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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:42 AM Original message |
Does anybody have a video link to Zidane's head butting? |
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HarveyBrooks (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yup |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. I couldn't believe it |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I couldn't believe they allowed the Italian to hold him with both arms. |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. Here |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. French media report that the Italian player called him a terrorist. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. And sadly, Zidane took the bait |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. being pacifist, and good sportmanship. everyone should equally |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Not to defend Zidane but the instigator should have been booted too. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Because insulting another player is not an infraction to the rules. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. i think holding his arms like that is, though. and i am not a soccer |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I have not seen these part. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:13 AM Original message |
it is clearly on video provided by poster one or two... leading up |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
48. cheating is for the refs to deal with.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. i was clear in my post...... never said assault warranted. did i? n/t |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. But holding someone with both arms is an infraction of the rules. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. But's that's *at most* a foul. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Maybe because taunts don't cause, you know, actual injuries? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. exactly. that guy was breaking rules all over the place. clearly |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
61. The Italian guy did not commit battery |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. no he didnt. nor did i suggest he did. yawl come on my post |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Cause no official heard it |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. The ref didn't see the head butt happen either... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thanks. I had not seen that part. |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. A witness who is an official |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. What if he heard the comment, does that matter? |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Sure it matters |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Nope. Doesn't matter at all. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Suppose a White player used the "N" word against a Black player. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. So? They're all big boys. |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Bingo |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Do we actually know that he said it? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. As I said, it was reported in the French media. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. So, we are taking the head-butter at his word? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Well a French arab can only be a liar, of course. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. It seems that it is a he-said, he-said |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Thanks for sharing that with us, but racist remarks need to be addressed, |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Do we know if any racist remarks were made? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Algerian, and Italy has a long history with Imperialism/war in N. Africa. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. This isn't political. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Oh, come on, you know cowardbigots always make their taunts on the record. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. So we are assuming that the Italian is guilty becasue the type of offence |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. No, we're not assuming innocence because the remarks were unrecorded. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Talking crap isn't grounds for a red card. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Regardless of whether he said it or not |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Exactly. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. In the NFL and NBA |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Why should the instigator have been booted? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. he was holding arms ... penalty. cant be thrown out of game |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Well, there was lots of holding going on throughout the match |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. What? Everybody holds in football. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. didnt know this. as i say, i dont watch soccer. jsut saw the obvious |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Holding is a penalty in most team sports |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. in our house watching football, we all call holding each and everytime |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Exactly... |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. The asshole didn't get away with it - Zidane got booted. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. Ala Woody Hayes, Zidane wipes out a career of achievement with one act. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No he does not. He will remain one of the best players of his generation |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. And yet the first association made with him |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. It's how he will be remembered.(eom) |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. May be in this country. Not in the rest of the world and certainly not |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. How do you remember O.J. ? Great football player? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. He was accused of killing his wife . Nothing to do with anything. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. And that's how you remember O.J..Get my point? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. LOL - If you want. I disagree and only time will tell. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. And he won the Golden Boot |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
74. That's right. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Didn't Woody Hayes have lots of acts leading up to the ultimate incident |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Yes, Woody did |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Woody assaulted an opposing player after he had intercepted a pass. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. He attacked a player on the SIDELINES, as well. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. "sidelines". |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Few remembers any of Fatty Arbuckle's films |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
24. Thats terrible. And Barbaro was such a nice little pony too |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
40. The Italian probably called him a Liberal Loser... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I think he yelled. "Freedom fries!" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. Eh, it's soccer. |
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Kellanved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
76. Here's a video with more details |
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