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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:00 AM
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Married DU Ladies - Abandon feminism and meet your true calling!
In other words, the reason why wives are to submit to their husbands is not because they are wonderful guys who deserve it. Sometimes husbands deserve very little from their wives. The reason why you submit is because your Lord Jesus Christ deserves it. Out of gratitude to him, for all that he has done for you, you submit. It is not because you love your husband that much, but it is because you love the Lord Jesus more. That is the key. I obey the one I love; I do whatever he tells me to do. A wife's submission to her husband is "as to the Lord" Paul tells us in our text. I am willing to do whatever it is he tells me to do. My reverence for Christ motivates me to obey him in everything he says. I am in his Word, and I am doing his Word day by day. I am doing it in my home, in the daily chores of life.

According to the apostle there is no possibility of a married woman's surrender to a heavenly Lord which is not made visible and actual by submission to her husband. See what Paul says in our text, "Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything." That is our duty, and incidentally that is our happiness, for when this command is ignored it doesn't make life better for women it actually makes life worse. There is power in Christ to do what he requires and then the Lord is exalted in our homes.


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:01 AM
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1. Paul was a sexist idiot
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:11 AM
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6. Tsk, tsk ... you submission skills need work
isn't there a man you could be baking or sewing for? :P
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:13 AM
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8. Before you pull the speck out of my eye
You ought to pull the plank out of your own!

:P
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:06 AM
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10. Ahhhhgh! I have a whole building in my eye!
I'm cooking as fast as I can!
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Doc Sardonic Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:02 AM
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2. Put down the rock pipe and slowly back away.........nt
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:09 AM
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13. My body is a temple
(insert joke about many having worshiped in it here)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:05 AM
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3. So if you don't get dinner on the table in ten minutes...
...God ceases to exist!

And Jesus wouldn't have had to die if you'd remembered the starch in my shorts. Get it in gear, honey!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:08 AM
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4. Neglecting to iron your man's socks makes Baby Jesus cry
it's true.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:09 AM
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5. You gotta be shitting me.
You actually believe that drivel. Pfffthhhh. That shit ain't happening.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:12 AM
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7. Don't stand near this one!
God's gonna smite you any second now! :)
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:14 AM
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9. That is pure Crap!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:07 AM
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11. Pure crap?
or holy shit?
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:08 AM
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12. I'm a lesbian.
Paul says nothing about me.

BTW. Paul was gay.

:evilgrin:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:10 AM
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15. God puts a funny feeling in my pants
when I hear the word "lesbian".

Uh oh, Baby Jesus is sure gonna cry over this one ...
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:17 AM
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17. *blink*
:rofl:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:10 AM
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14. Source....?
Or did you write this composite portrait of the religiously insane?
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:11 AM
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16. sadly I had to close the screen from which this tripe came
but it was quite a screed, I assure you.

Of course this is the craziest part. What fun would the sane part have been?
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:42 PM
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18. I appreciate your opinion.



But I have to hurt you now.


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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:24 PM
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23. I will turn the other cheek
I have four of them, you know.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:45 PM
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19. I'm sure RevCheesehead will have a tart reply
but in the meantime:




Jesus didn't ask that women "submit" to him. He treated us as equals.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:25 PM
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24. reverends can date, right?
I might prefer to bite the good reverend.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:31 PM
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28. Well, you might not be her type
:rofl:

But yes, Methodist Revs date. :-)
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:35 PM
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32. DOES SHE HAIL FROM THE ISLE OF LESBOS?
Tip o' the hat to Cliff Clavin ...
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:47 PM
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20. Jesus didn't say any of that crap.
Therefore, I abstain. :hi:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:26 PM
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25. Jesus said you have to listen to me
you just didn't hear him.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:32 PM
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29. I was raised Southern Baptist. I know all the tricks.
:hi:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:39 PM
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35. Jesus said you should give me your Hershey Bar
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 01:39 PM by Mizmoon
It's true!
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:43 PM
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37. HERSHEY'S?????? I think NOT.
:evilgrin: The Church of Heidi is substituting Swiss chocolate for communion crackers this year. :thumbsup:

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:01 PM
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21. Poor Jesus -- Paul screwed up Jesus' message big-time!
:cry:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:27 PM
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26. What about John out there dropping acid on Patmos?
Revelations? more like trails ...
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:33 PM
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30. Yeah, then shouldn't he have been a liberal?
:sarcasm:

:)
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:38 PM
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34. I just like to type the word "Patmos"
that's all I know.
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:17 PM
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22. And later that day, Paul's wife told him to shove it & threw his
shit & sorry ass out the door.

That passage is often overlooked.

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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:28 PM
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27. Was his wife named Lilith?
I heard another story about her ...
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:41 PM
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36. The only Lilith I know about was married to a guy named Frasier.
He thought he knew everything & she threw him out.





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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:45 PM
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38. Paul didn't have a wife
He shacked up with a guy named Barnabas...
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:07 PM
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40. Yeah, AFTER he got kicked out of the house. Actually, the submission
thing was the final straw for Paul's wife. She knew for years about the special relationship Paul had with Barnabas & she'd had enough.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:37 PM
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33. I have to come to realize that I like depriving myself of things
Apparently it makes Baby Jesus coo happily or something like that.
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:56 PM
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39. the little baby jesus
is happily making poopies in his diaper for your work for him.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:40 PM
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41. It seems to me
the good husbands don't need to demand that their wives obey

:shrug:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:41 PM
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43. I'm reminded of Angela's Ashes
When Angela's drunken husband tells her she must submit to him sexually or face eternal damnation, she replies, "As long as there are no more children, eternal damnation sounds just fine to me."
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:54 PM
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42. i hadn't notice the church submitting to christ very well
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:45 PM by liontamer
if all I need to do is drop my husband's name as an excuse for every whim I have, then I think i'll make a great wife.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:09 PM
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44. Hmm
Just looked some stuff up. One writer says that Jesus was the "spiritual wife" and submitted himself to God. Women are to submit to their husbands in this way, and their husbands are to submit to God in the same way. A lot of wrangling over the word "submit"

I noticed biblical scholar's do a lot of wiggling around this specific set of instructions. They seem to jump all around the bible finding the good stuff it says about women. Quite a bit of jumping, but when it's good, it's good

Women are also supposed to be silent in church when in the presence of men. That sounds a bit familiar. They are also supposed to cover their hair or just cut it off or shave thier head in shame.

One writer says this is meant to be "a spiritual covering, and not to be taken literally"

I'm not a Christian, but I looked up some spitfire websites with Christian women answering the questions, and they don't seem to believe in any of that shit at all. Good for them. I can see where one can be a feminist AND a Christian. Which, as a agnostic/boderline atheist feminist, makes me feel a lot better.

I didn't look at the tired old fundie crap, which is always about control.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:21 PM
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45. The best explanation I've heard
is that those verses are directed to woman, and men have no business trying to force anyone to submit.

Of course, I'm not a literalist, so it's all open to interpetation IMO.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:25 PM
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46. I HATE the term "submit."
I have never "submitted" in my life. :eyes:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:30 PM
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47. Do you think Joel Osteen's wife is submissive in this way?
Hmm. Maybe that's why she got thrown off that airplane the other day. She finally snapped! :)
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