Is this for real?

[Zuni]

I found this lurking at FR

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1033971/posts

please tell me this is a joke.

[Zuni]

1. Is this an important social justice issue

bevcause some in the article seem to think this is very important.

[Bertha Venation]

2. What about it is a joke?

Women need more public toilets at stadia/arenas/theatres/etc. Because we can't just stand, unzip, pee, and zip up, it takes us longer to relieve ourselves than it takes men. We have to get half undressed.

There's no agony like having to relieve yourself after three beers at the ball game only to run to the ladies' to find a line a half a mile long.

[Zuni]

5. I have an overactive bladder

And I always wait in line at parties, at games etc. There are always lines at men's rooms too.

I think it is weird that this is being presented as a cause, and that it requires legislation.

[Bertha Venation]

10. I understand you better now...

...not because of your unfortunate condition (I'm sorry) but because you wrote, "I think it is weird that this . . . requires legislation." I agree to an extent.

OTOH, many things require legislation or they won't get done. It's one of the ways of protecting the minority against the tyranny of the majority.

Okay, so this is a weirdly extreme example of that concept, but :shrug: that's the way I see it.

3. no, it's not a joke, it is for real

Public restrooms are really hard to find in NYC for anyone. Note this is happening in Brooklyn.

[ima_sinnic]

4. apparently this has been going on for some time

--probably started during the Clinton era of consciousness and nobody thought a thing of it--NOW it might become an issue--you think the cheap-ass repukes are going to allow this unwarranted generosity and needless drain from their PROFITS to continue?? not to mention--is this discrimination against males based on some nutty feminazi agenda??

:silly:

[Zuni]

6. It still seems like a weird cause to champion

I am still not convinced that this requires legislation.

[Lars39]

7. This became big in Nashville a few years ago.

I want to say it was when the stadium was built. Potty parity became a hot topic when it was discovered that there wasn't near enough bathrooms for women, and women were starting to use the men's bathroom. What is so weird about having more bathrooms for females than men? It takes us longer. We're at least half of the population, why shouldn't our needs be met? Architects and contractors weren't adding enough bathrooms, so yes, legislation was/is needed.

[supernova]

8. Well, when you

have to stand in line to use the toilet every damn public place you go, then I'll believe you have a point to make.

This is a very serious problem. Has been for a very, very, very, very, very, very long time.

[northzax]

13. oh come on, legislation?

how about, if you don't get the service you need, including adequate facilities, you don't patronize that business. As for public facilities, they should have the same number of places to 'go' If the men's room has a toilet and two urinals, the women's should have three toilets. perhaps you should design a urinal for women, that can be used in public, with a modicum of undressing. and if it takes you longer to get undressed, try wearing less clothing. Does it really take you any longer to drop your pants and underwear than it does me? if so, and this is a problem for you, I reccomend wearing clothing that is a bit easier to deal with.

[supernova]

15. You're wrong

on several levels.

Here's a pop quiz for you: I dare you to ask how many of us DU women have used the men's room in various establishments.

Not having enough toilet space for women in public places (restaurants, nightclubs, movie theatres, public fairs, ad nauseum - don't get me started on stadiums and arenas.) And yes, women with small children do take longer. It appears you've never had to deal with that ... yet.

And it's always the ladies that clogs up with people. Almost never the men's room. Why do you suppose that is?

As for your jibes about what I wear, I take about 3 minutes max. But I am looking out for my fellow sisters.

This really doesn't take much brainpower to see the problem. Traditionally, architects have been men, so of course they wouldn't percieve getting shortchanged on the toilettes as an issue. But it most certainly is.

You do realize you are arguing for miminal toilettes for women, don't you? Fine, I'll keep using the men's room. Like I said, when you have to go sitting down, then you'll have a problem with this. Until then, your credibility with me on this issue is lower than dustbunnies.

[izzie]

9. We must stand ferm. The Right wing can not take this issue,

The Right wing can not run anything that ends up working correct as the whole world can see, so are you willing for them to take over the numbers of pots in a ladies room?

[Buns_of_Fire]

11. I detect that there's a buck to be made here...

See: Penis extender for discreet urination. (At the bottom of the article there's a mention of the "Lady-J Adapter". Just hook everything up beforehand in the privacy of your home and stand there with a benevolent smile on your face while the puddle around your feet grows. Much hilarity will ensue -- especially if you're at a Wal-Mart...)

[Interrobang]

12. Here in Ontario a few years back...

They passed the so-called "Potty Parity" Laws, so that all new buildings had to have 1/3 more women's washrooms than men's. The logic was that women have to take longer in the john, and that women often have (small) children in tow (well, more often than men), and so on. Apparently the basis of the law was some kind of study (ergonomics-related, IIRC) that made this point.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

14. What the hell does it matter what political party those women belong to?

I swear, the republicans will make anything an issue as long as a democrat said it or did it. it's ridiculous.
Duckie