Kind of an update

[reyd reid reed]

I tried to edit my other post but it won't let me. Something about time limits...

:shrug:

The latest news is that there really isn't any. She's still not home and I still haven't heard from her. I think I've tracked her to one of the phone numbers that I had and I've called it several times but they still deny knowing her. Funny thing, though...when one of my boys called the same number from a different phone, they told him they were working on it. Hmmmmm...I think someone's lying to me, don't you?

I've done the reverse directory thing on the number and can't get any information other than the fact that it's a land based line in Colorado Springs. Which I'd already figured out, being the genius-type person that I am. And being that that's where we are and I don't have to dial a 1 + the area code to call it. And being that I hear the same voices in the background every time I call. And being that you can tell when someone's one a cell phone, 90% of the time.

I don't know what I'd do without y'all. I really don't. You're my rock. I read the thread I posted earlier and I've never been so touched by a group of people in my life. I've been by myself almost all day long (my boys have just recently gotten home) and this whole thing has made me literally sick.

Y'all are the best.

:grouphug:

[Nicole]

1. Continued good thoughts

for you & your family. :hug:

[reyd reid reed]

12. Thank you

:hug:

Right now it's just a waiting game...which is the hardest part.

[tinfoil tiaras]

2. Hope your daughter comes home safe & sound

More hugs for you and your family :hug: :hug:

[reyd reid reed]

15. Thanks...

Right now we can use all the hugs we can get. Her brothers are even worried.

[tinfoil tiaras]

16. And I will GLADLY provide more hugs

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

Just let me know if you want/need more! :D

[lizziegrace]

3. Give the number to the police

you have reason to believe they know something but they won't talk. They can track it.

:hug:

[mzteris]

4. heck give some the geeks on DU

the number - I bet they can track it, too.

Trouble is, I'm not sure exactly who that might be......


OMG I'd be out of my freakin' mind with worry!

[reyd reid reed]

17. I did

The problem is that because of her age and the way she snuck out, she's officially listed as a runaway. And that's not illegal. They'll call but they won't do anything else.

Fat lotta help they are, huh?

:hug:

[laylah]

126. First off

:hug: :hug: :hug:

I lived in Ft. Collins for 20 years. When my youngest was 14, she pulled the same stunt. The first time I was absolutely frantic, the second time, I found out where she was and had her arrested...we NEVER went through that again. (of course, this is but a nutshell version...it would take walnut GROVE to tell you the whole of it :silly:)

That said, from my similar experience with the police, all I had to do was get "frantic mom" on them! I emphasized I felt my daughter was in danger and they needed to do SOMETHING! Unfortunately, unless you do that (expressly state you fear for her safety), they will not make any big efforts to help you.

My thoughts are with you, RRR. Please keep us posted!

Jenn

Edited to add: were there any Raves in the area? The place to find that out would be a kids hangout coffee shop.

[Nicole]

5. Have you given the police the number?

If they have caller i.d. a police number showing up might scare them into changing their tune about not knowing her.

[reyd reid reed]

20. I gave the police all the numbers...but I told them that that one was the

most likely, and why I thought so.

Still nothing, though.

[auntAgonist]

6. Thanks for updating R! ... replied to your PM

once again. Hang in there. You have all the prayers and good wishes you need or want.




aA

[reyd reid reed]

23. Thank you...

:hug:

[xmas74]

7. Pass it on to the police.

They can trace it easily and, if nothing else, do a welfare check.

Land-based is easy for them to trace. The address will be in the 9-1-1 system.

[reyd reid reed]

25. If the police would do it...

They won't. They'll call it and if I give them an address, they'll go knock on the door but if whoever answers says she's not there, that's the end of it.

Apparently she's not breaking any laws. The kicker is, whoever's helping her IS...but unless they say that she's there, the police won't do anything. And what do you think the chances are that they'll say, "Come on in, here she is, right here on the couch."

Shit.

[txwhitedove]

26. Use her list of numbers to call all her friends and tell them the police

are now involved and you are tracing that one # where you think she is.
The kids will call each other and hopefully get her out of there.

[reyd reid reed]

35. They all know...either the kids themselves or the parents.

We'll see.

:hug:

Thank you.

[xmas74]

30. Did you file an official missing person's report?

Don't let the police tell you that you have to wait 48 hours-federal law says immediately, especially in the case of someone underage.

Tell the police you would be glad to press kidnapping charges too. And then talk to your local news agencies. Get the most recent pics of her ready and turn them over to both the police and the news. If it makes the news chances are someone will turn it in.

[reyd reid reed]

33. It's been filed...and they've got a recent photo

News won't do anything unless there's an Amber Alert issued...and she doesn't fit the criteria for that.

[xmas74]

39. Push it w/ the news.

Our news has done that in the past, even w/o an Amber Alert.

How much older are the people that she might be with and are there any boys there?

[NJ Democrats]

8. They are most likely lying

I agree with the others, give the # to the cops.
I hope your daughter returns and is fine!
:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

28. Thank you

:hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

9. Give the number to the police, PRONTO!!

I have Lexis and could do a reverse phone search for you, but it might not come up. CALL THE COPS.

:hug: from a mom with three kids, two of them teens. Best to you, sweetie.

[Flaxbee]

10. thanks for the update...

Do your boys know any of her friends? I am so sorry your family is going through this right now.

The number where you think she is -- can you tell them to tell her that you love her, she needs to come home and/or tell you that she's OK and when she'll be home?

I agree with everyone else -- TELL THE COPS you think she's there! The "working on it" thing would alternatively freak me out/piss me off, because there is no reason for her not to tell you she's OK on the phone unless she can't talk or is being kept away from the phone.

I don't want to be in the slightest bit alarmist b/c I know you're going through hell right now, but perhaps using words to the people you call where you think she is like "kidnapped" might get them to get off their asses and talk to you. But then again, if she is being held against her will, you don't want to spook anyone into moving her.

What does your 'gut' say? Do you feel like the people at this number are fucking with you? Is it ominous in any way? Does this feel like a (cruel) joke and do you know of any reason why your daughter would stay gone this long?

Anyway, again, I don't want to pry or be hurtful. Just trying to brainstorm a bit. :hug:

edited for clarity

[femmocrat]

11. Thanks for the update... let us know when she is home safe, OK?

[GirlinContempt]

13. I'm so sorry about all of this

:hug:

[flvegan]

14. It's an Alaska Native Broadband number

It's not a land line.

Still working...

[reyd reid reed]

19. That's as far as I could get, too

I thought it said that it was a land based line...so I'm wondering if that's one of those internet phone thingies like Vonnage...

Alaska Native Broadband License 1, LLC...with a corporate address in Anchorage and listed under the Indiana Public Utilities Commission?

Indiana?

We're in Colorado.

I have to confess...I'm lost.

[flvegan]

21. No, it's a mobile

Or at least it's being used that way.

If it's a broadband number, you might consider logging into her computer as her and seeing what messages (text or otherwise) have been sent.

It's also a new number, recently registered from what I'm getting.

ANB serves the area via Leap, or so it says.

[reyd reid reed]

29. She doesn' t have a computer or a cell phone of her own...

I got this number from the redial on my home phone and the history on my cell...

Damn...okay...deep breath...

[flvegan]

56. Okay...deep breath...just a new game, that's all.

We'll crack it.

No biggie.

[reyd reid reed]

63. You are, without a doubt, the absolute best...

:hug:

[flvegan]

78. Not at all. That name's no good, though.

Got anything else?

[auntAgonist]

80. kick, more good vibes

[Nicole]

22. This site says it's a new service in your area

http://www.freshnews.com/news/telecom-wireless/article_27355.html?Leap%20Wireless%20International

Leap Wireless International Inc. (NASDAQ: LEAP) and Alaska Native Broadband 1 License, LLC (ANB), a Leap joint venture, today announced the signing of three-year agreements with Lucent Technologies (NYSE: LU) collectively valued at approximately $125 million, providing Leap and ANB with third-generation (3G) CDMA2000(R) 1xEV-DO technology in new ANB markets and existing Leap markets across the United States. Under the terms of the agreements, Leap's operating subsidiary, Cricket Communications, Inc. has committed to purchase $119 million of equipment, while ANB has committed to $6 million.

Leap expects to begin deploying CDMA2000(R) 1xEV-DO technology in various existing markets and ANB expects to provide this technology in its new markets Colorado Springs, Colorado; El Paso, Texas and Las Cruces, New Mexico in 2006.
The technology will enable Leap and ANB to provide their customers with new mobile high-speed data services such as Internet access, information and location-based services, and high-quality music downloads at speeds of up to 2.4 Megabits per second.

[mzteris]

24. you can send a textmessage

via this site - I think it's the phone service being used.

http://www.jumpmobile.com/


but while I was there - I saw a "music happenings" in the area - was there a concert or a party or something she wanted to do? A boy she's been wanting to see and you said no? Did you fight? Argue?

Have you talked to her FRIENDS? Her BEST friend? Her least "best friend"? Have you searched her computer? Her room? Her diary? Anything is fair game at this point.

I canNOT believe the police are just blowing this off. Call a private detective.

[reyd reid reed]

31. We didn't fight or argue, really...

Other than the usual 13-year-old vs. mother-type thing. "It's 11:00, what are you still doing up?" "I'm cleaning." "If you're cleaning, then why is the tee vee on and the living room messier than it was an hour ago?" "I'm CLEANING it up, sheesh."

Then she went to bed. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Until this morning.

I've talked to everyone that she knows...that I've heard that she knows...that knows someone that she knows...

I don't know what else to do. And I did just send a message, though I doubt anything'll come of it. Nothing else has today, don't know why it should change now.

But...it might, so...

[txwhitedove]

18. Please give that phone # to the police. Don't worry about embarrassing

anyone, or making a scene with the police. If your daughter
is there and they are all covering for her, then I'm sorry to say
they are probably playing you and hoping for the tearful mom to
beg her to come home. It was done to me by my own daughter
years ago, and it is emotional blackmail that won't stop.
-on edit: not being callous because I have great concern for
your family. It is just something to consider.

:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

32. I've never been one to be concerned about embarrassing myself

or anyone else, for that matter, when it comes to my kids. She knows this and that might be part of the problem...I imagine she's afraid to come home. And if I could get an address for this.....fuckhead....I'd be over there so fast I'd set a new land-speed record and drag her out of there (and probably get myself arrested in the process because while the police might have to stop at the door, if I believe she's in there, I sure as hell won't).

I've been weepy and teary off-and-on all afternoon...but she won't know it. She's 13 and...

*sigh*

She's my baby. I've got four boys but only one daughter.

Still...I'm not a mush-mom. And she knows it.

[txwhitedove]

41. And mom's will move heaven and earth to keep their babies safe

and at home. I'm so sorry. When she gets home you can show her
every side of Mom - mad Mom, worried-sick Mom, and the mush-Mom.
Her brothers will let her have it for worrying you.

:hug:

[wildhorses]

27. adding some more POW to the locating mojo...

wish there was more I could do:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

37. Thank you...

You help more than you know. Just knowing that someone cares...

:hug:

[jobycom]

34. I'm sure you've thought of everything, but...

Just in case: Try Googling her name to see if she's mentioned on anyone's website. Maybe she has friends you don't know about, and maybe one of them would know whose number you have, or know something.

I don't know what to say, R. My daughter is 13, too. Just keep pushing the cops, make them take it seriously, get people searching the neighborhood to see if she feel into a ditch or ravine and can't get out. Push the cops that she isn't a runaway, that she didn't take anything to imply an overnight stay. If she's not a runaway, they might have more authority to question the people with that phone number. If you can even convince them that the other people are lying, then they would be impeding an investigation, and that would give the cops more right to question them. Have you told them about your son trying to call the number and getting a different response? That would be a lie, and might empower the cops to be able to do something.

I'm sure you thought of all this and I'm just wasting your time. Wish we could all help somehow. :hug:

[LeftyMom]

36. And check your browser history

If she's really up to something she may have thought to clear this, but chances are she's checked a friend's myspace or something (or she has her own) and that will give you more information and people to talk with. If she's anything like all of my sister's teenage friends she updates her myspace (or friendster or whatever) more often than she eats. Even if she doesn't, her friends do and chances are somebody's posted something useful.

[reyd reid reed]

42. That's one of the things I'm working on

She's got a page that someone set up for her (because I'm Evil and don't let her do as much online as she wants to) I'm going through her 'friends' now and I'm trying to get her password (it's here somewhere, I just can't find it) so that I can check her messages. I'm hoping...

Keep your fingers crossed...

:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

40. Oh, Jobycom

:hug:

That's one thing I hadn't thought of...the whole lying angle and impeding an investigation...

Thank you!

[xmas74]

45. It is impeding.

And a police agency would know that immediately.

If there are boys there more than two years older then her you can threaten statuatory rape charges. Since she's under 14 it is a felony.

Get the flyers out, call the local papers and stations and try to find a sympathic reporter. If nothing else they might want to do a story about what the police have NOT done by way of following leads in this case. That type of story does sell sometimes.

[LeftyMom]

48. It's also contributing to the delinquency of a minor to aid a runaway

or to cover for her. A big deal if the parents of whatevever friend she's holed up with know where she is.

[xmas74]

52. Exactly.

That's why I don't understand why the police haven't acted on this. They have a number and a possibility of a dozen charges to dole out. Most departments would be overjoyed to have a number and a way to get to them.

[reyd reid reed]

54. You'd think so, wouldn't you?

Plus, if they came down on this, wouldn't it be a deterrent to whoever's helping her? And to her, if she ever thinks about doing anything like this again.

[xmas74]

59. Exactly.

You could demand a juvenile referral. They'd intervene and make the department do their job.

If they don't give you the referral immediately (as in calling it in while you are standing there) call information and make a self referral. That is allowed. Ask for an agent to come to your house or meet them there. They'd take all the juveniles involved, possibly make them spend a few days in juvenile hall or make them do community service and do followups on them all. And some agencies work as an advocate, pressing for the pd to file charges.

Sometimes, the more agencies involved the better. In this case, juvenile would breathe down the pd's neck because they want this case resolved so they can get their paperwork filed.

[reyd reid reed]

66. That's something that I can get from the police?

I just got off the phone with them again...pushed a little more.

I see another trip down there in my future. It's harder to put someone off that's standing right in front of you.

[mzteris]

70. definitely go down there

raise cain - politely, firmly, non-hysterically - but let them know in no uncertain terms that they better get off of their fat donut asses and FIND YOUR DAUGHTER!

JHFC How fing stupid ARE THEY? She's 13 years OLD!

As an old trainer in HR used to say, "just think how will this play on 60 Minutes when they shove a microphone in front of your face and say 'you failed to do (what?)'"?

Tell them your next call is to the local tv station.


I STILL think you should call a PRIVATE DETECTIVE! They have resources YOU don't (including probably backdoor police info) and don't suffer as many of the same restrictions as "public servants" have.

[xmas74]

71. Juvenile referral?

That's part of their job. Most cases where they suspect a runaway are automatically referred to the juvenile office.

Demand one. If they don't comply, go directly to the juvenile office and demand to speak to the person in charge. If there is no one there find out where juveniles are kept overnight(aka juvenile hall) and plead your case there.

Sounds even more like the police are not doing their job. Most of them would have already contacted juvenile on your behalf.

[SoCalDem]

119. Wow.. I just saw this.. I have been in your shoes years ago

Our son was 13 and disappeared for FIVE days..

every time the phone rang, I was afraid to answer it fearing it was the police with bad news. We spent every night and day driving around and looking for him and his friends.. (my son was a "bad-boy", and kept a lot from us)..

anyway

5 days later he just strolled into the house like he had been next door playing video games for a few hours.. "Hi, Mom"..

where HAD he been?

he went surfing at San Onofre with a bunch of 17 & 18 yr olds and his excuse?

"if I had asked you & Dad, you would have said NO".

He's now 28 and has cleaned up his act, but I am crossing every finger for YOU, and hoping your daughter's adventure is as benign :hug:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

165. I wonder if the cops aren't protecting someone

When my parents were in an accident (hit headon by a juvenile driver), they found out that the man who was supposed to be "their" attorney was keeping from them the fact that the underage driver had been drinking and that the daughter of a friend of his had sold him the booze under the counter at the municipal liquor store.

[reyd reid reed]

53. That's what the police are telling me...

Which is kind of a double-edged sword. They can't go in if they're told she's not there and whoever's there isn't likely to invite them in if they know they'll get in trouble for her being there.

I sent a message to the number, but I still haven't heard anything back. Which doesn't really surprise me.

[jobycom]

47. One other thing, about cops in general

I had some friends who were cops for a while, and people tend to forget they are people at times. If they know the name and/or address attached to that phone number, push them for it. There are things they aren't allowed to do, but they might do it, anyway. I've seen and heard stories about people who convince a cop to slip them a number, or write it down and "forget" it on a desk for a minute. It happens in the movies, but I've seen it happen in real life, and it produced a very happy ending. Don't just play by the rules here. You don't strike me as a rule player, anyway, but liberals in particular get nervous around badges and don't see the people under them.

[reyd reid reed]

51. I just got off the phone with the police...

Apparently they called the number and were told that they didn't know anything. I didn't ask if they got a name, though. I have one (and you betcha I gave it to the police), but the person who answers says that it's his phone and not the name I have.

Sometimes, especially when they're kids, the police can scare 'em into giving a name, though.

I'll call back.

Thank you.

:hug:

[xmas74]

77. Is the phone in another town from your department?

Call that department and request a "check the well being". Usually they will go over there and personally check the situation out, especially if you tell them that you've been told that your daughter is staying there and everyone is acting suspicious over the phone about it.

A phone call isn't going to cut it. Demand a "check the well being" call.

[Jazz2006]

38. Sending good vibes your way, reyd reid reed

What an awful situation.

The lack of action by the police is appalling, to say the least. I think I'd go back to the police station and insist that they phone that number to at least let the people at the other end know that the police are involved, and then I'd try to shame them or scare them into locating your daughter. Threaten to hold them responsible for any harm that might come to her, etc. Or appeal to their parental side and try to shame them into finding the location for you.

It is just so wrong that they will not do anything.

Hoping for the very best outcome, reyd.

:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

46. It's frustrating, to say the least

Oh, they were sympathetic but ultimately it's the same thing, "She's not breaking the law."

They won't do much of anything to help and if I find out where she is and I push the issue -- I, on the other hand, WILL be breaking the law.

It's just not right.

[xmas74]

76. Does your town have a curfew?

If it does and she was out past that w/o a parent or guardian then YES, she was breaking the law. Many towns have a curfew for under 15, as do many large cities.


There is some way around this and the pd knows it but doesn't want to cooperate. Maybe someone knows someone at that address or phone number and is protecting a friend? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'd ask to look at the police report. You should be able to. If they don't show it to you ask to see the dispatcher's log. Most states it is legal for anyone in the public to read the dispatcher's log, per different forms of Sunshine. Technically, they can take out medical calls (only identifying info) and juvenile indentifying info but they have to hand over the log to you.

I used to dispatch. Not too many people know that they can legally access the dispatcher logs but a few do and have done so in the past.

(added: why look at the log? To find out what they've labelled the case, whether missing person, juvenile call or runaway, etc. Also, most departments tend to add any followup info to the log, whether they've made calls or visited places. You might get an idea of what they are doing to followup this case.)

[miss_american_pie]

43. I've been thinking of you all day

I'm praying you have her home safe soon. :hug:

[reyd reid reed]

49. From your lips...

I hope so...thank you.

:hug:

[miss_american_pie]

72. Stay strong

:hug:

[Mutley]

44. RRR.

God, we are all here for you. PM me if you wanna talk. :hug: :hug:

[reyd reid reed]

55. I know, hon...

Thank you. Y'all have made it possible for me to stay sane.

:hug:

[Mutley]

60. If you need a friendly voice you can call me.

Just let me know. :hug:

[reyd reid reed]

67. I might take you up on that, Mutley...

I'm a basket case right about now...

[Mutley]

68. I've PMed you.

:hug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

50. As I said in the first thread, I hope she comes home safe.

And I hope she gets an ass-kicking she'll never forget. :)

Keep us posted, please, rrr, as you get news!

:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

57. I do too, WIMR...

Because if she doesn't come home safe, that's gonna make it awfully hard for me to kill her.

Thank you.

:hug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

58. Ouch. Yeah.

:( :(

[Dangerously Amused]

61. Thank you for the update, I wish it was better news.

But... no news is better than bad news, right?


God, I have been worried sick about you and her all day. Checking in every chance I get in hopes of finding good news. I'll keep checking in, and keep sending good vibes.



Oh sweetie, all my very best wishes for strength and courage in this difficult time.


:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

69. Thanks, DA

And you're right...no news is good news at this point.

I just wish she'd come home so that I could....I don't know. I just want her Home.

:hug:

[CC]

62. If you haven't contacted the

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children do so. They most likely will take it serious and should be able to provide help.
*snip*
After you have reported your child missing to law enforcement, call the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children on our toll-free telephone number, 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678). If your computer is equipped with a microphone and speakers you may talk to one of our Hotline operators via the Internet.
*snip*
Report Your Child Missing

Before you report a child as missing to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, please be sure that all of the requirements listed below have been met.

* the missing child is younger than 18 years of age at the time he or she became missing

* a report has been filed with the appropriate law-enforcement agency

* the caller must be the legal guardian of the missing child or a law-enforcement official

* the caller must have all information necessary to report this child missing including
o name and date of birth
o descriptive information
o companion information, if applicable
o law-enforcement information including the agency name, investigator's name, and all applicable law-enforcement telephone numbers

Report it by Telephone

Call our 24-hour, toll-free Hotline at 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678).

Report it via the Internet

You may talk to our Hotline via the Internet if your computer is equipped with a microphone and speakers.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=1105

[reyd reid reed]

73. Thank you

:hug:

[CC]

79. Hugs to you,

I went looking for info and was a bit thoughtless there. :hug: Well that and I was so mad (still am) at the cops for not taking it seriously enough the less typed the better. At first reading I thought your daughter was older than 13. I don't care if they think she is a run away, at a party or what it is still serious. I have been reading the site and I do believe they will take it serious and they may be able to help get the cops to be more proactive.
Make sure they put her in the NCIC data base. if they haven't call your local FBI office yourself, they will do it. Sending lots supportive thoughts your way and looking for more info/ideas on what you can do. Beyond the worry I know the feeling helpless is torture.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

64. Does she have anyone you know to be her best friend? What do THEY say?

[auntAgonist]

65. Still here, still sending good vibes your way RRR

:hug:

Let me/us know if we can do ANYTHING.


aA

[salin]

74. Adding more positive vibes, and concern.

I hope there is a quick resolution, that she is safe and sound... if not grounded for a very long time.

[lizziegrace]

75. Can you send her an email?

If she's like most of us, she can't go an hour without checking her email. Just a thought...

:hug:

[seemunkee]

81. I can only offer hope and hugs

As a parent I can imagine what you are going through. I've received calls from parents looking for their child and heard their fear, I hope she is safe and healthy and will be home soon.

[Guy Fawkes]

82. I could try with that number...

I'm not sure what help I'd be, but I've done my fair share of info-finding. PM me (if you haven't already figured it all out)

Goodluck!
:hug:

[Jazz2006]

86. Actually, that's a good idea....

Why not post (or PM) the number and dozens of us can start phoning ~ perhaps receiving numerous phone calls from numerous people will have the appropriate effect on those on the other end of the line....

I'll be happy to call them and ask questions even from up here in the great white north.

[auntAgonist]

83. kick for the night crowd ...

:kick:

:hug: RRR


aA

[Guava Jelly]

84. Call me lost But whats going on?

I hope nothing to bad. Is your daughter Ok?
Well anyway I hope everthing works out

[lizziegrace]

85. RRR's daughter hasn't been seen since Friday night

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5402515&mesg_id=5402515

[auntAgonist]

87. here's the original thread.......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x5402515

[Guava Jelly]

88. Sorry to hear about that triple R

I hope she comes home fast and safe so you can properly kill her.
I don't think children understand sometimes the pain they can cause by thier actions.
Well Anyways
:hug:

[Callalily]

89. Praying for

a safe return of your daughter.

[BlueIris]

90. I meditated specifically for her safety last night.

Burned a magenta candle (supposedly, magenta offers some of the most powerful protection you can get from a color) and everything. Hope it helps.

[auntAgonist]

91. Is there any news at all?

Thinking of you and your daughter RRR
:hug:

aA

[Dangerously Amused]

92. Still here, thinking of you and her, sending my love and concern...

I don't post NEARLY as often as I check in here bc I don't want to make the thread too unweildy, but... oh honey, my head and my heart are so messed up with worry for all of you! I can't begin to imagine what you must be going through...


:cry:

[RetroLounge]

93. Been thinking about you...

Good vibes and prayers being sent your way...

:hug:

RL

[grannylib]

94. Still praying and thinking of you...let's keep this at the top, folks, in

support and care for our friend reyd reid reed...

Praying for good news and the safe return of your daughter...

[Mutley]

95. Hey, sweetie.

Still here thinking about you and your daughter. Is there any news yet?

:hug: :grouphug:

[jobycom]

96. Just a kick to let you know we're all still here for you.

Sending all the thoughts, hopes, prayers, and well wishes we are capable of. :hug:

[Whoa_Nelly]

97. Holding positive thoughts for you and your daughter

Went through this with my son when he was 16. Fortunately, he screwed up, was arrested, and taken to juvenile detention. Had to get tough with parents of friends of his, including getting the cops/sheriff to go out to those people's homes to get them to share information on his whereabouts. I don't want to go into details, but suffice it to say, getting that info from his friends, and pressuring the parents to cooperate, helped to narrow down his location, and made it possible to get the right police departments involved as he had run to another city.

And, in your case, I hope something happens that busts open where your daughter is, and that she comes home safely to you. You are doing all you can...just keep hammering away at the public servants and others who can do more on you and your daughter's behalf :hug: :grouphug: :hug:

[NewWaveChick1981]

98. Still sending good vibes your way.

:hug: Let us know something when you can. :hug: :pals:

[Blue Diadem]

99. Sending prayers

Holding positive thoughts for your daughter to come home safely. :hug:

[auntAgonist]

100. keeping it kicked until we hear something.

good thoughts continued throughout the day and as needed.

I've placed a candle in my window and it shall remain there until we hear that R's daughter is home safe.

aA
:hi:


to some, a candle in the window may sound corny, but it has been a family thing here for many years when someone is hospitalized etc ...

It stays until they return home.

[Dude_CalmDown]

101. Damn. Good luck.

Please keep us updated.

[michaelpush]

102. Check cookies and temp files

Hope all turns out ok...Have you tried checking Cookies and Temp files on the computer? That could give a clue to where she navigates...perhaps a chatroom or forum? Contacts there?

[Corgigal]

103. cops family here

Let me understand this, in Colorado it's legal for a 13 year old to go missing..poof? Sure, she is "probably" a runaway but the cops shouldn't treat a 13 year old that way. In my state, it's 16 and even then you can push the cops to do whats right.

Now why I'm saying this is because the cops could call the broadband (cell phone) provider and get the address to the account. It's not a flipping complicated thing to do.

PM me if you need my husband help. He's a retired cop but he knows some ways to get things done for you.

[auntAgonist]

104. reyd reid reed says there is still no sign of her daughter ...

lets keep those good vibes going.

aA

[mzteris]

106. damn - I was hoping

she was just too busy hugging and yelling at her.

Have the police gotten off of their @sses YET about this?

I'd be totally ballistic and/or basketcase at this point.

[grannylib]

109. Shit. I have SO been hoping for good news...

Kicked and recommended.

[salin]

110. I had hoped the lack of a new update equalled

being busy dealing with said daughter, and too caught up in that to update (with the hope meaning that the daughter was okay.)

[grannylib]

111. Yes, that was my hope too...the 'no news being good news' thing...

will keep praying and hoping...

[Nicole]

115. Thanks for the update

Prayers are continuing for RRR & daughter.

[Dangerously Amused]

105. kick

and hug


:hug:

[Nickster]

107. Kick. Fingers crossed n/t

[tinfoil tiaras]

108. Kicked & Recced

I don't pray very much but I will take a few minutes out from DUing to say a silent prayer for you and your family. I REALLY hope your daughter gets home safe and sound.
:hug: :hug:

[Sannum]

112. kicked

I am sending a few prayers your way.

:hug:

[blondeatlast]

113. Kick with a prayer for good news. Gonna go hug my 9yo son now.

Blessings to you and your family, RRR.

[Kajsa]

114. I'm sending MORE good vibes

and thoughts your way!!

I hope she contacts you very soon.
This is taking a toll on you- try to remember to eat something
and get some rest when you can.

I've got a big hug reserve filled the brim, just for you-
just let me know when you need more!

:hug:

[u4ic]

116. Oh my goodness, reyd reid reed

You must be out of your mind with worry.

I hope she contacts you very soon. I'm thinking about you both. :hug:

[miss_american_pie]

117. Dammit

I was hoping to come back to a happy update.

Hang in there, rrr. :hug:

[deadparrot]

118. Hopefully, no news is good news.

More positive vibes going RRR's way.

[auntAgonist]

120. keepin' this kicked

:hug:


aA

[blondeatlast]

121. Kick for all the positive energy and savvy DU can muster.

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[Kat45]

122. Kick to keep the thread up front

[helderheid]

123. My thoughts and prayers are with you!

[ThomCat]

124. I'm hoping people start talking to you soon.

You're the last people they should be stonewalling.

[helderheid]

125. .

[laylah]

127. keep it kicked!

[auntAgonist]

132. yes please do. and thanks :)

[Giant Robot]

128. My problems are not as great as your own

but they are weighing me down. All I can offer right now are some prayers and good wishes. You have them with all my heart.

[Maestro]

129. I am at a loss for words.

I really don't know what to say except that I wish you the very best during this difficult time. I hope this all turns out to be a goofy decision to catch a ride in a cab somewhere to see a friend on the spur of the moment thus forgetting the things she left. Keep hounding the cab company and the police and get some news coverage from the paper. Best wishes!

[auntAgonist]

130. another kick for RRR. n/m

[AirmensMom]

131. Kick

:kick:

Still sending good thoughts, vibes, and prayers. :hug: :grouphug:

[Fleshdancer]

133. Fundraiser for hiring a detective. Is that a good idea?

I have no idea how much it would cost to hire a detective but I would be more than willing to help pitch in.

[Schema Thing]

145. Let's do it

It's something at least.

[Donailin]

134. Call the police.

Right away. They will track the number.

[TrogL]

135. Have you read the fscking thread?

She's done all that. They're not helping.

[Donailin]

136. No,I Didnt

I see that most everyone is saying the same thing. No need to get angry at me, though, I'm not the bad guy. But I have a 14 year old daughter and know EXACTLY how Reid feels. She should take the computer to the police or someone else who can access the AIM log and see who shes been talking to. She should aslo check to see if her daughter has a MySpace and read those comments. Also, she can look at the cell phone log online, assuming her daughter has a cell phone and see the numbers she's called and text messaged.

[auntAgonist]

137. just fyi. her daughter doesn't have her own computer, she does

have a myspace page however and it's got nothing of any value there. She doesn't have a cell phone either.

You're correct in that you aren't the bad guy here :)

I think R is doing the best she can with what she's got right now. Unfortunately the police aren't helping too much.

:hi: and thanks for your input.

aA

[AirmensMom]

140. Have you heard ANYTHING from rrr, auntA?

:grouphug: Our daughter was missing one time, so I know how it feels. But she was older and only missing for hours, not days. Turned out that she got sick after work and went to a co-worker's house to rest (it was closer to work than ours), but she was so sick she didn't wake up until the next day. Those were the most horrible hours of our lives.

[auntAgonist]

141. I have heard from her via PM's .. nothing

has changed. The police won't get any information from the cab company without a warrant and at this juncture it appears they are treating her daughter as a runaway rather than a 'missing person'!

RRR is just beside herself.

I don't think she'll mind my posting part of her last PM here ..

I think...I hope...that you're right and that she's okay, just afraid to come home. Things are going to work out...I won't let myself even consider anything else. It's just a question of when...

Until then, I've just gotta keep putting one foot in front of the other and trying everything I can think of. I've gotten more help from DUers than I ever thought was possible...support and people who are here for me emotionally and people who live close and are pushing buttons and doing research and trying everything they can to help us.

Hopefully some of those button pushers are able to do something for her.


aA
:hug:

[Fleshdancer]

144. how about hiring a detective?

at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we could pitch in to hire a detective. :shrug:

[auntAgonist]

149. I think if it comes to that ..

and I HOPE it doesn't, that might be a good idea.

thanks.

aA

[AirmensMom]

146. Thanks.

Please keep posting, even if there's nothing new to say. I'm glad so many people are able to push those buttons. Meanwhile, we must keep those positive vibes going strong.

I don't understand why it makes a difference if she's a runaway. She's missing and she's only 13 years old! Are any of those people parents? :banghead:

I'm sure rrr is beside herself. Thank you for sharing her PM. :hug: :grouphug: I hope this has a happy ending soon.

[reyd reid reed]

139. I'm just now getting to the Lounge...

I've been on the phone and e-mailing and...waiting.

Still nothing.

She doesn't have free access to a computer...I've checked the history and gone through the cookies and not found anything. She doesn't have a cell phone so nothing to be found there. I checked the log on mine, though. I got the number where I think she is from the redial on the land land...but that number's not working any more.

Her MySpace page gave me nothing, either. She hasn't logged on there since just after the 4th of July.

The police are doing nothing and no one believes in answering their phones on Monday. I've gotten some good information from some DUers and that's what's keeping me moving forward right now.

Every single one of you are incredible and I appreciate you all and your efforst on our behalf more than I can possibly express.

:grouphug:

:loveya:

[auntAgonist]

142. hi R!

I just responded to airmens mom above.

:hug:

we're still hanging in there for you.


:loveya:

aA

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

143. Have you considered posting her pic and name on your DU journal page,

so that it could be linked and sent to DUers and others in your area?

I would think there would be possible gain and little to lose from such a move at this point, especially if there is no news story or anything else at this point.

All we know at this point is that a 13 year old girl in Colorado Springs is missing. We don't even have a general description, that I've seen. :shrug:

I hope you hear something soon.

[Donailin]

148. Well, does she have an AIM account?

I dont know of a single teen that doesnt. Her AIM log would tell you plenty. May I ask if there was incident that prompted this? A fight?

I was a runaway when I was a kid, but I didnt leave for no apparent reason. There was a ongoing conflict in my home. . .

In any case, did she have access to the computer that you use or did she only use a computer at someone elses home? Have you contacted all her friends and friends parents? I had a runaway boy here last winter, very troubled young man who was a friend of my sons and had been missing for over a week. We got him to return home after much talking, and at one point I promised I wouldnt tell his parents where he was if he promised that within two days he would return home.

Lots of info missing here, hard to give advice without nowing more.

[AirmensMom]

150. Don't give up, rrr!

We're all with you, sending a huge dose of lounge vibes, positive thoughts, and prayers. :grouphug:

[RevCheesehead]

138. Hang in there, RRR.

You're in my prayers. :hug:

And if ya need to talk, just PM me.

[ulysses]

147. hope she turns up soon, rrr.

I can't even imagine...

[jollyreaper2112]

151. meeting someone from online

That's the only thing I can think of, or perhaps taking some time to be with someone she met in real life but that she thinks you might not approve of? I'm just trying to imagine likely scenarios.

[peacefreak]

152. Keeping you & your family in my thoughts.

Safe return for her & peace of mind for you.

[lvx35]

153. CAll the MAYOR and if you don't get results, call Glen Beck at CNN.

Glen Beck just ran a piece blasting him for a sentence where somebody got only two weeks for raping a disabled girl in the halls of the local high school. This mayor has political capital to gain by showing concern with this kind of thing, and lots to lose by not showing concern (he's running for congress, needs help in republican primaries.)

[auntAgonist]

154. kick

:kick:

[mcscajun]

155. Kick to keep this In Sight.

:kick:

[leftofthedial]

156. keeping it kicked

I'm sending all the mojo I can muster

I wish there was more I could do . . .

[cally]

157. Sending more good vibes

I hope she comes strolling in the door soon. I sometimes wonder how we survive parenthood. :hug:

[gizmonic]

158. Another K&R

Our thoughts are with you rrr.

:grouphug: :hug:

[jollyreaper2112]

159. is there a masterthread for this?

I'd like to keep up and see what the latest is. Hoping that this resolves happily.

[auntAgonist]

160. this is the most recent thread of all

there is one in General Discussion also.

aA

[jollyreaper2112]

164. no word?

I keep hoping I'm going to see an update on this one. With everything going to shit in the world at large, it'd be nice for at least one story to have a happy ending.

[Quakerfriend]

161. Dear rrr, prayers and protection for you daughter and you.

One thing, that I don't believe has been suggested:

call 1-800-THE-LOST the national center for 'missing' kids. This is the hotline for John Walsh, I believe.

Also, do consider hiring a PI. They are wonderful and can get places you would not believe. I hired a PI when my elderly mother was being swindled. This guy put the fear of god in these thugs and they ran off, never to be seen or heard from again. He helped us when the police, local judges, state reps, the elder abuse people and others did NOTHING.

Blessing going out to you constantly,dear.

[auntAgonist]

162. lets keep this going .. RRR appreciates all the good vibes.

We're hoping that her daughter will return safe and sound SOON.


aA
:hi:

[mzteris]

163. any feedback from

her son's friend's dad who's the policeman?

Are the authorities still doing nothing?

Why do I feel like I want to get on a plane, fly to CO springs and start knocking on people's doors???? (or maybe a few heads? and I'm a pacifist!)

There's got to be something she can do to make someone do something! Jeez louise - I canNOT believe the authorities aren't doing one damn thing.

:grr:

[mountainvue]

166. Please let me know if there is any way I

can help you in Denver, RRR.

[GalleryGod]

167. With all due respect...toss the candles and vibes..and get to a P. I. !

Like yesterday,dear !
A couple of grand invested, and this nightmare is O-ver!

[auntAgonist]

168. People are doing the best they can at this point.

Positive thoughts and good vibes let RRR know that she's got support here.

please don't negate that.

aA

[auntAgonist]

169. Here is the Latest Information I have ....

from RRR

So far nothing new. I'm back to waiting on phone calls. I'm on my way out in a few minutes to put out more flyers. And I've e-mailed the flyers to people all over town and talked to the people from beyondmissing this morning...and they're already working on it so I really am encouraged.

Now if people would just pick up the damned phone.

*sigh*

So, who knows what could be going on behind the scenes. Beyond Missing is working on things, that gives us some hope.

More when I have it. And thank you to all who are sending me messages and keeping this kicked.

aA
:grouphug:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

170. How about asking the mods to post her daughter's pic on the homepage?

If it's alright with RRR, of course.

It might not turn anything up; but then again, it can't hurt to try.

[auntAgonist]

171. I did send a PM

to Admin Skinner the other day , and so far I've not received any replies. I will try again later today though. I think this is of the utmost importance.

:grouphug:
thanks GoG.

aA

[GoddessOfGuinness]

172. Thanks aA!

You're really wonderful to coordinate RRR's support group here on DU! :hug:

[lavenderdiva]

173. Locking

Locking to avoid confusion. RRR's daughter, Sarah is home & safe.