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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:36 PM
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Have you just about had it with SUPERHERO MOVIES?
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 03:39 PM by Radio_Lady


Now we're awaiting Spiderman 3 -- and after that, a bunch of others.

One blogger makes this point, too -- here's an opinion from The New Yorker in Hollywood.

http://newyorkerinhollywood.blogspot.com/2006/04/more-marvel-more-superheros.html

Friday, April 28, 2006

More Marvel, More Superheros

Today, The Hollywood Reporter posted an article about the huge new slate of superhero films that Marvel Films plans to churn out starting in 2008. This panoply includes, a sequel to the 2003 release of Hulk (which I thought Ang Lee turned into a visual stunner, even though everyone else on the planet seemed to hate it), an Iron Man film to be directed by Jon Favreau, an Ant Man film written by Edgar Wright (writer/director of Shaun of the Dead), and a Captain America film, among others.

I’m all for comic book movies, but I’m curious about how this pack of films will do in the near future. Like anything else in pop culture, superheros have waxed and waned over the decades. In ’78 when the original Superman was released, it was a huge hit, and spawned three sequels, which all declined in quality bit by bit after the first entry. Tim Burton’s Batman in ’89 launched the caped crusader craze which was to last through the 90’s before petering out in ’97 with the infamous Batman Forever. In 2000, the first of the nouveau superhero films hit with Bryan Singer’s X-Men, and since then it seems that a superhero cinema craze has hit like never before. This decade, I think in retrospect, will be known as the decade of the superhero. The past six years have seen three X-Men films, two Spiderman films, a Hulk film, a Punisher film, a Daredevil film, an Elektra film, a Fantastic Four film, and the revitalization of the Batman and Superman franchises. Not to mention the various sequels for these films that are already careening down the pipeline to a theatre near you. Soon to be releases include another Spiderman, another Batman, Wonderwoman, and now, the multi-picture barrage of films from Marvel.

It seems to me like it’s only a matter of time before the public gets burnt out on all this. There will be a superhero backlash as people tire of accidents involving radiation and hi-tech gadgets. Or will they? Are the basic components of the superhero genre so universal –so relatable, that they remain invincible? Even when the comic book/superhero movie market dies down, it only seems to do so for a couple of years before it starts up again. It’s true that people never seem to tire of the summer Hollywood blockbuster formula. But there’s also a certain “special” quality that I think is attached to this genre of films, an originality; dare I say magical at the risk of sounding foolishly sentimental.

More at link, above...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:37 PM
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1. I suppose they're trying to tell us the world is in doom.
:D
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:45 PM
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2. Well, Doomsday was spoken about in the 1940s, but it hasn't happened.
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 03:46 PM by Radio_Lady
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:32 PM
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3. You gramatically-challenged fool! The world is OF Doom!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 05:49 PM
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4. Only the pisspoor shitty ones like Hulk and Superman Returns
The good ones are great, and I want more more more!
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:04 PM
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5. some movies good....
some movies....bad.....

same with comic book movies...

comics and comic books have been around for over 100 years...give or take...and the movies have only scratched the surface much less mined the "good stuff"...

a movie that actually captured the spirit of, "Watchmen" or of "MiracleMan", would boggle the mind of the average clone...
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:07 PM
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6. Watchmen would be sweet! I'd also love to a Swamp Thing that is
more like the Alan Moore one. Christ, that was good writing.

And I will forever be waiting, I'm sure, for a Normalman movie. Please make one!!!!! Please!!!!

We also need a Flaming Carrot movie.
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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:27 PM
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16. I Don't Think Watchmen Can Work as a Movie
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 07:32 PM by chrisau214
It needs to get the space it needs as a television mini-series, preferably on cable. I would love to see a new Swamp Thing movie. I don't care if it's based on Moore's version or the original Wein/Wrightson version.

If it were to be based on the Wein/Wrightson version it would need to try to capture the mood and atmosphere of Wrightson's art. It should be an obvious homage to the old Universal horror movies and most of the scenes should occur at night. I like the original Swamp Thing movie well enough but some of the areas were it went wrong (besides looking incredibly cheap) were that it didn't fully capture the feel of Wrightson's art and the changes to Arcane were just out and out stupid.

It would be hard to do the movie based on Moore's version because much of what made Moore's version was the mindfuck involved with Moore completely altering the original version without denying that the original version existed. So one has to know the original version before one can see the character evolve into the Moore version. It would be great if it could somehow happen but that's a lot of material to try to condense into two hours.

I think this is why most comic book based movies fail. There is simply too much backstory that has to be eliminated in order to create a movie.




Chris
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:38 PM
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18. But what about Normalman?
:D

And I agree with you on the Swamp Thing - I think doing Moore's would be far too difficult; same with Watchmen: SciFi channel should do a 12 episode mini-series.

And the backstory can indeed pose problems with the superhero movies.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 08:13 PM
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19. if they can do lord of the rings
they can do the watchman....
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:08 PM
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7. as A great big nerd i love superhero movies
well when done right that is.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:09 PM
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8. What superhero movies?
I haven't seen one since Christopher Reeve was Superman.

I have no desire to see any more.

I prefer to listen to militaristic propaganda about heroes, thank you very much.

Wasn't Jessica or Jennifer or what's her name a hero? And that Tillman guy? Wasn't he a hero?

I'll pick my own real life heroes, thank you very much!

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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:10 PM
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9. Yes, I have
Except for Batman, who's very cool.
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:15 PM
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10. Ant-man...?????
...boy, there's a concept for you. I'm old enough to remember the original series, and even then it sucked, which Marvel realized soon enough because they turned Dr Pym into Giant-Man. A combination of Spielberg, Kurasawa, Orson Welles, Jack Kirby, and Shakespeare couldn't make anything of this concept...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 06:49 PM
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11. I want a The Flash movie. Is that too much to ask?
The Flash is the fastest man alive--and being able to run, at light speed when needed, is his only power.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:09 PM
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12. I'm telling ya, Green Lantern would make an excellent series of movies
But it has to be on a big, universe spanning scale.

A movie where it's just him on Earth would suck balls. It has to be big, big, big.
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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:19 PM
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13. A Green Lantern Series Would Be Great
But I think the first one has to be set primarily on Earth and feature the Hal Jordan GL. Sinestro needs to be the villain and the end of the movie should reveal the existence of the whole GL Corps and set up the space-faring epic that would stretch over two more movies.




Chris
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:23 PM
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14. I think that's fair enough.
But the focus should definitely shift to the Corps ASAP.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:25 PM
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15. And, please God, it has to be written well, too!
There is so much easy potential for some jackoff shitbag to write a pisspoor Green Lantern story. I think more so than other superheroes, the potential for a shitty movie for Green Lantern is way high.

But a truly good Green Lantern story will stand head and shoulders above most superhero movies!

Green Lantern is a truly amazing character.
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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 07:30 PM
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17. Absolutely
Green Lantern could be disastrous in the wrong hands. Please no Jack Black comedy versions. If it were done right, and treated with the proper respect, it could possibly be the best space-opera ever put onto film. At least until someone has the guts to make a 'New Gods' movie and show everybody where 'Star Wars' really came from.




Chris
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 08:22 PM
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20. That, AND TV shows made into movies.
Nobody has any imagination anymore. :banghead:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 08:25 PM
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21. No. They can make whatever movies they want. Doesn't mean I'll watch
them, but as far as I'm concerned they can churn out 3 per week if that's what interests them.
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