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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:22 PM
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Paging Zuni -- most evil anti-poor FR post in a LONG time
I know your morbid taste. You love to watch those train wrecks. Read this, weep, and have fun deconstructing it: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545634/posts#14
To: indcons
Middle class people will actually be HURT by this program the same way they're hurt by ANY help that's given those in the lower classes. It doesn't matter what it is. It's may be fuel, pills, health care, food. Anything you can imagine.

How? The more help you give those on the bottom, the more they compete for goods and services with those in the middle. Prices rise as the middle competes with the bottom for limited supplies.

The net result is higher prices and a middle-class that loses some of it's fuel, or medicine, etc. to others that have been given government help.

Really, all these programs do is for some in the middle class to trade places with those given help.

This is especially true for things where the supply isn't very elastic, like fuel for heating, or access to doctors.

For example, suppose there are 100 doctors serving 1000 patients. And there are another 1000 patient that need doctors. Prices sort out who gets a doctor and who doesn't. The top 1000 earners get the 100 doctors. The bottom 1000 don't.

Now along comes the government trying to help the bottom 1000 afford care. They give this bottom 1000 enough money to buy doctors. Okay. So where do the 100 doctors come from to serve this 1000 that now have money for care? There is no magic doctor fairy. Those doctors come the middle class that once could afford them. Competition between the two groups for doctors means prices get driven up until the those in the middle get out-competed with those that get government help.

If the Republicans shared these ideas with the middle class, they'd be able to get all sorts of cuts in social spending. That spending is mostly pointless anyway since it only drives up prices and makes things more expensive and untilmatly squeezes the middle class from the bottom.
14 posted on 12/22/2005 2:59:55 PM PST by mc6809e
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:25 PM
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1. damn
Whats his solution? Death camps for the poor?

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:59 AM
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12. I think I remember from Star Trek Deep Space 9
In one of those time travel episodes, they had gone back to the 21st century and the poor and jobless were basically caged into walled zones within cities.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:26 PM
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2. Breathtaking amorality
Notice that a Fweeper will never mention the over-servicing of the upper class, or that an upper class even exists. That sinkhole needs a thorough fumigating with mustard gas.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:27 PM
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3. Never took an econ course, did he?
Apart from being evil, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read. But then, consider the source.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:28 PM
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4. Appallingly stupid post.
They are unreal.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:38 PM
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5. I'm no economist,
but after reading that twice I think that person is a fucking moran.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:43 PM
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6. A heartless bastard and a clueless fuckhead...
A potent combination


The Freepwads can have him
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:19 AM
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7. Dunno. Looks more like a heartless fuckhead and a clueless bastard to me.
:silly:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:27 AM
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8. I'm glad he explained that to me
Let's kill all the poor people, not to mention the disabled and elderly. We wouldn't want them using up our resources now, would we? :sarcasm:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:36 AM
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9. I wonder where I read that kind of reasoning before.
By the way, would I look good with a Chaplin-like moustache?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:39 AM
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10. Sure, go for it
:thumbsup:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 06:45 AM
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11. That made my head hurt...
absolutely beautiful logic...NOT!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:05 AM
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13. Note to Freeper Fuckhead: When Jello Biafra sang "Kill the Poor"
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 08:05 AM by ET Awful
It was SATIRE. He was not telling you to model your life after his teachings. :evilgrin:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:32 AM
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14. This is so utterly asinine
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 09:32 AM by Zuni
that I don't even want to read it again.

Basically, I got this: If the poor can afford doctors, then it is going to become more expensive for everyone else.

So damn stupid.
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