But smoking pot also serves no purpose (except in cases of medical need). If you're going to be a crusader, you could do better.

[GirlinContempt]

54. NOW who is stretching?

I'm not saying you only have to obey laws you 'agree' with. That is a preposterous claim. Where I am, people do smoke pot in public places, and they don't all hide it. But should the people in my example have intercourse in a public place instead of hiding behind closed doors? It isn't cowardly, and you can face things head on without puffing smoke in a cops face. The 'serves no purpose' argument can be made about, well, the example I gave you. I don't have to pick one 'crusade' (I don't even smoke pot, but whatever), I can talk about or rail against all the things I find unjust or unfair. I'm talented that way. But if that's how you really feel, I'll turn that back around on you. If you're going to be a crusader, you could do much better than targeting some potheads.

[HEyHEY]

64. Yeah, I'm not a thief but urinate in public daily

[Archae]

19. The worst part about this...

Cops are really "drug seizure" happy lately, and the parents could lose thier house due to el Stupido's dealing.

[elehhhhna]

24. Also true. This kid is not a horrible person...

but he's got some big problems, the least of which is pot smoking.

[Darth_Kitten]

34. Idiots like him don't need to be coddled or enabled anymore.....

let him take some personal responsiblity for his life......

[barb162]

48. That's right

Enabling just promotes that behavior

[Darth_Kitten]

52. Damn straight!

We see too much of this behaviour condoned in society. (stepping up on my soapbox....) Oh, they need a new government funded program, oh, they need a million dollar skatepark to keep them occupied, oh, they need something MORE from society. Bollocks.


Where's the concern for those who have had their lives changed/altered/damaged by the behaviour of selfish drunks/druggies/idiots?

We all have to take some responsibility for keeping our shit together (so to speak) so those who screw around and wreck things for others get no sympathy from me.

Throw the book at the bums, I say. :rant:

;)

[barb162]

66. I like your rant, I agree. One does the kids no favor by

allowing this

[Darth_Kitten]

67. I can set them straight.......

no more coddling the little bast#rds. :D

I think people in general are really fed up. Just up here, for several days straight there are stories in the newspapers, cars being stolen, cars being broken into....6 and 7 year old arsonists that they can't do anything about....if I was the victim of one of their antics I'd be steaming pissed off. You should have read some of the responses in what to do with these problem kids. (though I think there really are a few problem adults as well)

I'm just a stickler for manners and consideration I guess. Don't ruin society for everyone, punks. :rant: ;)

[IndyBob]

28. I Toke

but agree you did the right thing. The current drug laws are asinine, but until things change, a bit of discretion is in order.

The kid openly dealing drugs is spitting in the face of his folks and the community. Its the basic "I'm the only important thing in existence, screw everyone else" attitude. If he posted on political boards, he'd be a Freeper.

[elehhhhna]

30. I have been known to toke quite a bit YEARS ago...

never met someone stoopid enough to pass it through the front-door, though.

As I've said to any a neighborhood teen: If you're unsophisticated enough to get caught, you are not mature enough to smoke it. Then I tell them how folks normally get caught. They're usually guilty of everything I can come up with. Gotaa educate the children! Especially now, since Federal college student aid & loans are now UNAVAILABLE permanently to anyone with a drug conviction (even as a minor, even for miniscule quantities of pot).

[IndyBob]

36. Student Loans Unavailable?

When did the nut jobs pass that one?

Its a good thing for Jebby's kids great-grandpa got rich selling to the Nazis, and they did not need to apply for aid.

[Courtesy Flush]

38. I doubt it's true

Maybe for adult offenders, but juvenile records are sealed, and lenders would definitely not have access to them.

[hippywife]

55. You are the one who is wrong.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_320250.html

[elehhhhna]

57. How so? They deny it for convictions. If you['re Noelle BUsh you

can fake or GO to rehab (for 30K plus per month) and get around it. That's shocking. Not.

[hippywife]

59. I was replying to kdsusa's

post #38 that doubted that it was true that such a law had been passed.

[elehhhhna]

60. Sheesh Hippiewife I am such an ass tonight. all anxious and crabby.

forgive me, please?

[elehhhhna]

56. Google it up...it was a big deal maybe 2 years ago,

[fishnfla]

31. When I was in graduate school

I had a note-taking service that I ran out of my apartment. Young people showing up at all times of the day and night to pick up their class notes.
The busybody lady next door put 2 and 2 together and called the cops. They pulled a survellience and 2+2=5, the biggest drug bust the neighborhood had ever seen. Total haul: a photocopier and reams of paper.
Man I laughed so hard when they were going through my meager belongings....the other students had a field day....Crackhead note service...for the rest of the time I ran that service, they'd hollar: 'thanks for the dope' past the ladies apt....

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

35. That's hilarious.

I once had a cop want to search my car because he smelled patchouli (it was my hand lotion). Eventually, I just put my hands up and told him to sniff, because he didn't believe patchouli hand lotion existed. So yeah, my car wasn't searched (nothing in it to find anyway) and I didn't even get a ticket.

[IndyBob]

39. Things were different 25 years ago,

a friend and I were going to Madison WI to check out the university. We were both in high school.

Well a day off of school is a good enough reason to party. We smoked a few. Once in Madison, we got hopelessly lost, circled the Capitol about three times. Got pulled over by a city cop.

When I rolled down the window, a cloud of blue smoke wafted out, right into the cop's face. He waved his hand, coughed, and asked us a few questions. Apparently, our answers were ok, he gave us directions and sent us on our merry way.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

40. A couple years ago, I was in NYC with some friends.

We were walking down some side street by Avenue A smoking a bowl. We realized there was a cop standing there when we were about 15' away. It was a really dark street and she was under the shadow of a tree. The pipe was quickly stashed and we tried to act normal. As we walked by she said, "Guys, I smelled it, but I didn't see anything, so you just have a good night." We wished her a good night and hurried off that street pretty fast.

[GirlinContempt]

41. Friday I was walking down the street

and some guy past me smoking a joint. And also probably every second or third day before that, and that, and that.

I remember sitting on the street with my friend erin one day a few years back, and she had a joint behind her ear, and a cop walked by. Stopped. and said "You might want to put that in your pocket". She did.

I also remember people walking near cops smoking joints, making no effort to hide what they were doing.


But, this IS Canada. While still not totally tolerant, at least less ridiculously overzealous (not to mention stupid. I remember reading some article about how pot was addictive from cnn. They claimed pot was more addictive than heroin because more people went into treatment for it. They failed to mention that at least at the time, juvenile offenders were offered a choice between claiming substance addiction and going to rehab, or going to juvy.)

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

43. I smoked pot in Montreal within sight of a cop.

He was stopped at a light. He didn't seem to care about the group sitting on the bookstore steps with a joint.

[GirlinContempt]

45. Ahhh montreal

Then again, in montreal they could have been axe murdering someone, and if they gave the cop and beer and a smoke he would have gone away :D

[elehhhhna]

58. Heck, in Amsterdam the cops WAVE & SMILE!

[barb162]

47. I'm glad the ladies did it

The kid sounds like a delinquent

[Darth_Kitten]

53. spoiled PUNK.

;)

I really hate people today. heh heh.

[barb162]

65. That's hilarious.

I have two delinquents living next door so I guess I identify wioth the story

[HEyHEY]

63. You had a hook-up next door and busted him? Damn n/t