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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:03 AM
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Scientific Study: Men With Big Brains Have Tiny Testicles
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:04 AM by matcom
:hide: DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER GUYS :hide:

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WOMEN have suspected it for millennia, and scientists have finally proved it - men cannot have both big brains and big testicles.

Brainiacs and scholars everywhere may gnash their teeth, but according to a recent study of bats, nature forces the males of a species to make a painful trade-off between mental capacity and sperm production.

Because of the high-energy demands of both brains and sperm, scientists believe males cannot generate large amounts of both.

Bats were ideal subjects for the study. Some female bat species are unusually promiscuous, so natural selection led to males evolving enormous testicles in order to compete with more virile suitors - however at the expense of their brain capacity.

Male bats from less promiscuous species, in which the female is guarded by a single partner, had relatively large brains.

While ape species feature testicles ranging from 0.2 to 0.75 per cent of their body mass, certain types of bats boast testicles up to 8.5 per cent of their mass.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17490140-13762,00.html
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:07 AM
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1. Then I'm the exception to the rule.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:15 AM
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2. HA HA HA
:rofl:
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:50 AM
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30. pity you
small brain AND testicles i presume?
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:25 PM
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56. Heh. Nope.
Large brain (did very well on my SATS), but was joking about the sack. For it to even be 1% of my body weight, it'd have to weigh 2.5 pounds. It's big, but not that big!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:27 AM
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3. um, it's not the size of the testicles that matter
:hide:
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:08 AM
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7. It does if she's not monogamous.
Greater sperm production = greater chance of reproduction if the female is being inseminated by more than one male.

There are analogs for this among the different primate species. A male gorilla has relatively small testicles, because he doesn't need lots of sperm; the females in his harem are unlikely to mate with any other male. On the other end of the spectrum, a female chimpanzee in heat will bonk every functioning male in the tribe several times a day. A male chimp is therefore greatly endowed in the sack department, because his sperm are up against heavy competition and they need a big team.

Before you ask, humans are between those two extremes.

So what this means is, on average, men with larger brains have a lesser chance of reproducing... even on the off chance they can get laid.

Of course, in this age of affordable birth control, a woman with multiple partners has some control over which of them, if any, impregnates her. The biology is still there, however.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:40 AM
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4. Ah..Than I guess that i an knot ass smart as i thougt i am.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:42 AM
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5. Yeah ~ but, if you've got the brains the quality should improve immensely!
It all starts in the mind!
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:45 AM
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6. That's such a relief.
To know I'll never need one of these:
http://www.bigducky.com/funny_extreme_videos/nuts.htm
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:10 AM
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8. oh my ...








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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:18 AM
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13. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Holy shit!

:D
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:57 PM
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53. Thank you Wesley
that is the funniest thing I've seen for a while. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:35 AM
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71. What the?!?
:rofl:
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:40 PM
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81. That is the funniest thing I have seen in months. n/t
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:13 AM
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9. ....
Why do you hate men so much?

:cry:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:14 AM
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11. don't know
i'm too dumb to know why
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:20 AM
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14. Um...
:wow:


:loveya:

























:rofl:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:14 AM
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10. I wonder what Rush will say about THIS today
Talent..on loan from GOD!!!
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:18 AM
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12. As for the testicles .... well, let's just not go there.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:37 AM
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15. Not true
That is about the most pseudoscientific crapola I have ever read since we had The Meeting Room here on DU.

Some of our bodies CAN multitask, thank you. :-)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:41 AM
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16. I guess I was smart enough to choose to have big balls
what do I need a brain for anyway?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:43 AM
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17. Women have suspected it for millennia?
I call bullsh*t. Never heard of this before. However, I do know a few really good-looking smart men. I wonder if they would be willing to participate in a new scientific survey I'm conducting. }(
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lakemonster11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:10 PM
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38. I've heard it implied before that men
can only run one at a time (brain or genitals), but I haven't heard specifically that men either have large testicles or a large brain. In fact, I've never heard a single woman make any sort of comment about the size of a guy's testicles. Penis, yes---testicles, no.

To quote Bree from Desperate Housewives:
"To be honest, the only thing I don’t like about sex is the scrotum. I mean, obviously it has its practical applications, but I’m just not a fan."

;)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:54 AM
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18. Well, since the article comes from Australia, there's only one response...
I'm ever upper class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I've got
The biggest balls of all

CHORUS:
I've got big balls
I've got big balls
And they're such big balls
Dirty big balls
And he's got big balls
And she's got big balls
But we've got the biggest balls of them all

And my balls are always bouncing
My ballroom always full
And everybody cums and cums again
If your name is on the guest list
No one can take you higher
Everybody says I've got
Great balls of fire

CHORUS

Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure
They're the balls that I like best
My balls are always bouncing
To the left and to the right
It's my belief that my big balls
Should be held every night

CHORUS

And I'm just itching to tell you about them
Oh we had such wonderful fun
Seafood cocktail, crabs, crayfish...
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:56 AM
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19. Wow matcom...you must be PACKIN'
:wow:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:30 PM
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59. ROFL!
:P :P
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:01 AM
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20. bats and balls......
there's a joke in there somewhere, but i can't quite get my hands around it.......
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:29 PM
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57. !
:rofl:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:06 AM
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21. I know for a fact this is NOT true
:evilgrin:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:14 AM
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23. How?
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:33 AM
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24. Well, you obviously don't believe me because it doesn't apply to you
Sorry.


:P
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:38 AM
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25. I'll vouch for him.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:38 AM
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26. TMI
:D
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:46 AM
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29. TMI?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:54 AM
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32. I'm sorry. Could you repeat that? I didn't hear you.
I was distracted by................. :wow:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #24
80. oooooooooooooooooooooo
DAMN
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:56 AM
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33. Me, too. But your fact is not my fact.
My fact is a frigging genius and we only to had to use the same towel to conceive.

I know, I know...TMI.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:00 PM
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36. Insemination by locker-room-towel-ass-snap?
Oh fuck, I think I just debunked the immaculate conception.

Joseph whipped Mary with his cumrag

























:hide:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Nice image, but
our boudoir is certainly not a locker room....it has candles.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:23 PM
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42. hehe
Some guys just have a difficult time believing both are possible here.

:D
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:58 AM
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34. are you sure?
My understanding is that the study only applies to males with something huge .

So, just knowing someone with tiny testicles and a tiny brain doesn't invalidate the result.

:hide:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:29 PM
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47. oh .. I'm sure
:P
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:10 AM
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22. I hope they get that fact straight in the next Batman movie
n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:45 AM
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27. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:46 AM
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28. hmmmm
Does this mean you get smarter after a vasectomy? Not to solicit thread blocking medical advice :)

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Err Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:50 AM
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31. I have a big brain...
so I guess that means I have small testicles. :eyes:

Oh well. I didn't want kids anyways. :)

Besides, it's not the size of the testicles that matter...it's the size of the...brain...what'd you think I was going to say? :evilgrin:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:00 PM
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35. That's a complete phallacy. (nt)
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #35
40. ROTFLMAO!
:spray:

Yay! Another NNG on this thread!

The brain cell count here was alarmingly low til you showed up, darlin'!

;)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:50 PM
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43. Dearest Shari,
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 12:54 PM by Heidi
I've just returned from an afternoon of Christmas shopping on the day-most-rued: Wednesday, when all the school children are unleashed for the afternoon to impede my path and whisper in Italian dialect about the color of my hair.

This being said, you'll understand that I've hardly a brain cell remaining to contribute to this most worthwhile ( :eyes: ) discussion of appendages and dangling participles.

In short ( :evilgrin: ) what I'm asking is, what's an NNG? Naughty Nighthawks Girl? :shrug:

Respectfully submitted,

Heidi
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:59 PM
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54. Hi Heidi, sounds like quite an afternoon
What color is your hair? Hope the shopping went ok, you got good stuff regardless of amazing kidlets.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:39 AM
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74. Hiya, uppityperson!
I'm a natural redhead, which makes me an anomaly here in this very Italian part of Switzerland.

I was really, really, really (and did I mention _really_ ) glad to get home yesterday. (Got my little brother and exquisite Caran d'Ache fountain pen, though. :thumbsup: )

:pals:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #35
60. LOL.
:rofl:

:D
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #35
65. Or..
... phallusy :)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #35
72. LMAO!
:rofl:

Heidi, you're bad.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #72
75. But I'm in such good-but-bad company . . .
like you, darlin'. How ya doin', my lovely freckled gf? :hug: :loveya:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:11 PM
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76. I'm good.
Waiting on a snow storm to start tonight. :woohoo:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:11 PM
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39. How do you explain O'Reilly? No brains or balls.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:33 PM
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61. Far too big a bat.
We know already he's just a massive dick.

:P :P :evilgrin:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:13 PM
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41. maybe the female bats are like Juile "I like em Big and Stupid!" Brown...
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 12:14 PM by bettyellen
funny that never occured to the small and smart scientists....
:rofl:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:52 PM
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44. I know what you want for Christmas
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7567775239&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1

But I'm deeply afraid if we gave it to you, you'd end up needing a brain donor just to breathe.

:hi:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:53 PM
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45. Given my druthers, I'll take the big brains every time
(as long as the balls are basically functional) :evilgrin:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:01 PM
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46. "scientists believe males cannot generate large amounts of both"
Well now, I suppose that makes me a freak of nature.

I aughta be in Ripley's...

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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:33 PM
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48. I just got a vasectomy! Does that mean I'll be smart soon???
I sure as hell hope so!

david
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:38 PM
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49. George Bush proof it doesn't always work out. Small brain, small balls.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:44 PM
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50. Societal structures alter this somewhat, imo. Some women go for the
power and often brains and power go together (George Bush is an exception).
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:54 PM
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51. Smart guys tuck them up tight so they don't get hurt.
Simple. Those knee hangers have a tendency to get hurt more.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:56 PM
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52. I'm Smart Enough, They're Big Enough and Doggone it.....
My Wife Likes Me.......
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:14 PM
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55. It's true - Cheney proves it!



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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:25 PM
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58. I will shoot you! Testicle size is not related to sperm production!
Check out this guy who must make quarts at a time then according to this feeble theory!

http://www.theflyingsaucer.com/fs9-2.htm

What's next?

Larger breasts produce more milk?

Larger brains, more thoughts?

No relationship. This is hogwash.

Wishing pants had breather space :blush: whilst I contemplate the collision of Andromeda and the Milky Way,

Red Cloud
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:34 PM
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62. um, er, what you talken abot
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:45 PM
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63. I..I mean...I have a friend...
who has both. His dangling participants are allegedly at least somewhat larger than average (so he's been told, though he's still not sure he believes it), and his mind isn't completely shot. He is also a studmuffin and all you womyn of DU should probably send him topless photos of yourself. I will pass them on for you.

The fact is that I've read studies on size of the aforementioned units, in humans and otherwise, and perhaps the main conclusion to be drawn from such studies is that it'd be weird to be one of the techs working on it. A priori, I'd have to say that this report sounds like garbage. Comparative anatomy, physiology, and behavior can reveal much, but we are not bats and I doubt that the relative sizes and energetic requirements of brain and testes are in the same ballpark (so to speak) -- it says in the article that bats are way different from primates in relative mass off the testicular tissue. The reportage doesn't help, either, because no credible scientist would say such conclusions were "firmly proven" or use the word "tiny" in contrast to large brain size. But it might have secured tenure for someone and supported a few graduate research assistants for a while so I guess it wasn't a complete waste of time. It might also -- this 'expensive tissue' hypothesis -- be true in bats and in some other species, but that doesn't mean it's a universally true pattern.

By the way, vulnerable gonadal units in male humans are not necessarily adaptive above a certain size...ideally, all men would be able to retract at will, for one thing. Though there may be deep, dark, evolutionary stories behind relative testicular sizes within species -- humans included (I've read some stuff to that effect, about humans, but can't recall details) -- I never understood the spurious link many seem to make, AC/DC included, between that and virility, machismo, or general masculinity. If anything, they're bigger targets. Ouch.

And, yeah, some pants I've worn were like slapping the old fella and his hangers-on in the iron maiden. Women suffer for fashion, but men don't always get away with it scot free, either.

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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:53 PM
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64. 8.5%, that's huge!
for a 200lb guy, that'd be 17lbs! no thanks, I'll keep my brains :D
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:06 PM
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66. It IS a burden, let me tell you
Though 12 pounds of it is not testicular, but adjacent, tissue.
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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:09 PM
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67. flabby thighs, eh?
:evilgrin:
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:18 PM
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68. Bwhahahahahahaha
Any woman could've told us that.

Seriously. You can't be both testosterone-fuelled and logical/thoughtful. Man or woman.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:27 AM
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69. So the next time I go for a job interview, will they have me drop trou?
:rofl:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:30 AM
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70. So THAT'S why stupid people breed like rabbits.
I always had my suspicions... :evilgrin:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:46 AM
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73. This describes my husband, literally and figuratively. n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:14 PM
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77. Do Your Balls Hang Low?
Can you swing them to an fro?
Can you tie them in a knot?
Can you tie them in a bow?
Do you get a funny feeling,
When you smash them on the ceiling?
You'll never have a big brain if you're balls hang low.
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:37 PM
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78. Is it possible the researchers made it all up? After all, they're
probably brainiacs. No-nut brainiacs.

Frankly, I'm surprised they didn't prove that a small penis means increased intelligence.



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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:52 PM
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79. How ridiculous.
Besides... small ones are eas...


nevermind.
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