Is this redundant? "The deadly dangers of meth"

[KitchenWitch]

:shrug:

[philosophie_en_rose]

1. There could be non-deadly dangers of meth.

Like looking like a starved person bitten by a zombie, losing one's job and family, etc.

[Angry Girl]

2. Well, some of that I'll put on meth, but the rest is on the laws

Granted, meth will f*ck up your health, but putting a meth addict in prison for possession will undeniably screw up their lives: Now the poor sunuvabitch is denied federal student aid, has more trouble finding work because of a felony record, possibly loses his/her kids to foster care, etc.

URGENT! Timing is critical to save freezing earthquake victims!

[KitchenWitch]

3. I totally agree with the decriminalization of drugs.

[philosophie_en_rose]

7. Are you for food standards? Environmental Health?

Say that pot were legal, would it be okay to lace pot with poison?

Would it be okay for a person to use drugs and 'cook' up meth in an unsafe, highly explosive, environmentally crippling so-called 'lab'?

Food is legal, but there are still some basic standards. If drugs are decriminalized, shouldn't there still be standards? Wouldn't it be a little like allowing drug companies to fire their researchers and put any old phony medication on the market?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. If the pot is sold in an ABC store, no problems with that.

[khashka]

14. That's the point

What you are saying is exactly the situation we have now. That has to change.

There isn't a single society known that hasn't had drug use. It's basic to the human condition. Most societies have regulated it to some extent, which is what we should do. A flat ban only creates a black market and drug lords and gangs and crime. As well as a product that is cut with harmful substances in order to make a bigger profit. It's simply wrong on so many levels.

Khash.

[philosophie_en_rose]

5. No. Most of its on the meth.

Meth cuts across socio-economic level, gender, and race.

It literally eats away at the brain, changing brain chemistry forever. It's so intense to be on it, that it often leads to parents not being able to take care of their kids. Who are either neglected or harmed due to the meth.

Meth is so damned toxic that detoxification teams have to go in Hazmat suits. It's highly explosive. Chemicals literally drip out of a Meth users' skin, creating burnt scabs.

It doesn't make a difference whether a person goes to jail. Meth ruins lives. Meth is not some people smoking pot to relax. Meth is deadly.

I have personally worked with several meth addicts that are so brain damaged due to meth that they can no longer function in society. Ever. Jail is completely irrelevant to that. If anything, jail is a blessing, because it prevents a person addicted to meth to take more.

I'm all for the regulation and use for medicinal drugs, but arguments that apply to pot simply do not apply to meth.

[Angry Girl]

8. I also known enough people who've used meth and are still just fine

Why is it that one has to drag out the worst possible abusers when trying to defend the present drug law philosophy?

Some people can't handle their drugs, their alcohol, their gambling, their food, their sexual impulses, their children, their job, or anything else that their lives happen to cross.

Why are THEY the bloody examples all the time? Just because they may have a genetic thing that makes them more of an addictive personality? Just because these folk are lousy at controlling their impulses and making life decisions?

What about all the people who use meth and heroin and morphine and codeine and Valium and Xanax and Ritalin and Ambien and Snickers Bars and don't fall over the deep end? You never hear about these fairly well-adjusted folks, nooooooo! Just the radical deviants in our society. We don't like to hear about the stock brokers and the doctors and the judges and the generally well-to-do who partake in a little partying.

For example, look at all the morbidly obese people in the U.S. There's a fast food pusher on every street corner. And let's not forget about the state-run lotteries where addicted gamblers can piss their lives away. According to your philosophy of harm reduction, the stores should be shut down to save these people....

I don't need or want the government to be my parent.

[SteppingRazor]

9. Yeah! What you said!

:thumbsup:

[anarch]

13. Indeed

and I've known a few people who drank themselves to death, too...which was legal, mostly, just stupid.

And as for "I don't need or want the government to be my parent" -- RIGHT ON!!! :thumbsup:


As a disclaimer, I don't personally care for meth, and I understand where people are coming from when they totally despise it for what it can do to those who abuse it...I just feel like the stupid drug laws really do have at least as much to do with the problem as all the bad-for-you substances in the world combined.

[Left Is Write]

11. I agree with you.

I also have personal experience with a meth addict.

[Broken_Hero]

4. meth is dangerous?....since when?

I use it all the time, and i don't see anything wrong with it...:P

[philosophie_en_rose]

6. Chem labs run by drug addicts are completely safe, right?

:silly:

[Angry Girl]

12. Maybe safer than the chem labs run by the corrupt suits at Pfizer

or Monsanto. Perhaps even more so if you count the economic and environmental damage caused by the pollution and run off from their plants. At least when a meth lab blows up, it doesn't contaminate an entire community and the whole river.

Sure, meth is bad for you. I'm not advocating it but I'm totally against these blanket "drugs are bad" statement when most of the problem concerns the way our society defines and treats drug abusers.

[hfojvt]

15. since when is

math dangerous?
It's a lie.
Your head will not explode.
They are only numbers, letters, and equations. They will not bite.
Math never sacrificed any virgins on a full moon. It is they; they who do the killing.
Math does not kill people, engineers do, when they work for the MIC.

[Oeditpus Rex]

16. Drugs themselves aren't 'bad'

Misuse of them is. Just like anything else.

Problem is, no one has yet figured out how to wage a War On Bad Judgement.