Don't lie

[Shell Beau]

You used to like Tom Cruise! :rofl:






I know I did! I loved Top Gun, Cocktail, Days of Thunder, Jerry McGuire... And that is okay, how were we to know? :shrug:

[kid a]

1. Cocktail?

[Shell Beau]

2. Yes, now, I was young and probably shouldn't have even

been watching it, but I loved it!!! It wasn't an OScar worthy movie for sure, but it was entertaining!!

[1gobluedem]

36. I confess

I liked Cocktail too. :blush: And I liked Tom Cruise in Rainman.

But I sure can't stand him now.

[Ava]

3. I didn't

as a matter of fact, i like him better now than i did then. :shrug:

Jerry McGuire is one of my least favorite movies of all time.
"You had me at hello"


PUHLEEZE! :eyes:

[Shell Beau]

5. Okay, but were you around for the others?

[Ava]

7. i wasn't around for some of them,

but i've seen a lot of his movies. i haven't seen Days of Thunder or Cocktail though

[taterguy]

4. Risky Business had its moments

1) Who's the U-boat commander?
2) Sometimes ya just gotta say: What the Fuck
3) Prominent use of Muddy Waters on the soundtrack
4) Looks like it's University of Illinois

[Shell Beau]

6. How did I forget that one?

[Left Is Write]

51. What about...

being chased by Guido The Killer Pimp? :D

[billyskank]

8. I thought Top Gun was kinda cool

when I was 12.

[Shell Beau]

9. Me too!! That is when I remember watching it!!

:P

[billyskank]

11. Let's play a game.

How many Tom Cruise films can you fit into the same plot line? I'll start.

Top Gun. Tom plays a fighter pilot. He's a pretty good fighter pilot. He has a crisis of confidence. He meets a girl, who teaches him to be the best fighter pilot he can be.

Days of Thunder. Tom plays a racing driver. He's a pretty good racing driver. He has a crisis of confidence. He meets a girl, who teaches him to be the best racing driver he can be.

Any more? :)

[Shell Beau]

21. Aren't they all that way? I can think of only one movie where he

plays the villian. His range of acting only goes so far! :P

[amitten]

42. Here ya go:

Real life. Tom plays a Scientologist. He's a pretty good Scientologist. He has a crisis of confidence and experiences a brief dose of reality. He meets a girl, who teaches him nothing but launches him into a whole new realm of super-crazy. :tinfoilhat:

[billyskank]

44. I don't think he's acting that one

;)

[tjwmason]

45. Yes but

For a typical 12 year-old boy it could have been anybody at all in actual acting positions - it was all about the aeroplanes (that's 'airplanes' for Americans). I can still remember talking about it at prep school - I don't think that any of my class-mates had noticed the male (or even female) actors, only the fact that lots of fast planes were flying around shooting at each other.

Or to put it another way - as for liking Tom Cruise ego te absolve

[LSK]

10. i cant wait for Mission Impossible 3

(not really, just saying to aggitate all the Tom Cruise phobia going on here)

:hide:

[Shell Beau]

12. Eeew! I have never even seen the first 2. The last

Tom Cruise movie I watched was Collateral.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

13. I acutally liked Minority Report.

I liked the concept behind the story.
"Precrime. It works!" :scared:

[billyskank]

16. What I couldn't get

was how this programme was going to be rolled out all over the country and cut crime everywhere, when it was dependent on three poor saps who happened to be born with an extraordinary ability?

I would say their system doesn't scale well.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

19. I just assumed they'd find more precogs.

But you're right, they didn't really mention how the three precogs would be
able to cover the entire nation. Especially since they were located in Washington D. C.

Or maybe the precogs would have gone insane from the sheer overload of murderous thoughts
and started psychically tearing up the country a la "Carrie". :shrug:

[no name no slogan]

28. There were more precogs in the book version

The precogs were genetic mutants who occurred somewhat frequently in the population. Also, they were much less "human"-like in the book, too, and looked almost alien.

Otherwise the movie was pretty true to the original story, which can be found in a number of Philip K. Dick anthologies.

[billyskank]

46. And were they still treated like lumps of meat?

I thought their treatment was pretty inhumane.

[no name no slogan]

48. Pretty much-- but even more so

they were barely acknowledged to be human at all. Hence the reason they were more alien-looking.

[no name no slogan]

23. Of course you did. The story was by Philip K. Dick

the greatest sci-fi writer of the 20th century. He also wrote the stories that "Total Recall", "Blade Runner" and "Second Variety" were based on, too.

Not even a ham like Tom Cruise can mess up such good stories. :D

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

43. We're gonna find out soon if Keanu Reeves can.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405296/

[no name no slogan]

47. Oh dear jeebus no

Not Keanu. Not in this one. It's one of my favorite stories. Oh god no.

[RandomKoolzip]

14. He gave exactly ONE good performance, ever.

"Born on the Fourth of July." And even then, it's debatable; having been impressed with his portrayal of Ron Kovic in the theatre, I saw the film again on video and was struck by how petulant, histrionic and borderline unbelievable his acting can be sometimes, and just because an actor puts on "ugly" clothes and maekup and is working with a script that puts the actor's character in jeopardy and dishevillment for the duration of the film DOESN'T mean that actor has turned in a good performance (see Charlize Theron for proof).

[Ava]

15. Collateral and Minority Report were both awesome moves

I don't care if you don't like Tom Cruise, they were awesome movies.

[Crazy Dave]

17. I still like him as an actor and yes, he has opinions but...

Like I posted yesterday: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5045063&mesg_id=5045632

I'm not much for all this band-wagon bashing and criticizing thing that's on ALL the internet forums here lately. It reminds me too much of the right-wing tactics when they don't like or agree with a celebrity, they smear them on Hannity and Limbaugh over and over, call for boycotts, etc. like with Tim Robbins and the Dixie Chicks, just for expressing their opinions.
I don't agree with a lot of people but I don't seek to destroy them or their careers and likewise I stay off the bandwagon bashing. If he makes a good movie, I'll still go see it.

So whatcha' think?

[Shell Beau]

22. I agree. I disagree with about everything the guy has said,

but I don't "hate" him for it. So, he's pretty ignorant!! :shrug: He has just been totally over-exposed and I can't stand the sight of him! Maybe it will die down eventually.

[MadHound]

18. There have been a number of Cruise films that I've found

To be entertaining over the years, Minority Report, Far and Away, Born on the Fourth of July, etc. I've always considered his acting ability to be fair to middling, if he's cast right, he's OK. As far as his personal life and Scientology:shrug: I've never been one to hold an actor's personal life against them, so long as they're not breaking the law. But I do have to admit, it does seem as though the cheese is slipping off of Tommy's cracker at a quicker pace these days.

[ghostsofgiants]

20. Magnolia, Vanilla Sky and Eyes Wide Shut are all great in my books.

Shit, Magnolia is one of my alltime favourites.

[Shine]

29. I loved Magnolia, too. Bought the soundtrack, even.

apparently that scene he does in the movie with his dying father was very similar to the dynamics with his own father, in real life. I think his real dad is still alive, but I'm not sure. I do know he's got a pretty fucked up relationship with him, though.

Guess he had to really dig down deep for that role, eh? :eyes:

:hi:

[borlis]

24. I know I loved him in Risky Business

What a creep he turned out to be. :puke:

[Ravenseye]

25. I liked the movies...him, not so much

He got attached to a bunch of good, or at least potentially good, movies which sometimes suffered from his presence. I think he's actually gotten worse as he's gotten older. At the very least he hasn't gotten better.

I loved some of the movies....but him...never really disliked him until the recent stuff, but now, I doubt I'll go to another one of his movies. He's just way too full of himself.

[SOteric]

26. Nah, never cared much for him or for Brad Pitt.

Oh well. :shrug:

[Shell Beau]

27. I hear ya!!

:)

[Pendrench]

30. I thought he was good in Rain Man (n/t)

[Shell Beau]

33. I forgot about that one too!! Jeez, I am losing my touch!

[hfojvt]

31. used to?

Taps, Risky Business, Vanilla Sky, Minority Report, even that one where he plays a scrappy irishman who eventually settles in Oklahoma. I have not followed all of his comments of late, but I know he donated $1000 to Hillary's Senate campaign in 2000 and he's from Syracuse.

[Shell Beau]

34. I have no doubt he is a dem, but he is a loony one!!

He does have some good movies under his belt!!

[kwassa]

32. He's gone a long way on very marginal acting abilities

He has one expression: cocky.

[Shine]

35. I don't hate Tom Cruise.

I liked some of his movies and I think he's a decent actor, but his personal life is a bit unusual, to put it mildly.

That said, I'm not into the personal bashing scene for his life choices, other than to express confusion as to why he would make them, in the first place.

Truthfully, I have compassion for the guy. It must be weird having EVERY aspect of your life examined under a microscope and living in a fishbowl. How does his belief in Scientology necessarily become fodder for lounge melodrama? Isn't it OK to simply disagree with him about his life choice, without having to vilify him, personally?

Should I put on my flame suit now? :D heheheh.

[Ava]

37. i don't see why people hate tom cruise so much

i like the guy. i wish he wasn't in the so-call news, but i could care less about the attention he is getting on entertainment shows. i think he will be a great father to the new baby and i think he has a nice personality. people also tend to believe that scientolgy is some crazy religion like the south-park version instead of what it really is. yes there are many loons in the religion, but there are in most. the founder wrote crazy stuff about aliens, but that doesn't mean all scientologists are crazy. judging by what i've read and what i've heard from ACTUAL scientolgist, scientology is a lot like buddhism.

[Shell Beau]

38. Maybe so, but he is putting his face on Scientology and

I disagree with a lot of things that Scientology teaches. Especially about postpartum depression and pills.

[Ava]

39. another misconception of scientology is about medicine.

while most scientologists don't like physiatric meds, they are fine with other meds. i was amused the other day by a few friends of mine talking about how scientologists couldn't take ANY meds. when i tried to tell them that they could take meds they aruged with me about it. i also agree with SOME (not all!) of the stuff he says about physiatric meds, but his problem is that he goes about the wrong way of talking about it. (ex: the today show interview was a disaster)

[Shell Beau]

40. And also calling out Brooke Shields was a disaster.

Let's see, a man telling a woman to take vitamins for Postpartum depression. Please! And Tom said that no kids should ever be on Ritalin. I certainly beg to differ. While it is overly prescribed, some kids benefit from it.

[Ava]

41. i agree 100%

but to a certain extent you have to realize most of this type of stuff is about publicity. it also helped brooke shields get more attetion which she needed and wanted to promote her book. all that i'm trying saying is that i get a little pissed off by all these people attacking him and other scientologists when they know absolutely nothing about the religion except what they hear on TV. :shrug:

i like the guy.

[Ramsey]

49. I liked Risky Business

And Top Gun was OK, but since then I don't think he's done anything that great. He does just get weirder with each passing moment.

[Left Is Write]

50. Sure I did.

I liked Risky Business, Top Gun, and Days Of Thunder (though I never did buy 22-year-old Nicole Kidman as a neurosurgeon).

However, Tom's behavior of late has turned me completely off of him, and that has tainted my feelings for those movies also.

[ikojo]

52. I thought he was hot in the 80s but

the only movie of his I've seen is Jerry McGuire. I don't recall having seen any of his other movies....oh wait...I do like Minority Report.

[Wapsie B]

53. His best role was in "Born on the 4th of July."

He played a Vietnam Vet who was a member of Congress.

[Blue_Tires]

58. by far his best role

along with Collateral....i'm sorry; i've liked most of Cruise's work, his personal life/religion notwithstanding...

[NMDemDist2]

54. you know I finally saw Jerry Maguire the other day(s)

it took two tries to get all the way through it

I didn't get it, it was pointless, forumalistic Hollywood crap IMO

[alarimer]

55. I even met him once

At race, back when he was racing (around or just before Days of Thunder). He was nice to the fan who wanted pictures. Of course that was before he went off the deep end.

[gollygee]

56. I was in high school when Top Gun came out

and yes indeedy I did like him. *sigh*

[devilgrrl]

57. There has never been a point in time where I liked that No-Talent...

I don't get what everyone sees in him. He can't act for shit.

[qnr]

59. Actually, before, I could care less. Now I like him, because of the

neverending attacks by DUers.

Well, "like" isn't the word, but I have a lot more empathy for him.