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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:16 PM
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need Advice from DU string players
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 03:17 PM by Cheswick
I am thinking of the time when my voice is gone and I still want to make music. I have been wanting to start talking lesson on either the violin or viola. Are they about the same in degree of difficulty? Are new players going to sound equally horrid no matter which they choose?
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:31 PM
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1. viola doesn't sound as horrible
in the beginning because of the lower clef.
guitar gives you almost instant musical gratification.
a combo of violin and guitar is my recommendation: both treble clef instruments, one screechy and one mellow. the ease of the guitar will help you put up with the violin scales and precision finger placement and bowing exercises.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 10:44 PM
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5. right now I can only afford one instrument and a used one at that
you have given me something to think about. I used to play guitar when I was a kid... and violin too. I never got very good at either because I did not practice. Singing always came very easily so that is what I did.
Is Viola bass clef? Or is that treble clef too. I am embarrased to say I don't know.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:36 PM
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2. I used to play the cello
And I really miss it. I think that if you are drawn to the strings, you should give it a try. I'm sure you won't be horrid - far from it. Just give it a try. I'm excited to hear how it goes for you. :hi:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 10:47 PM
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7. I am going on the theory that a cello will be more
money.
My sister used to play cello. It is a very beautiful instrument. Did you ever hear the cello duet in Tosca? I think it is between the 2nd and 3rd acts. It gives me chills.
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:37 PM
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3. Fancy Fiddling
People who don't have the patience for violin can still learn how to fiddle. I used to take a fiddle out on a rowboat in the middle of Lake Merritt in Oakland. No neighbors to squawk about the wolf tones.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 10:50 PM
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8. I love fiddle music
we have a fairly active bluegrass community around here. Do you still play?
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:44 PM
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4. Why would your voice go, though?
Just make sure you keep taking lessons so you don't do bad things to it. But look at the age of some of the still-active top vocalists - Samuel Ramey is like 61 and he's still very active. Pete Seeger's voice went, but he was in his mid-70's r so when that happened, and he may have been abusing things a bit. Just don't do a Maria Callas and you should be good for quite a time, unless you're already in your 70's. On the other hand, any of violin, viola, or cello would be fun. Only thing I can think of is that solo rep is more limited for the lower pitched instruments, and the orchestral parts are usually easier.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 10:52 PM
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9. I am in my forties
I don't expect my voice to go too soon. I think it will take me about 15 years to be a decent string player and that is about the time no one will want to hear me sing anymore. We mezzo do tend to get wobbly sounding eventually.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 10:45 PM
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6. Where's Goddess of Guiness when ya need her?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 10:54 PM
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10. I don't think I have seen her in a few days
yeah, where is she?
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 11:35 PM
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11. Viola is much more difficult on your body
take it from me- I can't play anymore

violas are sometimes 3-4 inches longer than a violin- although that doesn't sound like a lot, it makes a huge difference. In order to avoid carpal tunnel, tendinitis, and pain in general- go with the violin. At the beginning you'll sound crappy anyway :-)
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 05:44 AM
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12. really? Interesting
thanks for the advice. I am thinking I will probably sound crappy for several years and then just kind of elementary. I do hope to sound halfway decent by about 2008 or so.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:35 AM
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13. The key to playing the violin is accepting the fact
that you WILL sound crappy for a little while, but it probably will NOT be several years. You have to lose your fear of hitting a bad note (everybody does it, and the world does not end when it happens) and remember that the thumb on your bow hand is doing the driving.

A horsehair bow (NOT nylon) is absolutely essential and a quality instrument will give you a deeper, more expressive tone. Good luck and try not to watch "The Red Violin;" it will give you the creeps!

Cheers,
:hi:
dbt
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