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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:07 AM
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Sexism in the workplace
When I still had a job (last week), I wrote a lot for my blog about work-related issues. In the future, I hope to post some of my Office Space series here. Thanks!

March 8 was Blog Against Sexism Day and, in commemoration, I took the time to discuss a problem that I have noticed ever since I've entered the working world, sexism in the workplace.

Having now worked in both the public and private sector, I've been exposed to office settings of varying type and size. What I've found is that no matter where I've been, sexism has been a pervasive problem. And while the nature of sexism has evolved over time, not only does it still exist, but it's also as dangerous as ever.

As big a problem, to me, as the sexism itself is the lax attitude men have displayed toward policing bad behavior among themselves. Sexism that discriminates against women isn't solely a "women's problem." It's everyone's problem.

Since I began working after college, I've seen office sexism take many forms. I've seen male bosses make inappropriate comments to female employees. I've seen colleagues discuss their peers in language more befitting a bar than an office. I've seen preferential treatment given to women whom, to male bosses, don't present a "threat." I've seen men working to undercut female colleagues whose only crime is subverting typical gender "roles." And I've seen men and women doing the same job receive salaries thousands of dollars apart. Nearly $30,000 apart in one case at my former office. Sometimes, it's subtle. Sometimes, it's overt. But it's always wrong.

The biggest threat I've found is male employees' sense of entitlement toward climbing the corporate ladder and their overwhelming distaste for the female peers who happen to advance ahead of them. When passed, these men, many of whom already harbor sexist attitudes (see my definitions for The Varsity Club and The Pervert here), grow even more bitter, feeling as though their colleague got the job simply because of her gender. Feeling hurt, they often try to put their coworker "in her place," undermining her efforts and stabbing her in the back.

The same things happen when male employees see female coworkers show assertiveness that would otherwise be rewarded if shown by their male colleagues. When these women subvert already painfully old-fashioned gender roles, many men react unprofessionally. What's more, I've seen men in those situations reward more "demure" female colleagues with better assignments, more work and preferential treatment, while those that showed initiative went unappreciated. Needless to say, this behavior can quickly ruin and office and prevent it from doing its best work.

What I haven't seen, sadly, is more being done by men - myself included - to bring these instances to light. Because again, workplace sexism and sexual harassment targeting women isn't solely a women's issue. When these problems persist, when they're allowed to fester, they slowly poison the office climate. The esprit de corps that good offices develop goes bad. Lines of communication break down. Trust is lost. Confidences are broken. Careers are hurt. Individuals suffer.

It doesn't have to be like this. Being an enlightened office means more to me than participating in workshops or pledging to extend equal opportunities to all. It's about fostering a climate that allows people to feel safe, comfortable, appreciated and ready to do their job and do it well. It's about rewarding hard work and promoting those who deserve it - no matter who thinks otherwise. It's about providing support to your colleagues and celebrating their achievements.

Will it get better? Possibly, though the climate in which we're raising those who will follow in our footsteps isn't very conducive to progress. Men are still being taught that being macho and showing strength are proper ideals and woman are still being forced to aspire to an almost unreachable definition of womanhood that emphasizes beauty over brains. While I'm most certainly oversimplifying the problem, it's easy to see how the struggles we faced during our youth continue to haunt us as adults.

As I said when I discussed racism, we (especially men) need to do more than simply note sexism when we see it. We must expose it, shine a light on it. Looking the other way only lends our tacit approval to these terrible behaviors. Honesty, furthermore, is a good first step toward a better environment. Most of us, including me, have exhibited sexist behavior. But if we can admit to our problems, we can fight them more easily. The longer we wait to face sexism head-on, the longer it will take to beat it back.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:34 PM
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1. Thank you for taking a stand.



I have seen and experienced the very same things in the workplace, but comments like these mean SO much more coming from you (a man) than from me (a woman). Your insight and courage provide a tremendous service to both genders.


Thank you.



*Ladies/women/womyn/men of intellect and integrity - let's keep this important thread kicked!




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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:21 AM
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13. I agree
Today, I was browsing an (archived) online discussion site - the Chronicle of Higher Education, no less. Read mostly by academia and administrators, so you'd expect decency and progressive ideas. I was amazed to read some of the blatantly racist / sexist comments made by posters on a gender-issues thread. I tell you, these guys could've given FR a run for their money. Things like that wake you up and make you more aware of the difficulties women face in all occupations.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:43 PM
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2. Agree 100% only thought is why din't you put this
in GD? Kicked and Recommended
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:45 PM
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3. Welcome to D.U.!, he says to someone who has been a member longer than
himself...
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:48 PM
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4. Great post Bobcat, Thanks.
:thumbsup:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:19 PM
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5. As the only female in an office of men
I have encountered sexism first hand, although my experience has been far better than most. These guys are well-educated and mostly liberal (not that is any guarantee of anything). I have had to remind them that certain jokes really should not be told in an office setting. Usually I go to my boss and he fixes the problem.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:38 PM
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6. I work in a sexist workplace too
It seems to be such a strong part of the culture that I think that my workplace is beyond hope in regards to gender equality. As I interview for jobs, I try to look for signs of gender issues. Unfortunately, I think that the problems aren't always initially obvious. I work in a relatively small food processing facility. Some people tell me that things are better in places with more professional and better educated people. Posts like yours though remind me that it can happen anywhere and maybe happens in most workplaces.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:54 PM
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7. Depends on which organization you want to work for
I have worked non-profit higher education and Fortune 100. I can say for the last 30 years I have worked at organizations that have as corporate policy the active encouragement and promotion of equal opportunity and compensation regardless of gender or race. In fact, my current dual reports are strong, people-oriented women reporting directly to the CEO. I would follow them anywhere.

I'm sorry your experiences were less than what you would want. But, there are many organizations that provide real equal opportunity. They should be encouraged, not included in generalities based upon personal experiences. The world's not all bad if you don't let it be.

Flame away, but I take pride in who I choose to work for.

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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:09 PM
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9. Are there clues in the interview process that one should look for?
Are there questions that one can ask without appearing that one would want to file a sexual harassment lawsuit against a company if hired?
My sister does not experience much sexism in her profession, but she is a flight attendent which is female dominated where she works. They also take sexual harassment seriously and she was reprimanded for "joking around" once. Does the profession have to be female dominated for sexual discrimination to be less common.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:06 PM
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11. Research the companies you are interviewing with
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 08:51 PM by wain
Does the company have a written corporate policy on sexism? It should have and it should express a zero tolerance attitude. Does the company actively support womens groups through funding and promotion of meetings and activities such as lunch and learns with outside guest speakers. What corporate executives (women and men) are members of such groups and who is the executive officer that acts as sponsor?

When you interview observe the diversity , or lack thereof, in the people you meet and see in the halls and office spaces. Your eyes won't lie. Does the company have a chief diversity officer? Has the company won any recognition awards for diversity? Are there any wall plaques in the lobby proclaiming the companies pride in winning such awards?

What is the gender mix of interviewers? Of management? Of executive officers? Of the board? Does the annual report address its activities to promote diversity? Google the internet with keywords of the company name, diversity, sexism. What results do you get? Discrimination suits or awards? Google the corporate officer and board member names. My CEO's name returns diversity awards.

When a women interviews you ask her about opportunities for women in the organization. Ask for examples. Ask her to tell you about her career in the company. Ask for a candid observation on how the organization treats women. Is the response one positive enthusiasm or short answer of indifference (or embarrassment)?

Usually one or two companies will clearly stand above all others in the quality and depth of people you interview with. It will be obvious, not subtle differences.

I wish you well in the organizations you work for in the future. Strive for what you believe is right, but don't waste too much time with the wrong company. If you find you spend time complaining about the company then you know it's time to move on. Make your personal goal to become the kind of person you would be proud to work for.

:thumbsup:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:02 PM
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8. K&R
Good post.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:02 PM
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10. You're a great writer!
It's sad that in certain workplaces hard work and dedication isn't rewarded regardless of gender. :hi:



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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:00 AM
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12. Excellent post!
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