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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:52 PM
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Poll question: Your favorite individual from Ancent Greece
From all stages of Ancient Greece.

Pericles:


Plato:


Socrates:


Aristotle:


Archimedes:


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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:53 PM
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1. Diogenes. (nt)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:55 PM
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2. Heraclitus of Ephesus
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 03:11 PM by Fenris
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:05 PM
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3. Who was Heraclitus?
I tried the link, but it's not working.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:15 PM
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4. Heraclitus was a pre-Socratic philosopher
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 03:16 PM by Fenris
He believed that everything came from fire and that stability was merely an illusion. His famous aphorism was "everything flows, nothing stands still."

Also:

"We both step and do not step in the same rivers.
We are and are not."
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:20 PM
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5. Sounds like an early Western Buddhist
or maybe the Greek school of philosophy that said "nothing can really be known".
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:21 PM
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6. Actually, he was a contemporary of Siddhartha.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:24 PM
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7. Interesting how developments in thought
have historically coincided independently from one another. Like when Newton and Leibniz independently discovered the calculus. This Heraclitus/Siddhartha thing might have been a similar phenomenon.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:29 PM
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12. Amen, bro
Heraclitus had it going ON.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:29 PM
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8. Other: Democritus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus
Democritus was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher (born at Abdera in Thrace around 460 BC; died in 370 BC). Democritus was a student of Leucippus, and co-originator of the belief that all matter is made up of various imperishable indivisible elements which he called "atomos", from which we get the English word atom. It is virtually impossible to tell which of these ideas were unique to Democritus, and which are attributable to Leucippus.

Democritus is also the first philosopher we know who realized that what we perceive as the Milky Way is the light of distant stars. Other philosophers, including later Aristotle, argued against this. Democritus was among the first to propose that the universe contains many worlds, some of them inhabited:

"In some worlds there is no Sun and Moon, in others they are larger than in our world, and in others more numerous. In some parts there are more worlds, in others fewer (...); in some parts they are arising, in others failing. There are some worlds devoid of living creatures or plants or any moisture."

Democritus is said to have had a happy disposition, and is sometimes referred to as the "laughing philosopher," as opposed to Heraclitus, who is known as the "weeping philosopher." In the Divine Comedy Dante sees the shade of Heraclitus in Limbo with those of other classical philosophers. (...)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:35 PM
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9. King Leonidas
Marched to his doom and ironically saved Western civilization.

Spartans not nice folks but, what the heck, I'm not a Helot.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:56 PM
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10. Bobopolis the pub owner nt
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:24 PM
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11. Aesop n/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:31 PM
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13. Bifficles
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 04:32 PM by Rabrrrrrr
The Ancient Greek who drank too much beer, originated the "pull my finger" gag, and had his own section at the sport arena for him and his buddies where they ate primitive cheese doodles, and who hung outside his home constantly improving his chariot with new gadgets.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:13 PM
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16. Wasn't that Bubbacles?
It's easy to confuse the two. Bifficles tended to imbibe Chardonnay and tinker with expensive chariots. Bubbacles was into beer and usually had a lot of broken chariots in his yard that needed work.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:54 PM
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22. Of course, you are correct! I get mt Greeks constantly mixed up.
Of course, it was Bubbacles who had the first chariot on blocks in his front lawn, and not Bifficles, who was the first collector of antique chariots.


:rofl:

You rock!! That was a perfectly hilarious - and correct - correction!
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:10 PM
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14. Plato. He had the secret of civilisation nailed down.
"Good men need no orders." That's in Republic. The entire point of society is to produce good people who do not need laws and rulers. So how do we do that? Cue 2500 years of Western political philosophy.

Yep, he's the daddy.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:12 PM
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15. You just can't go wrong with a woman named Sappo
living on an island named Lesbos....
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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:14 PM
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17. It's rather obvious for me, isn't it?
:D
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:16 PM
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18. Pythagoras and Euclid
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 06:17 PM by Kellanved
A tie. :D
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:19 PM
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19. Danny Zucco?
Oh...sorry wrong Greece!
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:22 PM
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20. A little self promotion here....
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:28 PM
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21. Socrates, because he scored the winning goal
in the football (soccer) match of Greek vs. German philosophers.

Heraclitus got the assist.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:55 PM
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23. The gay one who did all the telling pottery...
:D
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