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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:08 PM
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This asphyxiation sex thing. How prevalent is it? Just saw another
CSI where the vitim killed himself by mistake doing this.

Maybe because I have had asthma all my life and have really felt what it is like to not breath but I cannot understand this. Is this a young people thing?

Is there a difference between drowning and asphyxiating? Water boarding is considered torture yet people do the asphyxiating thing on purpose. Maybe it is the loss of blood to the brain rather than the inability to breath that causes some pleasant sensation.

I am just rambling here. If anyone knows about this please tell.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:20 PM
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1. It's a sexual thing
Aphyxiation is applied during masturbation, usually involving porn; practioners believe that the lack of oxygen intensifies orgasm.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 01:31 AM
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6. I am just wondering how widely it is practiced. I never heard of it until
several years ago. It almost seems like a fad.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 01:49 AM
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7. Also wearing tight panties
and/or other female garments. or so I've heard.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 01:58 AM
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8. Apparently it is a very dangerous practice
http://www.cwu.edu/~jenkinsa/AEA.htm

This is a slide show with some photos that are bad. It also explains that even if a person does not die from one act that repeated acts result in brain damage. I never knew about the brain damage part. Maybe this should be taught in sex ed, if they have sex ed anymore.

This is a good thing to look at if you have kids or are a teacher or someone around kids because it teaches you signs that it is being practiced. Like marks on the neck and S @ M porn

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beckajane14 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:29 PM
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2. Inxs's lead singer
I remember first hearing about this when inxs's lead singer died while doing this. From what I remember he basically hung himself by mistake.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:49 PM
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3. Welcome to DU, beckajane!
:hi:

Unfortunately, that's not entirely true. That was one of the rumours initially when he was found, but it was later disproved as a theory, given his depressed state (prior to his death) and the drugs found in his system after the autopsy.

From E! online's report:

INXS Singer's Death Ruled Suicide

by Joal Ryan
Feb 6, 1998, 7:20 AM PT

In the end, Michael Hutchence, the preening, flamboyant rock showman, was simply (if that's the word) depressed.

A coroner's office in Sydney, Australia, today said that a "severe depressed state" drove the INXS lead singer to hang himself from a leather belt in a hotel room there last November.

The suicide ruling ends--officially, at least--speculation of other kinky or nefarious reasons for Hutchence's too-early death at age 37.

There was no evidence to prove reports that the naked Hutchence accidentally hanged himself while engaged in auto-eroticism--a masturbation game in which players seek to heighten pleasure by cutting off their air supply--New South Wales Coroner Derek Hand said.

There was also nothing to indicate that a second party played any role in the death, dismissing rumors that other persons may have been present, Hand said.



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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:24 AM
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11. Howdy, BeckaJane.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:46 AM
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16. Welcome to DU.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:28 AM
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20. wasn't he naked?
do people usually hang themselves naked?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:49 PM
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44. well skittles
is there really any point to getting dressed & putting on full make-up and handbag before hanging yourself?

death by hanging is supposed to cause an erection and possibly release in the male, prob. it would just mess up yr clothes if you did get dressed first

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:16 AM
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4. Being an asthmatic
I don't really get it either.

I'm sure you could find out more about it on-line...try to google it. There's SO MANY 'interesting' fetishes out there. Some will blow you away, others will just make you scratch your head and go :wtf: you'll wonder why anyone would ever want to do such a thing.

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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:01 AM
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9. I've always kind of wondered how a person ends up with a certain
fetish. Like men seem to have more foot fetishes. Maybe they had some feelings while playing in their mother's closets around her shoes?

I wouldn't mind having a man with a foot fetish. I love to have my feet rubbed.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:23 AM
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10. I'm an asthmatic and I think it's insane.
I know why people do it but they're risking death by doing so. Cutting of someone's air ain't my idea of a good time no matter if it intensifies orgasms or not.
If a woman has a nice feet with a nice pedicure that's something I can get into. I appreciate many aspects of a woman's beauty.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:36 AM
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13. I've wondered that, too...
Like do you just wake up one day and say, "I really need to be spanked today!" :shrug:

Honestly, I'm fascinated by a lot of fetishists. Like you, I don't think having a guy dig my feet would bother me at all. I've heard that foot worshipers are picky about what you one adorns their feet with and are more than happy to get their significant others (or objects of worship) many glorious shoes. Just imagine that. Someone that would be thrilled for you to get pedicures, happily rub your feet and support your getting fabulous shoes. How cool would that be?

I watched a documentary on HBO featuring dominatrixes and their clients. I found it hysterically funny and simultaneously so interesting!

Most of the guys that go to their dungeon are stock broker, wall street types. Why are republicans always closet fetishists? :rofl:
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:56 PM
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46. I know you won't "get" this given your asthma but
sometimes a lack of air can give people a high or feeling or euphoria that may be sexual in nature. It doesn't take long for the brain to want this buzz more, so the efforts to reproduce it get intensified and combined with actual masturbation to give an even greater orgasmic feeling. I would guess the initial discovery happens more on accident than anything, like doing pull-ups and losing your breath on that bar. That's the basics of it anyway.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:19 AM
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5. it's a conservative politician thing n/t
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:35 AM
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12. I'm posting this here because I don't know what to do with it.
I started looking up sexual fetishes and ended up at a man/boy love site. I don't know if this is illegal but I'm putting it here so people know about it. I guess I want it out of my hands. It is very weird.

http://tperkins.com/bl.html
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:39 AM
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14. Oh gross--those nambla guys are sick tickets.
national association for man boy love or something like that...really disturbed dudes. They have found a way in their deviant minds to convince themselves that what they feel is pure and innocent and totally fine.

(shiver) thinking about it gives me the willies...ok. done with this. sorry. too gross. just wrong.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:42 AM
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15. When I was in college, I remember a few guys on campus dying
from auto-erotic asphyxiation. I never understood the appeal. But can you imagine that phone call home?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:47 AM
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17. i don't care if they even THINK they're going to use a $5,000...
donatella versace scarf, and solid gold, ruby encrusted handcuffs;

some idiot makes a move on me i kick'em in the nutz...or whatever
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 04:05 AM
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18. well i knew a guy who died that way.
he was the weird guy that lived next to my girlfriend's parents in a very small town in Minnesota. took all of a day for everybody in town to know his widow's and children's new secret. they moved away not too much later.

he was found hanging from his dump truck in the shop.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:27 AM
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19. I don't know but it should not be a solo activity
people if you're gonna do it for chrissakes have someone with you
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:22 AM
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22. Amen. See my post.
SAdly, it's being done in masturbation, by people who don't have partners.

:(
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:54 PM
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42. Well, doing it to other people isn't all that good either.
I can name several women murdered this way. Or at least the men who killed them claimed they died this way.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:53 PM
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41. LOL. There have actually been murders when
a man claimed that woman was murdered trough asphyxiation to which she consented.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:54 PM
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45. no DON'T have someone with you
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 05:54 PM by pitohui
skittles, this activity is v. high risk, you run the risk of having yr partner jailed for manslaughter or even murder if the scene goes bad, over the years i've heard of dominatrixes actually being charged in a couple of such cases

remember the case of the dominatrix arrested because her boyfriend smothered in her boobs?

i will not participate in such an activity, if you are going to gamble your life, do it in such a way that no one else goes to prison for your good time

as a v. young person, i nearly lost consciousness during such a scene and my partner had no idea because you start to slip away so quietly, i don't think it would have been quite fair to her to be left behind to explain what had happened if i had died

to my mind the activity is too risky period but if you must don't hurt anyone else

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:21 AM
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21. Even in Bumfuck, Mississippi, it's being done.
At a junior college where I taught in the late 1990s, a kid was found in a dorm room, naked from the waist down, hanging by his neck, by a belt, from the hanger rod in his closet.

The coroner called it a suicide. which was bullshit, because the boy's feet were touching the ground.

It was a case of sexual asphyxiation, gone awry.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:11 PM
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48. that is so sad
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:46 AM
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23. underground comic artist Vaughn Bode died from it in 1975
Its not a new thing


I was asthmatic when I was a kid and understand what you are saying about having breathing restricted.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:52 AM
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25. check out kinky old Albert
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:51 AM
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24. Let me catch my breath and I'll explain it to you....
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:40 PM
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35. Oh God!
Sick joke but funny!
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 07:24 AM
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26. It's a sex thang
Loss of breath can make for some pretty damn powerful orgasms. (A statement which sounds dumb as hell to anyone who has to live with asthma.)

But nevertheless true. It's dangerous, stupid, idiotic. A really good way to kill yourself.

Khash.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:03 AM
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27. Kevin Gilbert (the musician Sheryl Crow used then abandoned) died this way
Unfortunately. He went way too soon as he was an absolute genius (except for the part where he choked himself to death while alone).
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:57 AM
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28. Enough to show up on a Barenaked Ladies record
"If I were you
And I wish that I were you
All the things I'd do
To make myself turn blue

I suppose
I'd start by removing all my clothes
Tie my pantyhose
Around my neck" - from "Ill Be That Girl" on the "Stunt" album

Strange song from a great, creative band.

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:33 AM
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32. I agree the song didn't strike me as BNL Material.
Btw do you know when they're coming out with a new cd
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 11:56 AM
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34. Cool...
I'll keep my eyes peeled. I saw them live the last time they blew into Madison...I was very impressed. Top-notch musicianship and a robust sense of humor combined to make for a great show. I plan on catching them again next time they come through town...

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:01 AM
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29. If you're doing this, you're bored with sex
So Darwin takes over. Dumbasses.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:57 PM
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47. patiod is right, loonman is wrong
nothing to do w. darwin or being bored w. sex, you don't even have to be that old or to be having sex w. the other person (assuming there's another person) to get off on it, teens & even sub-teens have been known to be into this

we're all wired differently, who knows why, but presumably there are sound evolutionary reasons why we are not all the same
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:02 AM
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30. An 11-year old local boy killed himself this way last week
Evidently, the kids call it "the choaking game", and there's not necessarily masturbation attached to it.

Scary stuff.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:10 AM
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31. There are times when I wake up I can't move or breathe
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 10:12 AM by DanCa
I have to breathe in very shallow controlled movements to allow air into my lungs. If I get nervous or scared I usually start to hack up blood. It's not a pleaseant feeling. I dont know why people would mess around with the ability to breathe. I usually wake up this way three or four times aweek. Guess I am missing the point eh?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:45 PM
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37. I've had that experience where you wake up and can't move. I hate it.
So many uncomfortable things to deal with just being ordinary. I don't want to add to my misery.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:50 AM
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33. Another famous death - British Conservative MP Stephen Milligan
There's also a scene in "Ken Park" where a teenager does it - graphically - and there's a mass scene of autoerotic asphyxiation in Burroughs' "Naked Lunch". People who enjoy it often referred to as asphyxiophiliacs.

Here's a 70's article on "The Medical Realities of Breath Control Play":
http://members.aol.com/Oldrope/breath.htm
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:42 PM
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36. If "smart" people die this way
How fucking smart are they, really?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:47 PM
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38. I have asthma and I don't understand it either...
I like being able to breathe easily...

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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:48 PM
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39. Autoasphyxiation...
a rather common sexual fetish, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoerotic_asphyxiation
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:51 PM
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40. I knew someone who died of this
He was a friend of a friend, I'd only met him two or three times several years before he died. It shocked the hell out of everyone around him, and the family was completely dismayed to find the details of his death printed in the paper.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:47 PM
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43. it is not just a young people thing
i'm not sure what you want to know

Is there a difference between drowning and asphyxiating? Water boarding is considered torture yet people do the asphyxiating thing on purpose. Maybe it is the loss of blood to the brain rather than the inability to breath that causes some pleasant sensation.



a consensual or self-performed sex act is not the same as an act of violence, there are people into s/m who enjoy being beaten & who experience orgasm from such but if they were in a non-sexual situation such as a prison the beating would not lead to orgasm, only to pain & injury just as it does for more neurotypically wired persons

sadly w. breath play it is hard to maintain control & i will not involve myself in a breath play situation because the chance of accidentally killing self or partner is too great but some people apparently think they can handle it, to ea. his own but i strongly advise against trying this even once because the risks are so high, i would not try this again because of the sensation of being swept away is too dangerous & if you go only a few minutes w.out breathing you're toast
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:15 PM
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49. Well said
minor breath play is relatively harmless, but practised alone or taken above a "fantasy" level - it gets dangerous very quickly.

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