Rock Hall of Fame Announces Inductees (Sabbath, Miles, Sex Pistols!)

[jefferson_dem]

:headbang:

Terrific crop this round, i must say...!

Rock Hall of Fame Announces Inductees

Black Sabbath, Miles Davis and the Sex Pistols are among five musical legends to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation will hold its induction ceremony March 13 at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Manhattan, the organization announced Monday.

Also to be inducted into the class of 2006: 1980s New Wave band Blondie and Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss, who founded A&M records in 1962, will receive a lifetime achievement award in the non-performer category.

Inductees into the side-men category will be announced at a later date.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051128/ap_en_mu/music_rock_hall

[HardWorkingDem]

1. Where's Mellencamp?!?!

Don't tell me he didn't make it. If so, what BS. Blondie before Mellencamp?

What really irks me is that Bob Seger made it before Mellencamp and how can an organization ignore a person like Mellencamp that is always out there talking about freedom of expression and free speech.

What crap.

Black Sabbath?!?! WTF?!?!

[jefferson_dem]

3. Don't know about J. Mellen Cougercamp.

I recommend you find and play one song - Paranoid - as i suspect that would help explain the "WTF" about Sabbath.

[MissMillie]

6. I'm not a huge Mellencamp fan

but I definitely think his contributions are more notable than both Seger (:puke:) or Black Sabbath.

[Drifter]

30. Opinion ...

lets argue about colors (it will be just as meaningful).

And time has EVERYTHING to do with it, as time is a fair judge.
You will not find any 1 hit wonders inducted into the Hall of Fame (I hope).
You will find those who have spent a majority of their career (many times an entire generation) producing work.

Cheers
Drifter

Damn it, this was intended to be a Reply to another post

[Drifter]

21. Blondie was around ...

long before Mellonballs.


Cheers
Drifter

[HardWorkingDem]

22. It has nothing to do with time, or so I thought...

just what has Blondie added to rock music other than meaningless blathering about her formerly time as a Playboy Bunny.

Mellencamp has been one in a long line to add at least integrity to rock and roll - FarmAid, free speech issues, speaking out, focusing on roots music, et cetera.

[Megahurtz]

28. Deborah Harry (Blondie) has a lot more music history behind her

Read up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Harry

Mellencamp basically doesn't have any music history.

[Jamastiene]

56. I must be weird or something. I like both Blondie

and Mellencamp. It's 25 years since the first top 10 hit, I believe before they can be inducted. You can bet Mellencamp will go in sometime in the near future too. Need not worry.

[HardWorkingDem]

62. Yes, I know it is 25 yrs, but Mellencamp's growth and...

his passion for music and free expression and speech has eclipsed so many of the artists all ready inducted.

For anyone who doesn't see Mellencamp's "history" go buy The Lonesome Jubilee and Big Daddy. His growth from Scarecrow to those was amazing.

It was like listening to a different artist.

I'm not trying to start any sort of argument, but Mellencamp has done much more for music (not the music industry) than many others all ready inducted.

[Drifter]

31. See "Opinion ..." reply above

I post my reply to the wrong post.

Cheers
Drifter

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Huh?

Blondie was around at the launch of the American New Wave movement. They were contemporaries of Television, Talking Heads, et al and they were among the first to incorporate elements of disco & soul rhythms to the punk/wave ethos.

Seems like enough to me.
The Professor

[Felix Mala]

35. Second time he's been dissed... I hope 3rd time is the charm.

Of course, when they come around, we can half expect John to say, "Oh yeah, you come around now? Well, I'm busy that night..."

[HardWorkingDem]

63. I hope he does.....

What really, really ticks me off about this entire selection is that Mellencamp has always been about expression and speech and this rotten industry seems to have completely ignore that. Guess maybe he has pissed them off or something.

Maybe the song Pop Singer was his albatross.

[Loonman]

2. A&M Records

Should know, I guess, is that A&M signed the Sex Pistols after EMI dropped them and pressed God Save The Queen on the A&M label.

Alpert and Moss then wussed out, paid the Pistols $24,000 and kicked them off A&M. Then they destroyed all the copies of God Save The Queen. Only a few survive.

[blm]

16. Remember the version of My Way in Mr. Mike's Mondo Video?

Classic.

[tigereye]

24. one of the first punk songs I ever heard on the radio

we were stunned!

[XNASA]

4. Who will induct the Pistols?

And then play a selection with them?

Mick Jones???

[jefferson_dem]

8. Mick would be great.

No offense to the Green Days and other "contemporaries" but i sure hope someone with some "gravitas" (i hate that word but it works here) does the honors. Maybe the surviving members of the Pistols will do like the Clash did two years ago - graciously accept the recognition, raise a bit of hell, and then sit down without playing at all.

[XNASA]

10. All four original Pistols are still living.....

..and have played together in recent years. I can see it happening.

[jefferson_dem]

12. Thanks for that bit of info. I didn't know the guys were still playing

together. Unfortunately, i've been out of that loop for...far too long.

[blm]

37. Still playing, still playing soccer, even.

heh.....

There was a rumor a while back that Ian Astbury was going to front the Pistols, but the truth was they were all just playing soccer together.

[XNASA]

51. I thought Astbury was fronting the Doors.

I can't imagine Steve Jones playing soccer.

[blm]

53. Astbury is fronting the Doors. The old rumor was back during 94 World Cup

and they were all playing together in the celebrity soccer game in LA.

Steve Jones is actually a pretty good soccer player (he was in good shape back then) - Ian is pretty tough, too.

It was also the last time I saw George Best on a soccer field.

[Loonman]

57. He'll never do it

No love lost between the Clash and the Pistols. Still.

[Loonman]

18. LOL

Then The Police get back together to record.

[WCGreen]

5. Play Free Bird, Man......

I detest that song....

Lynard Synard is just a bar band...

Trite, loud and not very talented...

One more nail in the credibility of that monstrosity on the lake....

[MissMillie]

7. Agreed

:applaud:

No use for Skynard... at all.

[WCGreen]

9. Great minds think alike......

[Bluzmann57]

11. Well, I like 'em

And make no apologies about it. But I suspect that we are from two different generations as well as two different backgrounds. It doesn't matter. But you may want to spell the name of the band correctly. It's Lynyrd Skynyrd, not Lynard Skynard. Helluva guitar attack and entertaining. I saw the original and enjoyed he hell out of them. Think I should play some right now.

[Guitarman]

13. I have to agree!!

Glad to see Skynyrd make it finally. I never had the chance to see the original lineup. But I have seen them with Johnny Van Zant many times and I have never been dissappointed.

[WCGreen]

17. Sorry.... I thought they were over rated when they came out...

I thought they were nothing more than Bob Seager South....

And I don't think Bob Seager belongs in the Hall of Fame either...

I'm 48...

To me having Synyrd in the Hall is like electing Bucky Dent to the Baseball Hall of Fame...

One or two good riffs does not make for election into the Hall of Fame...

Give me Two Steps to the door....

[Guitarman]

19. To each his own.

It is impossible to quantify something as subjective as musical tastes. Something like the RnR HOF has to come down to what a particular artist has brought to their particular genre of rock and roll. More than any other band, Skynyrd is Southern Rock. Unless of course you are a Allman Brothers fan. I am sure that they will want to disagree on that. lol!

[WCGreen]

26. It's just I think someone going into a hall of fame

has to not only have one or two great defining songs, but a career to back it up....

I didn;t think the Pretenders belonged last year and I love them.. they are from the area....

[jandrok]

40. I'd politely disagree, Skynyrd belongs.

And I'm not a huge fan. Skynyrd was hugely popular in the 70's, and they had a number of AOR hits to back up the career. You still can't turn on a classic rock station without hearing them.

Gimme Three Steps
Sweet Home Alabama
What's That Smell?
Gimme Back my Bullets
Freebird
They Call Me the Breeze

All of those songs and more are classics, whether you like the style or not. One could even construct an argument that says that Skynyrd was a forerunner of today's predominant Nashville country sound (witness Skynyrd's continued popularity with the "country" crowd), and as such, was more influential than most people give them credit for.

[AntiCoup2K4]

41. I'd agree that the ORIGINAL Skynyrd deserves the induction.....

...but not this tribute band, one original member, with little brother singing because his own career failed JOKE that the band has turned into.

Just as with Sabbath, they better be inducting the original band. I could live with Dio's name being mentioned, but I'd puke if they bring up all those crappy solo albums Iommi released under the name between 1986 - 1996

[Bluzmann57]

48. Two original members

Gary Rossington and Billy Powell. I think they most likely inducted Skynyrd on the basis of their first four L.P.s. which were very very good. As another poster said, they, along with the Allman Brothers Band define Southern Rock. And The Allman Bros. were and are, a Blues Band first and foremost. I stand unapologetic, I love Skynyrd and the Allman Brothers Band. I don't give a damn about their politics or what others may think about them, I love 'em.

[Oeditpus Rex]

66. Just for the record (no pun intended)

Skynyrd only covered "Call Me the Breeze," which was written by J.J. Cale. His version is much sweeter.

[jandrok]

69. True enough.

And I've heard Cale's version, and it's much more laid back. Still, the LS version is the one that still gets more airplay.

[Orsino]

52. They used to be something much finer.

Sort of a loud, stupid Allmans. That was a good thing.

Ronnie Van Zandt sang off-key, but in a marvelous way that still holds surprises for me.

[DBoon]

14. Will they ever induct Link Wray?

RIP

[Beware the Beast Man]

15. About friggin time with the Sabbath induction!

I know Ozzy at one point got fed up and asked them to take Sabbath out of the running, but still- they are one of the most influential bands of all time, music snobs be damned.

[jandrok]

38. Countless bands owe them a nod.

They virtually defined heavy metal. To NOT have them there would have been a travesty.

[Ekirh]

20. SABBATH!

WOOT . . . . think I'll go listen to some Sweet Leaf in celebration.


Not huge on Lynyrd Skynyrd but they have a few songs here and there I like so congrats to them as well.


Heh Blondie . . . nothing against Blondie . . but I didn't see that one coming . . . at least this year.

[realisticphish]

27. just fyi

:rofl: to your sigline

[bbernardini]

23. No Todd Rundgren or Utopia?

Or has Todd been inducted, and I missed it?

[ProfessorGAC]

47. I Think Maybe He's In

Not sure, though. I know Utopia is not in a HoF.
The Professor

[tigereye]

25. Miles and the Pistols and Blondie!

yay!

:woohoo: :bounce:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

29. Well, fuck, 'tis about damn TIME for Miles.

:woohoo::woohoo:

I salute thee, jazz great.

:patriot:

[yorgatron]

32. Miles Davis?

how is he rock and roll??? :shrug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

39. He's NOT, but he's still inducted.

These days it's not only r&r; it's just good musicians in general.

Again, I salute thee, jazz king.

:patriot:

[Orsino]

54. Well, he added some magnificent rock to his mix...

...from Bitches Brew on. If nothing else, he gave pretentious rock musicians someone cool to cite as an influence.

[WCGreen]

68. He also mainstreamed the lead patterns that Rock guitarists

started to use in their music....

[GumboYaYa]

71. Miles had a major impact on Rock.....

Starting with "In a Silent Way" Miles reconceived jazz, emphasizing afrocentric beats as the base of his music and improvising over the top of that. "Bitches Brew" is the best expression of this and is one of the greatest percussion albums (Rock or Jazzz) ever recorded. Fundamentally it is the equivalent of using the backbeat to drive rock n roll but reinterpreted in a jazz context.

Miles frequently opened for the Gratefil Dead during this time in is career. When you hear "Dark Star" or Drums from a Dead concert, you are hearing Miles Davis' influence on Rock.

Miles also was very close to Jimi Hendrix and both had significant impact on the other. Listen to "Aghartha" sometime, it is basically an ode to Hendrix. Out of the Miles/Hendrix collaboration and friendship the whole genre of jazz/rock fusion was born.

[BulletproofLandshark]

33. Where's Rush and Deep Purple goddammit?!

Both bands should've been inducted years ago. The fans should get a little bit of input into who gets in, instead of just Jann Wenner and his merry band of high and mighty music snob dipshits. But it's nice to see Sabbath finally get their due.

[AntiCoup2K4]

45. If they induct Deep Purple, WHO exactly gets inducted?

Obviously the classic lineup (the one with both Gillan and Blackmore) would be the ones who were deserving. Maybe the original singer Rod Evans,and bassist Nic Simper, since "Hush" was a huge hit.

But do you induct David Covercheeseball? Joe Limp Turner? :puke:
All the other half assed replacements who have drifted in and out of the band since the REAL Purple once again split in the early 90's?

This is probably what made the Sabbath and Skynyrd inductments late, just the question of WHO exactly is counted among the inducted members of the band.

[Initech]

34. About time with Black Sabbath! Woohoo!

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[maveric]

36. Is Ike Turner the Ty Cobb of the R&R Hall of Fame?

A great talent and influence on the early days of R&R, but a maniacal abusive, hateful, asshole.

[kwassa]

42. Nah, he is the Pete Rose of the R&R Hall of Fame ....

[maveric]

43. Ike is in the Hall. With Tina of course.

Pete Rose is not in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

[kwassa]

44. I've committed an error

There goes my stats.

[Bluzmann57]

49. I saw Turner earlier this year

at the Mississippi Valley Blues Fest and I was disappointed. He is doing nothing but trying to recreate the Ike and Tina Turner Revue, and the woman is nowhere as talented as Tina Turner is.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

64. No, he's the Shoeless Joe Jackson

only in this case "shoeless" because he was beating Tina with it.

Maybe he can be inducted into the R&RHoF when Shoeless Joe makes it into the BBHoF.

[CarlWoodward]

50. Great News

It's wonderful that the brilliant Miles Davis is being recognized for his contributions to Rock 'n Roll. His 1970s jazz-rock albums (Bitches Brew, A Tribute to Jack Johnson, On The Corner, Agharta, Pangea, and others) were some of the best rock music recorded during that decade.

[Jamastiene]

55. Yay, Blondie and the Sex Pistols. Yippeee! I love them both. n/t

[DancingBear]

58. This is a funny thread

In baseball, people argue all the time whether a .250 lifetime hitter should be in The Hall of Fame because he played 20 years and (eventually) led all shortstops in runs batted in.

I guess it happens in music, too. :)

Let's see - on one hand - Blondie, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Sex Pistols.
on the other hand - Beatles, Beach Boys, Rolling Stones.

"but they lead all shortstops in runs batted in!"

Carry on.

[Zomby Woof]

59. Skynyrd's induction is WAY overdue

The greatest American rock band of all time. Ronnie Van Zant had more soul and brains in his little finger than 1,000 preening and prancing poseurs who occupy the spotlight these days.

Fuck it anyway. Mojo Nixon was right when he called it the "Rock and Roll Hall of Lame."

[GrpCaptMandrake]

65. Good to see someone

giving Skynrd the props they deserve.

Who was it, the Who, maybe, who got boo'd when they took the stage after Skynrd in England?

Anyone with a real appreciation for Skynrd should check out the Drive By Truckers' "Southern Rock Opera."

The spirit lives.

[Zomby Woof]

70. Pete Townshend chose them to open

On their 1973 Quadrophenia tour, he chose them to open for them in the U.S., when Skynyrd's debut came out. He really admired their work.

They idolized the Stones, and they even had the same management eventually. They overshadowed the Stones at the 1976 Knebworth Festival in England. The Stones were talking retirement after that tour, and it showed in their lackluster performances.

"Southern Rock Opera" is easily one of the best albums of all time, in my view. I love the DBT's!

[Dr Fate]

60. Why not just put a statue of Johnny Rotten at fucking Disney World?

I hate the Classic Rock Hall of Fame- it is everything the idea of Rock & Roll is not.

Exhibits? I dont need a fucking VH1 exhibit- I need 2 speakers and a decent needle.

If you want a Rock & Roll Hall of fame, roll one up & come listen to Dr. Fate's LP collection.

While all the "rockers" are hanging out at the "Classic Rock" Disney land, I'll be listening to my Chuck Berry monos.

Thanks for listening

[MrSlayer]

61. I hope Ozzy continues to refuse entry into this fraudulent entity.

The RnR HoF is a joke.

[newyawker99]

67. This is a bad bunch of inductees.

Let's face it. All the great artists are already in
the Hall of Fame and each year the
selections will get worse.

[Kolesar]

72. The Sex Pistols?

Apparently you don't have to display musical genius to get in there. One good album with about three good songs.

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