How the hell did the Liberal "Wimp/Soft" crap start?

[JanMichael]

Seriously this idiocy is, well, idiotic.

Is it all based on support of Women's Rights and Homosexual Rights?

How is it that the belief in Political Equity (freedom from bias or favoritism) be turned so badly?

The "Media" well...YES I suppose. But there must be some more substantial cultural thing or something...

Me? I like wine/beer/vodka, sushi/steak tartar/salmon, and good emergency healthcare. Oh and I don't like, but don't mind either, conflict...

And chicks, specifically my most wonderful wife.

So this wimpy/soft crap...From where does it emerge?

[salinen]

1. If you don't want

to slaughter a spotted owl, you're a wimp.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. It is my experience that...

Those with Dick issues talk about their manhood and virility and, yes, their dicks, with alarming regularity.

Thus, the issue is explained. ;-)

[KG]

3. maybe the liberal preference to use the mind to solve a problem

instead of a spear? maybe.

but, being the manly man i am, i've never been accused of being a 'panty waist' liberal. :D

[JanMichael]

4. Why isn't the tern "panty-waist CONservative" heard???

Sure there are "soft" Liberals just like I KNOW there are "Soft" CONservatives too!


Ie. Beer.

[NightTrain]

5. I'm guessing it began in the 1960s as a response to the macho...

...mentality that permeated American society during the post-war years.

[AlienGirl]

8. It predates the 60s

...by at least 30 years.

Tucker

[carpetbagger]

12. Only by a few years.

I'd place it in the late 40's and early 50's. Prior to that, it was the democrats who were the party of hawks, especially in the years leading up to WWII. I think it was basically as a result of political realignment at the beginning of the cold war. We were wimps because we wouldn't either start WWIII fast enough (Truman-MacArthur-Korea-China-Patton) or turn America into, well, Russia (McCarthy-Nixon-Reagan-"god").

[regnaD kciN]

23. Perhaps, but...

...it was really in the late 60s-early 70s that it took off. It was based on opposition to Vietnam by young people. Conservatives seized on the notion that there were no higher ideals motivating war opponents, that the only reason draft-age men were protesting the war was that they were too cowardly or un-manly to "do their patriotic duty." Of course, it didn't help that most of the young men protesting the war wore their hair long, so that the complaint was that "you couldn't tell if they were a boy or a girl."

[SOteric]

6. I suspect is backlash for calling George H.W. a wimp to his detriment

at the polls, in combination with the standard liberal anti-war stance.

Not that any of that makes the accusation genuine. If it bothers you, don't get angry, -start a web-page to catalogue the bravery of liberals and progressives by current societal standards. It can't be hard, - we've plenty of resources around here.

[JanMichael]

7. Oh no, it was a staple of Archie Bunker, way prior to the first Bush liar.

And I refuse to do a web-page...Ok...I'm too LAZY! Ok?

[Zomby Woof]

9. maybe in GD

So many pussies over there, with hysterical overreactions and outbursts and thin skins. No wonder we get our asses kicked in elections.

Fuck being a bleeding heart liberal - I am an ass-kicking liberal.

[Philostopher]

33. Somebody had a sig for a while, a few months ago

That said "I'm from the BITE ME wing of the Democratic Party!"

I loved that one. I forget who had it, though.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

10. It was used as a slur against Trade Unionists by the Hearst

Papers, and we are talking 1900 or so.
It grew and grew until what we have now.

[JanMichael]

11. But, but, but...Big Bill Haywood was NOT "soft"!

None of those early labor notables were "soft", by ANY measure.

Shit...I'd give Bush 3 seconds against any of them, including the women.

Those were HARD folk, period.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

13. We know that, but that was the schmeer tactic they used.

I am trying to dig up the book from whence the citation came, but it is somewhere in the litter I call an office.

[ChoralScholar]

14. Hey.. I'm pretty dang liberal

but I'll kick some ass if I need to (whoo.. got a little liberal-redneck there - sorry) . Wimpy liberals? whatever. What's wimpy is not thinking for yourself and blindly following a chimp-boy elevated to deity-like status.

NOTE: Normally I don't Bush Bash, but hey its a special occasion. :)

[mitchum]

15. It emerged from Ed Muskie's tear ducts

A defining moment in perception/propaganda

[Wapsie B]

21. Also

Pat Schroeder when she cried during the debates. Sadly, that's all some people remember about her.

[AlFrankenFan]

16. The media...and wimpy conservatives

A lot of it I hate to admit is most likely from women's rights and homosexual's rights...but standing up for something shouldn't be considered wimpy.

[EV1Ltimm]

17. "i drink whiskey straight from the bottle and pick fights..."

"and i vote democrat!"

how wide would that bumper sticker have to be?

[guitar man]

19. I like it!

And I have a 4-wheel drive ford pickup with a huge rear bumper to put it on :)


(edit due to being typographically challenged)

[Cleita]

18. Ann Coulter's favorite put down is "wimpy liberals".

eom

[Blue-Jay]

20. I've only been called a "wimpy liberal" once.

A less-than-freeper friend said that. I offered to send him to his dentist. He recanted.

[Bucky]

25. "I offered to send him to his dentist". So you believe in health care, eh?

you wimpy liberal



-ow!

[Guaranteed]

22. Some people say they're against war, no matter what

It's not a common point of view, but when it's taken, it can be easily mistaken for wimpiness.

[MSchreader]

24. The fact that

Some liberals/lefties are as touchy and whiny about criticism as their conservative/rightie counterparts (case in point: DU's new secret police -- aka "Moderator"). It's just that when the libs/left had its chance to make the "wimp" label stick to the right (Bush Sr.!), they dropped the ball ... as usual.

Martin

[Dogmudgeon]

26. When it really got going

About a day after Richard Mellon Scaife wrote that $100,000 check out to Richard Viguerie.

--bkl

[Zolok]

27. I've always thought...

that novelist Allen Drury really gave that canard it's screechy cachet...the liberals in his novel are somehow both cowardly and craven yet evil enough to do in conservatives in sneaky ways.
Pretty much the current malign caricature in a nutshell.

www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com

[ArkDem]

28. Here ya go

bleeding heart
n.
A person who is considered excessively sympathetic toward those who claim to be underprivileged or exploited.

[MSchreader]

29. Anyone's heart would bleed

When you put a stake through it. :evilgrin:

Martin

[shimmergal]

30. Repigs llike to talk tough.

They think it makes them sound "manly."

Exhibit A - the current White House occupant.

[Loonman]

31. Daschle?

"p-p-p-p-p-please Mr. President, don't hurt us, or I'll be deeply saddened"

[Zolok]

32. You see....

we use it on each other, so why shouldn't the freepers use it on us?

[Kamika]

34. I think it has alot to do with supporting gays, and being pc

You know in the world of most freepers a gay guy is a stereotypical sissy.. so they imagine that all liberals are feminine and so on.. also I guess they think we are weak when we dont go around saying how bad minorities are

[Loonman]

35. I'll bare-knuckle box a Republican

Not Sean Hannity, but maybe Fred Barnes.