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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:13 PM
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Poll question: In What Foreign Language Would You Like To Be Able To Speak Fluently?
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 05:19 PM by arwalden
... and why?
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:14 PM
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1. Spanish.
I live in Texas, so it is a very practical language to know.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:16 PM
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2. In? IN?
The ending preposition is redundant and superfluous in this case.
For shame.
:-(
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:18 PM
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8. Oh Dear!
:hi:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:28 PM
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17. Dear Allen:
You don't need the "In".
Period.
Back OR front.
"What foreign language would you like to be able to speak fluently?"
honestly
:-)
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:44 PM
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25. For that matter
"be able to" is superfluous.

"What foreign language would you like to speak fluently?" suffices.

Of course, for absolute propriety, it'd be "What foreign language would you like to fluently speak?"

Of course, you could substitute "In what foreign language would you like to be fluent?"



Dog, I need help...

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:19 PM
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41. Very good. Succinct and to the point.
I'm glad we had this talk.
;-)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:16 PM
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3. I'm In Love With All Things German...
so that would be my first choice. My 2nd choice would probably be Spanish... just to be able to communicate with many people I interact with on a regular basis.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:16 PM
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4. Chinese, i love the phonetics, the sounds of the lang; plus we had...
better get hip to the culture imo
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:19 PM
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9. I'm slowly learning it from my wife
Hopefully, we'll move there in the future, too.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:20 PM
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12. i find China & Chinese culture fasinating...
:hi:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:39 PM
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22. I just figure
I just figure that if my daughter wanted to learn a musical instrument, or take kung fu lessons, we can do it there for a fraction of the cost - my wife's old boss recently relocated his family (wife, 4 kids, all 6 of them American, though he was born in France) to Shanghai from Massachusetts. One of their kids decided to learn piano and they have a teacher come to their house for $5/hour... that is come to their home to teach for $5/hour. And, my daughter would pick up 2 languages... and learn 2 cultures.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:09 PM
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35. now that is a plan...
:-)
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:39 PM
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23. delete - dupe post
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 05:48 PM by NewJeffCT
nt
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:07 PM
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33. Same here, love the history and lore as well
Beautiful language as well, not fluent (gotten a wee rusty after breakup with my ex) yet but hope to be there someday.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:08 PM
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34. indeed so, cheers...
:toast:
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:21 PM
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42. xie xie
:toast:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:16 PM
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60. Not on the normal tour, but
I would highly recommend a stop in Nanjing if you ever make it China. Definitely a very attractive city - many of the main roads are lined with trees, a rare sight in a city in China. Plus, they have the Nanjing massacre memorial, as well as the tomb of Dr. Sun Yat-Sen (the founder of "modern China" - the tentative leader of the Chinese Republic after the fall of the Last Emperor), and now a brand new subway system. And, the city wall around Nanjing is actually bigger than the Great Wall, though only about 1/100 as long.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:20 PM
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63. did you ever learn about...
Da shi qinq, ma shi ai?

Or, was it not serious enough?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:17 PM
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5. The language of redundancy
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:17 PM
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6. And what happened to Pig Latin?
Hunh?
HUNH?
jeez
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:18 PM
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7. Other: Catalan (or maybe Euskadi)
I'm a Spain-o-Phile, and I already speak so-so Castillian. I'd like to learn Catalan (the language of Catalonia) or Euskadi, the language of the Basque people-- which has no known language relative.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:05 PM
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56. I had a Chem Prof that spoke Euskadi
He learned it while researching medieval alchemical books.

I tried to get him to teach me but he turned me down. - Why? - he said - It's not a language; it's a throat disease. :shrug:

Oh well, Gallego or Catalan are good choices, and very close to Castellano. If you want some samplings of Catalan, search for Joan Manuel Serrat; he sings in Catalan. For Gallego, there's Susana Seivane and Carlos Nuñez.

Adelante!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:06 PM
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104. A lot of the music I listen to is in Calo or Catalan
The flamenco rumba music of northern Spain and southern France is usually in Catalan, with liberal sprinklings of Calo (the Romany language of Iberia). The Gipsy Kings, for example, sing mostly in a "gypsified" Catalan spoken around their hometown of Arles, France. I speak enough Spanish and French to figure out most of it, and the pronunciations are similar enough. :)
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:19 PM
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10. Gaelic.
We're working on it, but we are far far far from fluent.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:52 PM
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30. Which one?
Irish, I would assume by your avatar. They also speak Gaelic in Scotland, Wales, Brittany (in France) and (believe it or not) in northwestern Spain, too. Thankfully they're all similar enough to be mutually intelligible, too. :D
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:59 PM
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31. Both Mr. kt and I are 50%Scottish and50% Irish... so Irish or Scottish!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:11 PM
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105. I'm about 1/4 Scottish myself
but my clan is lowlands (or "lallans", as its spelled in Scots). I would like to learn how to speak it eventually, as it is undergoing a bit of a revival recently. In fact, there's even a Wikipedia in Scots now, as well as a website for the preservation of Lallans speech. Interesting stuff!
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:33 AM
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124. Frisian would do you good with both.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:00 PM
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134. (ahem) Pedant Alert!
Living Celtic languages are usually divided into 2 groups. Goidelic includes Irish (which is called Gaelic by those who wish to deny that Irish is the true language of Ireland), Scots Gaelic (brought to Pictland by Irish then called "Scots") & (revived) Manx. Brythonic includes Welsh, Breton & (revived) Cornish. Yes, I used Wikipedia to refresh my memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languages

According to Wiki, Gallego (Galicia/Northwestern Spain) belongs to the "Western Ibero Romance" family--in the same family as Spanish, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallego

But the Gallegos are sometimes considered a "Celtic" people. Inspired amateur Bob Quinn has a different take on the "Celtic" business; he speaks of the Atlantean peoples. That is, cultures living on the Atlantic seaboard & Islands of Europe, linked for thousands of years. NOTHING to do with Atlantis! He extends the area of influence north to Scandinavia--no surprise! And South to Morocco & into the Mediterranean. (My long-ago Medieval lit class mentioned the Egyptian roots of early Irish monasticism. But I never bothered to ask--how did this happen?) Quinn also sees non-"Celtic" influences in Irish; he does speak it.
www.lilliputpress.ie/listbook.html?oid=2733139

Time to get out those Irish tapes. I know English (no surprise), a fair amount of Spanish, a bit of Latin & traces of German. Therefore, I can at least see the patterns in many other Indo-European languages. Irish has me stymied. But it also stymied JRR Tolkien, so I don't feel so bad.


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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:12 PM
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135. Welsh and Breton and Cornish are Celtic, not Gaelic.
I'm not so sure Irish and Scottish are THAT intelligible to speakers of the Celtic languages, either, though there are similarities....
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:23 PM
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145. I learnt a smattering from books and tapes, but it got too hard after a
bit. :(
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:19 PM
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11. French
When my ass FINALLY makes it to Canada, it will come in handy (not necessarily in Ontario, but it would be just nice to have)
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:23 PM
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13. Other: Lakota....
...only know a few words so far....
:hide:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:36 PM
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67. Hats off
I think it's a wonderful idea. I know a few words of Mexica (Aztec), but want to learn more as well.

:hi:
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:49 PM
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96. I hope I am spelling this right...is 'mitakuye oyasin' Lakota?
I was told it means "we are all relatives."
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:24 PM
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14. Russian
I just love the sound of Russian. My SO and I have a habit of breaking into atrociously bad Russian accents (usually while playing board games - not sure why) - I'd love to be able to throw some actual words in there.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:29 PM
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44. Da, tovaritch
That's about the extent of my Russian, but I think my accent is pretty good, personally. I tought myself to read cyrillic in about 8 hours though, so you might give that a try. I'd definately like to learn the language soon though.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:38 PM
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47. That's cool, how'd you learn?
Online or from a book or what? It's just a great language, IMO. And your accent is fantastic, at least in this form. :P
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:49 PM
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52. From these:
http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/alphabet.html

A list of real Russian words and figures which have an english equivalent, and clues to help you figure them out.

http://www.friends-partners.org/oldfriends/language/russian-alphabet.html

A plain old list of cyrillic letters and the sounds they make. I probably couldn't write very well at this point, but the reading is ok. A few weeks ago my Russian politics and society prof pulled out an old, old map of all the nationalities and ethnicities of the USSR written in Russian. I was able to read at the top of the map, if I recall correctly, "Sohoz Sovietiki Socialistika Republiki", or in Russian the ol' CCCP. It's also come in pretty handy in interpreting the inscriptions on the old Russian/Soviet military medals and badges I have in my collection. For instance, I was able to read the word "Descentnik" on the paratrooper badge, which translates into "one who falls", which I guess is the word for paratroopers. Stuff like that is pretty cool.

If you sit down with those two links for a couple of evenings I'll bet you get pretty good at it.
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:43 PM
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71. that's fantastic!!!
but what if you want to write a note to a russian friend in cyrillic? is that possible? i tried copying and pasting russian cyrillic words and e-mailing them to my russian girlfriend and when she got them, they were gibberish. weird.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:06 PM
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77. I've never tried copying and pasting from that site
I know your computer needs special programs for other alphabets, however.

Personally, I can't write anything original in Russian. Basically, at this point, I can read their words aloud. Hopefully I'll improve that situation in the near future.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:46 PM
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51. I dated one.
I used to love it when he'd speak to me in Russian. I used to ask him to read to me in Russian just because I loved the sound so much.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:25 PM
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15. I'm of French descent and I think it's a bummer
that we lose the languages of our ancestors.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:27 PM
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16. Greek because I have some friends who speak it
Also French and German would be cool.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:28 PM
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18. Spanish and Thai
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:27 PM
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66. Unusual combination. Kudos!
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 07:27 PM by Xipe Totec
I love people who love to challenge themselves! :thumbsup:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:00 PM
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72. I have very selfish reasons for both
Spanish because it is such a common language, and Thai because Thai is my mother in law's native tongue.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:13 PM
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81. Then you are blessed
I too am blessed to have many members of my extended family marry into other cultures. Pakistani, Philippino, Belgian, Italian, the list goes on. To me it is magical to link disparate clans of the human family. To say, thow art kin. It always brings a lump to my throat.

I am sure your mother in law would be honored if you spoke even a few words of Thai to her. It would mean so much. :thumbsup:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:36 PM
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19. Fransch
Eet ees ze language uff love, mon ami, and zis is why I haff shozen eet. (Don't I have un accent magnifique? Is it not tres, tres chic?)

:yoiks:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:37 PM
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20. l'italiano
parlo molto male :-(
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:39 PM
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21. Other: Japanese.
So I can watch my favorite movies in the original language. ;)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:45 PM
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26. Osaka...
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:43 PM
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24. Italian, Spanish, AND French.
I took Spanish classes from 7th grade through freshman year at college, and my knowledge of Spanish helps with my understand of both Italian and French.

I'd love to be fluent in all three languages.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:45 PM
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27. Well, seeing as how I already have a BA in French......
I'd love love love to be truly fluent in it!

:woohoo:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:42 PM
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69. Go for it, Peggy!
Set your goal and just start working on it.

I'm restarting my Russian this Summer after a long hiatus. My oldest son, who is a native Russian, has agreed to spend the summer practicing with me, as soon as we take our final exams (we're enrolled in graduate computer science together). Going to get a copy of Bulgakhov's "The Master and Margarita" in Russian and just go!

There are so many good choices for you in French; I'd love to read Victor Hugo in the original French.

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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:46 PM
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28. Spanish, because once you learn it it's easier to learn Italian
i know a few words, but besides that i don't speak it. i taking a course though.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 05:48 PM
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29. Spanish
Russian and/or German would be the most fun to me, but Spanish will get me a lot farther.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:02 PM
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32. Spanish
I really really really want to go to Central and South America, and knowing Spanish would open a LOT of doors.

Also, the European county I most want to visit is Spain. :D
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:09 PM
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36. Chinese because few people in the US can
speak it. I'd love to be able to read it as well.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:17 PM
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61. speaking is a lot easier
No tenses, so it makes it a bit easier to learn in the long run. Reading & writing is a whole different story.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:10 PM
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37. I don't really want to speak Thai. But it looked sad& lonely w/o any votes
I took pity on the Thai language and gave it my only affirmation. I hope Thai can sleep soundly tonight knowing that it's a little more loved tonight.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:08 PM
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142. Thai would be fun for traveling to Thailand
I've known several people who lived in Thailand in the Peace Corps or as exchange students, and they all say that the language is easy to learn once you get around the pronunciation.

Personally, I'd like to round out my Asian languages by studying Korean.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:15 PM
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38. Spanish
I live in LA, it's our unofficial 2nd language.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:17 PM
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39. Swedish and Norwegian
So I could go visit the land of my ancestors.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:18 PM
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40. You mean Minnesota?
;-)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:29 PM
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45. My great grandparents lived in Wisconsin for awhile
I wonder if there are still pockets of society there where Scandinavian languages are still used a lot. :D
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:21 PM
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64. My grandmother moved into the Augustana senior home in the mid 80's
I'm sure they used scandinavian languages there. The place was packed with Ladies between 80 and 100, walking down the hall you could tell the ethnicity of the person in each apartment by the "Colors" displayed on their rosmal and Dala horses. Predominately Red with small amounts of blue and white meant Norwegians, Blue and Yellow were Swedes, Blue with red and white trim was Icelanders. and the red and white were Danes.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:24 PM
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87. That's great!
My great-grandmother, whom we called Nana, spoke almost entirely in Swedish in her later years. She would have loved a place like that...
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:59 AM
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121. Hey!
:)

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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:25 PM
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43. French, but....
If I were fluent in Spanish, MAYBE I could buy and read a magazine at the grocery store in the neighborhood I have lived in for 30 years. This is America goddammit, why can't I stand in the checkout line and read headlines about Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes in fucking ENGLISH?????
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:24 PM
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65. Don't know, but...
I grew up on the border (the other side), and the only TV stations available were in English. I leaned English by watching Uncle Walter on the CBS evening news, Gun smoke, and of course, Star Trek. I am so grateful for that early exposure to English. My siblings are younger and there was Spanish TV by then. Sure, they speak English now, but their accent is horrendous.

Dude, take full advantage of the opportunity. If you are immersed in another culture, by all means sponge it in.

Now I'm working on learning Russian. Why? for the sheer challenge of it. I want to speak five languages fluently before I die. After Russian I'll try Arabic and then Chinese (French and German are too close to Spanish and English to make them truly challenging).

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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:30 PM
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101. La invasión trae muchas oportunidades para el crecimiento lingüístico
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:37 PM
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46. It's a Toss-up
Either French (because I think it's beautiful and expressive), or Chinese (because of the undoubted financial benefits of being able to speak it in the next few years)...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:39 PM
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48. Dutch so I can emmigrate if need be.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:45 PM
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50. No need
98% of Dutch people speak English. The school system requires 3 languages besides their own from about age 8 on through the rest of school. (Or did, my nieces are out of school for quite some time now)

What you'll need to emigrate to the Netherlands are some super skill sets or a Dutch spouse. They love visitors but make it very hard to live there.

(I have a Dutch husband)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:56 PM
Original message
True but i think they're implementing a language requirement,
and 'tho I may not qualify for legal status we have family there who'd probably be too polite not to help (this fantasy escape is only necessary if there's a draft & my girls are eligible).
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:03 PM
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74. Can you live there on an EEC passport?
Because I have one.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:32 AM
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123. I don't know. Your local consulate should be able to tell you
What I do know is that if my husband should decide to return 'home', I would run into difficulties being able to go with him despite the fact that we've been married 32 years.

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:45 PM
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49. I dated a Russian.
I would love to know if those really were terms of endearment or if he was calling me some really nasty names during intimate moments.

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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:36 PM
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68. I am in love with a Russian now...
and i wonder the same thing!!! :-)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:43 PM
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70. I love Russian men.
I just hope that he was always telling me that I was beautiful and the best thing ever.

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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:05 PM
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75. I love Russian women.
And, just my luck, there are many "who want to meet me NOW!"

Russian is a very complicated language, though. First of all, it has three genders.... and it gets worse from there.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:07 PM
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78. Andre tried to teach me a bit many years ago
but I was young and interested in "other things".

And I'd bet the price will be high to meet the Russian women!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:15 PM
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82. no price is too high!
I dated a Russian-Canadian right after my marriage ended. She was lovely.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:17 PM
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83. He was rather lovely too.
I should have moved w/ him when he asked me to all those years ago.

Sweet, intelligent, sexy, hardworking, romantic-I look back now and realize how dumb I was to let him go.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:22 PM
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86. and strong!
I know a few Russian women, and the first trait I've noticed in each of them is their strength and independence. It's all those beets, I think.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:35 PM
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90. Could be.
He was a very strong man-used to take on odd jobs working as a roofer, landscaping, etc.

I'm a strong-willed woman. Looking back I realize that he was the only man I've ever known who really appreciated me for that reason. He used to tell me that he didn't want a woman who would just sit down and take whatever came her way-he wanted a woman who would go kicking and screaming to the end. He liked people who were well-read and not afraid to voice their opinions in public or in private.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:16 PM
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137. And you let this kick-ass dude go...WHY??
:D :D

:hi:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:41 PM
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141. I was young and stupid.
He wanted to move to another state and I didn't want to at the time.
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Alleycat Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:56 PM
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53. The sound of french is so melodic
however I believe Spanish would be much more useful. I took both for two years in HS but since I didn't continue to use them in everyday life I only can speak limited phrases.
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:59 PM
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54. Elvish...
...especially Sindar...
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:09 PM
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57. Elvish Lives!
:evilgrin:
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:03 PM
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55. I took Chinese but if I could have two, I'd add Spanish.
If China doesn't face the future with more intelligence I would probably go for Spanish first and visit Venezuela.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:11 PM
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58. I'm in my 4th Quarter
of American Sign Language. And yes, it is considered a foreign language.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:16 PM
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59. French
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:19 PM
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62. Female, because it would save me a lot of time that I spend arguing
with the old lady...
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:02 PM
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73. Japanese is fascinating.
I'd love to learn Japanese. I even have an instructional set of tapes, but I'm too intimidated.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:06 PM
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76. Yiddish.
Unfortunately, my grandparents are dead so, unless I learn it and do some traveling, it wouldn't make much difference anyway. '(
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:21 PM
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85. Makes no difference that they are dead
They are still with you, and within you. Just as my kin are with me always, the dead more so than those still alive.

By all means, learn Yiddish. You will understand your grandparents so much better and will, if you wish, converse with that part of them that remains within you.



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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:01 AM
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131. Thank you for your kind words of uplift and support.
You're right.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:08 PM
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79. Swedish
I think I may go to grad schools for swedish history.
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:10 PM
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80. Portuguese or Swedish n/t
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:19 PM
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84. Mexican
just like Bush**! :evilgrin:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:34 PM
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89. Not Mexican, Mexica
But * speaks neither Castillian, nor Mexica, not English for that matter.

TUCULA CASQUINA MINECU. (Greetings, what does your heart say?)

- Xipe





:evilgrin:
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:26 PM
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88. French so I could blow this fundy filled conservative shithole.
I'm about done. I don't even like most of the Dems in this fuckwit nation.

Done.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:35 PM
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91. Other: Portuguese.
Oh, wait...
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:40 PM
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92. S'cuse me, but Brazilians don't speak Portuguese
They make love to it.

:evilgrin:

I used to watch the "Favelas" on Mexican TV, and just
fall in love with any actress speaking portuguese with a Brazilian accent. :loveya:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:41 PM
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93. !y
tu comnprende!

!viva chavez!
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:46 PM
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94. I voted French, just because I think it's a beautiful language and I know
it's difficult to get the accent down; but honestly, I'd love to be able to speak multiple languages. I speak OK basic Spanish but have always wanted to learn LOTS!
Worked on Koine Greek for a while, still do when I have the time, which isn't often...

Being able to speak another language is a little like magic, I always thought.:bounce:

:pals: Allen, how are you?? Happy Spring!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:49 PM
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95. the 'international' language
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:59 AM
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112. Esperanto?
:shrug:
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:50 PM
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97. Proto-Indo-European language
Just for sheer nerdiness.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:02 AM
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116. Lithuanian and Sanskrit are the closest you're gonna get to that!
Reconstructing PIE words sounds fun, thoough

You'll find this Wiki page interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_and_the_god
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:43 AM
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119. Thanks for the link, most interesting
:)
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gkdmaths Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:51 PM
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98. Inuit and any of the
Norse languages.


Something about the challenge of high latitudes that turns me on. :shrug:
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:06 PM
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99. Italian
Because I hope to visit there someday. It would be nice to speak the language when visiting with distance relatives.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:08 PM
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100. Italian and Portuguese
Two of the most beautiful sounding languages ever. :)
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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:36 PM
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102. Arabic and Urdu
Arabic because it is the language of the country I live in, and I never saw myself as the kind of person who would live in a country and not try to learn the language. But everyone here speaks English, and those Arabic lessons were hard! So I know about twenty or so words.

Urdu because that's what most of the service people here speak fluently, and it would make my life easier. I have a friend who acts as an interpreter, but he isn't around all the time. Once again I know about twenty words in Urdu, not including food names. (I like sada chai but masala chai is better)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:00 PM
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103. all
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:23 PM
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106. Mandarin, I'm sure that will please our future CHinese overlords. n/t
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:26 PM
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107. I can read French, Latin, Italian, and Spanish
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 11:27 PM by Zenzic
Quite fluently.

Speaking it is another thing. I had to go to speech therapy from 1982 to 2000. I took French one year, Latin 4, Italian 2, and Spanish one all for classes.

I was reading a French Magazine,after not taking French for 10 years and I understood everything that was said in the magazine, and even spoke the French that was on the cover, despite not having spoken it in 10 years, and my sister who's taken French for 20 years (she's 27 right now) just looked at me and said, "That was a really good French accent you did there." (I've been told the French spoke nasally.)

I really do think it's due to Latin.. it's the mother of all romance languages.

I don't know about speaking but I feel that just reading it is a whole new level. I personally haven't learned how to lipread in other languages but if I can get someone (sister, cousins, etc) that knows the language, I'll be ok.

I had to take spanish for one straight year (Sept 2004 to August 2005) so it's kind of stuck with me for the time being.

In other words, I can't do conversational languages but I can write it out. I do know another deaf girl who's from Switzerland and she knows 3 different languages but can't lipread some of them without the use of a method (that I like to call the anti-ASL).

It's interesting.
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:28 PM
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108. German
would be my first choice, just because I used to speak it fairly well so it would probably be easy to pick back up. I'm lazy.

Spanish would be my second choice because it would be practical.

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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:31 PM
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109. Klingon
Because I am a Star Trek geek, or Gaelic because I am 1 generation from Ireland.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:59 AM
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125. nuQneH !
To my eternal shame I can speak conversational Klingon, I used to play an online Star Trek game and ended up picking up the lingo in my reasearches into Klingon culture.

It's a bit of a jaw-cracker and you'll need a spit-guard if you want to practice. You're supposed to speak it like a Klingon warrior so it's quite good fun if you like bellowing and shouting in a rather operaic manner.

Try the Klingon Academy online beginner course at the Klingonska Academien

It's a Swedish site with dual English and Swedish pages.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:46 AM
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110. Swedish. I've been trying to learn.
It's a stuggle.

I am of Swedish heritage, and I have several Swedish friends. So I have been trying to take it up for a year now. It's pretty fucking hard. Do you really need nine vowels? Come on!

I need to step it up a bit and learn quicker, just in case the White House goes neo-con again in 2008.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:04 AM
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122. Try this
Nordöstersjökustartilleriflygspaningssimulatoranläggningsmaterielunderhållsuppföljningssystemdiskussionsinläggsförberedelsearbeten.


As everyone knows it simply means; "preparatory work on the contribution to the discussion on the maintaining system of support of the material of the aviation survey simulator device within the north-east part of the coast artillery of the Baltic", in English.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:48 AM
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133. That's a word????
I quit. No more, can't take ANY MORE!!!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:48 AM
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111. Norwegian...
cause i'm part norwegian...but in all honesty, learning spanish would serve a better purpose, cause that language would be a useful tool, in the ever changing landscape of America...
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:01 AM
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113. French
not only is it a beautiful language, I'd love to know what they're saying on the telly (I get a few French stations)...

or Ukrainian. (which is my ancestry)
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:44 AM
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114. I live in Southern California -- Fluent Spanish might be helpful. n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:50 AM
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115. portugese
so I could converse with the most beautiful woman I ever met in her own language.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:04 AM
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117. All of them
It always bums me out when there is a person with whom I cannot communicate.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:09 PM
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144. Greedy bastard.
:P

You can always go for the "Sky at Night" method, when you find that you can't speak the language of the person whom you're interviewing switch into dodgy pigeon-French....
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:09 AM
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118. Norweigian, Chinese, Ancient Greek, and Classical Latin
Norwegian because of my ancestry

Chinese for usefulness

Greek and Latin so I can read the untranslated works of classical playwrights, poets, and intellectuals and because they are inportant in scientific vocabulary
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:16 AM
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132. *BUMP*
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:17 PM
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138. Yeah, but he said SPEAK.
Trust me, you DON'T wanna speak Latin.

:scared:

:D :D
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:56 AM
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120. Spanish.
I took it in high school. I need to learn more.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:02 AM
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126. I'd like to brush up on my French, German and pick up Dutch, Danish &
another Romance language.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:08 AM
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127. Amerei essere spedito nell'italiano.
Il mio desiderio è visitare che bene il paese e spende del tempo di qualità lí.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:20 AM
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128. I should be able to speak Spanish fluently since I only took 7 years of
it in school. Alas, hablo solo poquito Espanol. :cry:
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tonekat Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:28 PM
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148. After 6 years of that ALM Spanish in school...
...all I can say is "se me olvido el cuaderno en la biblioteca"
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:26 AM
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129. I took 5 years of Spanish, but can barely order from a menu.
I would like to be more fluent.

or Russian, so I can figure out what my neighbors are saying about me. :)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:27 AM
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130. Esperanto
Then everyone could understand me.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:14 PM
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136. Other: Irish Gaelic.
It's such a...a..a... RAW sound! Not to mention I'm obsessed with the Celts!

:toast:
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tonekat Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:26 PM
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147. My S.O. is in a small Scottish Gaelic class...
..they finally found a good teacher who comes and instructs them every other week, so now they are making some progress.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:04 PM
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139. Chinese
I'd love to speak Chinese so that I could speak it to my daughter (adopted from China 2 and a half years ago) and she would grow up with a knowledge of the language of her birth country.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:18 PM
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140. Chinese, they fuck'n own us.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:08 PM
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143. I've got a little list.
Latin, Italian, Old Slavonic, Serbo-Croat, Russian, Glagolitic, Malayalam, Syriac.

3 of those because they'd be useful in trying to pull some of the most gorgeous men on the planet - the others for somewhat more exalted purposes. :eyes:
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146. Italian, because it's so beautiful and because I want to go there.
And hi there, BTW. :hi:
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149. Spanish, without a doubt. n/t
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