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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:05 PM
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Poll question: Getting those feelings about staying in the lounge only again
:( sigh, I dont know whats wrong, hell I should be happy, Bush is gonna be out of office, I cant explain though what my problem is and the like. I dont get it. Sigh. If anyone wants to talk to me, you know where you can find me on IM or MSN messanger. So my question is should I stay in the lounge and the lounge only, being that other fourms are more stressful and tiring.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:08 PM
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1. Just go outside the lounge when you are in a good mood,
one where a little stress and dissension won't mess up your day.

If you go to GD or Politics, don't do it when you are in a funk. It can mess up a big string of days...

Just a suggestion.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:09 PM
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2. You see I go there in a ok mood but it puts me in a funk
Good idea thanks though. I am really feeling down today for some reason.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:18 PM
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3. Try looking at the bright side of things. For instance:
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 01:18 PM by kmla
When you see a picture of Chimpy Whistle-Ass - Be happy that you are more intelligent than the leader of the free world. Before your 18th birthday.

When you see a picture of Karl Rove - You will never be evil AND bald. Don't know about your genetics (baldness is passed down), but I'm pretty sure you will never be evil.

When you see a picture of Dick Cheney - He looks like almost every criminal that the Scooby Doo gang caught. "I would have done it if it wasn't for those meddling kids."

If you can't find something nice to think about when you see someone you disdain, use this thought.

"At least by breathing, they provide carbon dioxide for the plant life to consume."

Cheer up, dude! It gets better. Honest.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:26 PM
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4. :) I try but its hard
Chimpy wont be in the white house when I turn 18. :)
I wont be bald or evil :D because no bald gene
On Cheney omg youre right lol
Thanks though, I am feeling a little better now and I have the craziest lil grin on my face lol.
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Lizz612 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:27 PM
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5. Dupe
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 01:28 PM by Lizz612
with bad speeling... :eyes:
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Lizz612 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:28 PM
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6. I've felt the same way lately
I've been sticking to the lounge a lot, too. GD feels unconstructive and stressful and I have enough stress. I just read the stuff in GD and such, never reply. And then I go for a walk. It nice and crisp out, dress warm and let the cold make you feel alive. Then come in and appreciate central heating.
You seem to have been down in the dumps lately Kleeb, hope you feel better.
:hug:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:30 PM
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7. Yeah I know what you mean
Drives me nuts. Thanks Lizz I appreciate it. The lounge is always good when I need to feel better. Thanks again :hug:
Maybe some music now would help.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:32 PM
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8. Yesterday was particularly nasty in GD
Try not to take it personally. Sometimes it's good to take a break, too.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:33 PM
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9. I dont take it personally
Thats not the problem, the problem is it seems like people enjoy being asses and liking to fight. Sigh, I oughtta shut up I know, its just sad. Well all will be good soon I hope. Thanks.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:45 PM
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10. You cheer me up when I see your posts on other threads
I'm sorry to hear you're feeling disheartened or down, and I want you to know you pick people up with your spirit.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 01:54 PM
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11. I appreciate that Dan
If I do that, I'll be god damned, thanks though, thats my humbleness talking there. Like its not that I question my support of who I do, that doesnt happen, what happens is, I ask the question Shaw and Kennedy asked, "some men see things as they are and I dream of things that never were and ask why not", apparently seeing great things and saying why not is idealistic, but is idealism bad, some people think so but I think they are wrong, we wouldnt have what we have if it wasnt for idealism, ya see your social security idealism, your right to free speech, you got that from idealism, etc and etc, We are all idealists and pragamatists in someway. Thanks though, I am glad I cheer you up, I need a good post to give me a morale boosta as I call em. The tide will change I guess. Sigh, I'll be all right. Thanks again.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 04:33 PM
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21. Sometimes, it's just time for a new argument
I hear all those denigrators and their "pithy" one-liners about this or that. Yawn. I even put someone on ignore for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

Notice how no one's been able to put to sleep my "bell curve" argument?

Of the arguments I've made so far, I can think of very few that have been successfully refuted - and none by "pithy" one-liners.

Keep on keepin' on, man.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 04:34 PM
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22. I finally utilized ignore myself
BTW I have a thread going there now. Its about a hospital. Only one person gave it a look and said something.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:06 PM
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12. kick the feelings are still here
:kick:
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:24 PM
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13. Check Out GD
The State Attorney's office has seized the medical records of Rush from four doctors. That, the quantity of drugs of a Schedule 3 narcotic and the money laundering questions in New York raises the possibility of the RICO statues being invoked.

That is good news today.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:35 PM
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15. wow Don thanks for the news
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:25 PM
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14. I think DU needs a GD buddy system
Duers who are too scared to go into GD alone can hold hands with a friend and browse around. :D

I'll be your buddy John.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:37 PM
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16. I dont wanna hold your hand
Now you can watch my back but no hand holding, :D, now if you find me a cutie to be my buddy then, great but as of now you can watch my back. Sorry MR.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:54 PM
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17. Dean's too angry!!! Clark kills babies!!!
Kucinich? Ha! He's "height challenged"! And don't get me started on Lieberman!!!

(Didn't you read Plaid Adder yesterday? There IS no security anywhere...)

:-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:59 PM
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18. lol
No I didnt read it.
I feel ok I guess.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:06 PM
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20. You M U S T read this...
We're human beings. We're mortal. So are all the people we love. And that means that we are all always in terrible danger, all the time. As long as you are inside a mortal body or you love anyone who is, you are not safe. I could be killed any day of my life out on the highway. My partner could die any day of her life in a train wreck. Neighbors of ours just lost their 20 year old son - not to a terrorist attack on US soil or to fighting in Iraq, but to a sudden and unexpected infection that no one seemed able to control. Everything that matters to us is fragile and vulnerable and made to be lost. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that any of us can do to change that.

So vulnerability is the price of freedom; but it's more than that. It's the price of love. It's the price of humanity. It's the price of compassion and sympathy. Since 9/11, what the crowd in charge has been doing is trying to convince us that it's too high a price. Instead of being vulnerable, we have to be secure. And that has meant denying our kinship with the people of the world, denying our feelings of compassion toward the people we are trampling in our panic, denying our own need for light and air and room to move. I am tired of watching the world burn, and I have decided that if the world Bush's team is forging is 'safe,' then I would really prefer danger.

More here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/plaidder/03/06.html
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:59 PM
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19. stay where you are comfortable
don't torture yourself.

i've been feeling the same way too, although i'm not sure if the Lounge is safe either. i have been down the past couple of days-stuff going on-i'm not sure if i am interpretting words/conversations wrong or, seeing someone done really does bring out the worst in people. :cry:

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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:16 PM
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23. Has it been cloudy gray where you live, for a long time??
You might have seasonal affective disorder, it's very common.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:17 PM
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24. Its not that, and no
been fairly nice, I lost these feelings but they came kinda back. Sigh :(.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:43 PM
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27. Well, no one is happy all the time.
And I don't quite trust people who appear to be... :-)

Just find something to do, and don't worry. It will go away. And come back... And go away.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:49 PM
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29. Its gone for now
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:20 PM
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25. I just ignore all of the candidate threads
If it has a candidate's name in it, I don't read it unless it's LBN.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:21 PM
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26. Hard not to, I need to be chained lol
Sigh its hard.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:46 PM
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28. We like you here!!!! don't go!!!!
:hi: You are pretty swell in my books!!! :) :bounce:

don't leave. :(
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 07:49 PM
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30. I'd love to be a lounge lizard
:D would make me happier.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:02 PM
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31. JK did someone do something to you over there?
Let me know I'd be happy to watch your back. If you get stressed come out of GD that's what I do. Do you know the funny thing about me is, when I first come here, I spent the first few months in GD only? I was afraid to come in here because it seemed as though everyone kind of knew one another.
In GD you just can't let some things get to you, it helps to go to a different thread then come back with a rebuttal if you need to. But please continue to contribute over there I promise to make more of an effort to say hello. I read your posts everytime I'm on thread, you are a voice of reason in an often unreasonable crowd!
BtW I lost my cool for the third time in GD yesterday and go figure it was with the same DUer I told to grow up about 2 months. So today someone posts a thread almost about the things I said yesterday, well sort of.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:11 PM
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33. You can have my back but no one has been dissin me
Thats interesting about your experience. Its the in candiate fighting that gets to me, although my candiate is hardly ever the one bashed, it's just something I cant explain really. Words cant explain how I feel sometimes.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:25 PM
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35. I have certainly tried to persuade some from candidate bashing
but how can one reason with another who thinks it's only candidate bashing if it's their candidate being bashed? I don't know what the answer is. The lack of unity gets to me sometimes and I have to do some sort of "why is this" thread. My last one was about the difference between Democrats and Repubs which is basically, Dems will critize everything about a Dem leader that doesn't jive with their ideal selves and Repubs just fall in line and accept the imperfections. I've seen many here who take issue with Clinton but you'll never see a repub fault Reagan or Papa Bush.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:28 PM
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36. My candiate isnt the highest amongst the bashed
Its tough though because I cant explain it all, its just sadness over the fighting and thinking about the dream.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:41 PM
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37. I know Dennis isn't being bashed because he is more closely in line
to our ideal selves than the rest. I've been keeping up with the "say something nice" about a candidate thread and he has many more comments than Clark! Go figure! I think it's that, as well as the candidate bashing. You have got to wonder why if all these people are willing to say such wonderful things about him, well, why the heck don't they support him?! Sorry I can't answer that question but wish I could.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:39 PM
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39. Well, no one ever listens to me....but I'm an idealist.....and you
just gotta "pick yourself up and start all over again." Or,take a break.

DU isn't the only world......it fits sometimes with where you are, but other times it might not. It's always here. I don't think Skinner, et.al. are packing it in yet! LOL's...but just take a break. Re-group, and try to tune it out and give yourself time for another perspective.

Just, advice, John. I don't know you...so shouldn't give advice anyway....but...Idealists need time to themselves, from time to time...if that makes any sense.

If not.....oh well....just a post from a "random source."
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:08 PM
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43. I cant explain how I feel its just that, I dont know
I have gotten better though, since posting this,
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:09 PM
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32. John I always read your posts,so don't limit them.
Insightful and witty,and always everyone knows you care.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:11 PM
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34. I care, its just disheartening
feeling I guess disillshioned is the word.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:06 PM
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38. Idealism... did you see..
TahitiNut's post today on that? Was sooo wonderful, and poetic, and right to the point. Fits Dennis perfectly.

Sounds like you're a sensitive person, John, and that's what's so good about you. It's just hard to live with sometimes, and when you can figure out that you're sensitive, and what you need to do to protect that, it may start feeling a bit better. I have a good hunch that Dennis is sensitive, also, and he has had to learn how to protect that sensitivity.

Kanary, another sensitive idealist for Kucinich.... ^_^
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:49 PM
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40. suggestion..
there are other forums besides GD and the Lounge..

i've been hitting the economic forum lately. what's tough it they don't move very fast, but there are many DU'ers that we could learn a ton from.

:bounce:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:06 PM
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41. I also mentioned politics/campaigns
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:07 PM
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42. Thanks kanary
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travisleit01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:10 PM
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44. The Draft-speculation has been really stressing me out... n/t
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:10 PM
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45. me too even though I cant be drafted with my condition
I worry about the others who could be.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:11 PM
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46. Despite the polls that say I should still go there
Ive made my decision. Lounge lizard for a week, if I like it enough I will stay entirely. Sigh, the blues are still here with me.
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tinnyguy1777 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:44 PM
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47. JohnKleeb---------
You really need a woman-----------to remind you how nice life can be!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:48 PM
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48. I am only 16
but I could go for a girl :(, sigh its tough being shy.
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