I have adored Led Zeppelin's music now for 30+ years!!!

[LynneSin]

Got a problem with it - go post here instead.

They are an amazing band who yes, used some previous record music in their earlier works (which was common back then - still is today but now everyone gets credit including those early LZ songs).

Get sick and tired of this anti-LZ crap like somehow we're better if we can take a major band and post nasty about them.

I :loveya: Led Zeppelin so much that I plan on keep my Robert Plant Avatar like that FOREVER

Led Zeppelin has been there for me during the Good Times and even the bad times when I was 14 years old trying to deal with my fathers death.

[rockymountaindem]

1. I've been listening to it all last night and today

I loves me some Zep! I have a friend who doesn't like them, and last night I was trying to explain that she has them all wrong. What songs should she listen to in order to get a better appreciation of Zeppelin? I think pretty much all of Physical Grafitti and II would be a good start.

[LynneSin]

2. All of it except Stairway to Heaven or Rock & Roll

:D

Those 2 just get overplayed too much on the radio!

[taterguy]

38. BBC Sessions

I ignored or hated Zep for about 20 years. A couple years ago I was browsing CDs at the library and picked up their BBC Sessions disc on a whim. It was a revelation, well, parts of it anyway: Immigrant Song, Heartbreaker and the 13 minute version of Whole Lotta Love that contains other blues tunes they ripped off.

[RandomKoolzip]

3. Good drummer, but way overexposed.

Good music should still offer up surprises even thirty years after it came out; the Beatles are like that for me: I still hear new things, new meanings in "Don't Let Me Down" and "I Feel Fine," but it's hard to glean much more goodies out of "Dancing Days" or "D'yer Mak'er" since they're songs that immediately offer up their charms, then sit on your head, forcing love out of you when you don't want to give it.

Plus, you shouldn't take this personally; it's not like we're insulting your family or YOU, just a band you happen to like. If I were to fly into a rage every time someone put down MY favorite band, I'd be spending far more time and money on therapy than my hobbies. And that's sad.

[Zuni]

4. You are lucky you don't take it personally

us die hard fans of the Starland Vocal Band know you can't let the haters get to you

[LynneSin]

6. Hey, I have Afternoon Delight on my MP3 player along with

everything by Led Zeppelin

Coincidence - I think not!

[RandomKoolzip]

8. Keep the fire, Zuni!

http://channel101.com/shows/show.php?show_id=152

[LynneSin]

5. When I was losing my father to cancer the 2 things that got me through it

was Led Zeppelin and the Boston Celtics

So I take it very personable. They became my family when I was losing mine

[RandomKoolzip]

7. I used the Grateful Dead to deal with the loss of my father.

And if I had a nickel for every putdown of the Dead I've heard, I'd, uh, still be in debt.

[LynneSin]

10. Well that's your personal choice

You know, I see the same crap with Green Day. When Dookie came out I can guarentee everyone was on the Green Day bandwagon. Now that Green Day has put out this amazing album that is both Anti-War and Anti-Bush and has happened to sell like 10million copies, suddenly the lounge is filled with Green Day snoots who don't like that *Gasp* the common, everyday folk listen to Green Day.

Start another anti-Led Zeppelin fan and unless it's in some hidden forum I never visit - I'll be there

[Zuni]

14. I have hated Green Day for years

I detest power pop bands

[LynneSin]

15. I actually did too

But got really turned on with American Idiot. Then I started listening to their older stuff and realized how good they really are!

[fudge stripe cookays]

42. I don't really consider them power pop.

I consider them a lame re-hash of old punk that really sucks.

When I think of power pop, I think of folks like Cheap Trick, The Rezillos, Dwight Twilley and Phil Seymour, The Knack, and stuff like that.

They may fit sort of the description, but they have no balls. Yeah, they hate Bush, but their music sucks.

[RandomKoolzip]

18. When I worked at a used record store in 1999....

We were allowed to buy a copy of ANY CD a customer would bring in, EXCEPT "Dookie." I asked why and was shown the special cabinet where they kept their 56 copies of "Dookie" that customers wanted to sell....and when I was asked to buy CDs from customers, I had to turn away five more copies of "Dookie" in a six-month period. So the anti-Geen Day backlash started looong before this new CD.

But that's not the issue; the issue is people confusing their tastes in music with stuff that's actually important. You won't find a person with a wider variety and more obscure taste in music than me, but if people put down the stuff I like, I don't get upset. Taste is subjective.

[Zuni]

11. I am going to take this opportunity

not to comment on the Dead

[RandomKoolzip]

19. See?

I actually wouldn't mind or care if you did; I know you hate them...that's fine.

[Zuni]

9. When my father died

I listened to the Clash and various reggae bands alot. But I am not going to get personal if you say "Give 'em enough Rope" was a shitty album or if you tell me you think Toots and the Maytals suck.

[LynneSin]

12. Like I told Random - that's your choice

:D

[RandomKoolzip]

13. But see, you wouldn't be able to, because

They DON'T suck.

Fucking Toots and the Maytals? I dig you more and more, Zuni. I was just listening to "Pomp and Pride" on my iPod yesterday. Toots Hibbert's one of the greatest singers since, oh, Robert Plant!

[Zuni]

16. I have met him several times

a friend of mine smoked a joint with his son at the 9:30 Club in Washington DC

He used to come around all the time on tour

Toots actually invented the term "Reggae"

[RandomKoolzip]

20. Yup. "Do the ReggaY," 1968.

I'm a big reggae/rocksteady fan....ask Chavez. ME and him used to go on Reggae-buying trips all the time.

[Zuni]

22. I dig that stuff

I rocked out with The Skatalites, Desmond Dekker, Junior Murvin, Lee "Scratch" Perry, Sly and Robbie, Burning Spear, Steel Pulse---I have all kinds of shit lying around somewhere, although a bunch of old vinyl I got in the East Village years ago was destroyed in a fire I had in my apartment a year ago. :cry: Included in the destruction was a 1965 Toots record and Peter Tosh: Equal Rights, which had the all time best reggae jam ever, Downpressor Man, on it.

[RandomKoolzip]

24. Sinead o'Connor just covered "Downpressor Man." I'm not kidding.

It's all over WXRT in Chicago.

Yeah, the reggae I love was all made before 1980...me and Chavez decided that that was the cut-off date. For some reason (cocaine? higher crime? policial collapse?) Jamaica's music scene took a SHARP downward turn that year, except for Black Uhuru and a handful of others.

But I especioally had a soft spot for the reggae made around 1971-74..Clancy Eccles, Sang Hugh, Niney the Observer, Delroy Wilson, etc. There seemed to be more soul in the stuff back then. I also love the late secventies dub and "Toasting" records: Big Youth is one of my all time heroes, but Price Far-I, U-Roy, and Agustus Pablo made some incredible music back then.

Plus, you can't say a bad word about Lee Perry, He'd hex you.

[Zuni]

25. I NEVER liked any dancehall reggae

and I don't like most post 1980 reggae either as well. It is balnd and boring, with little of the innovation or that hard "roots" sound of the 70s product.

I blame the overuse of synthesizers and the influence of American and British '80s music (which made reggae as poor in the 80s as the 50s and 60s blues and soul made early ska and rocksteady good)

[RandomKoolzip]

26. Yup...dancehall was teh suXor.

I bought an Eek-aMouse record once...and only once.

I blame cocaine.

[tigereye]

27. and it was very scary, I have to say

I admire her, but....

and I love reggae, that's why Sinead's new found reggae obsession is so weird....

[Beware the Beast Man]

17. To be a true fan, one must explore both sides of Led Zeppelin.

I love the band, but I cannot deny that they were heavily derivative in their early years and overblown and pretentious in their later years.

As far as classic tracks, I'll pick "Down by the Seaside" over "Stairway" any day. I fucking hate Stairway...

III was a bold departure for them at the peak of their early fame, while Zoso is an overrated piece of garbage.

Page was an awesome guitarist, Bonzo one of the best drummers in rock. JPJ was an incredible multi-instrumentalist as well as a solid bassist. Plant? He was in the right place at the right time. :)

[LynneSin]

21. Zoso has some great stuff on it if you get rid of the mainstream stuff

I love Misty Mountain Hop - makes you just want to get up and dance. Going to California, Battle of Evermore and When the Levee Breaks are all good songs.

But unfortunately I have to sit through Stairway, ROck & Roll and even Black Dog to get to the good songs.

My personal favorite album is II but their masterpiece will always be Physical Graffiti

[brentspeak]

31. I can't see how Led Zeppelin would have been as successful

as they were without Robert Plant. They might not have been successful at all, as a matter of fact. Besides co-writing most of their songs, Plant was a great singer. A great, distinctive singer is probably the hardest thing for a band to find. Plus, he had a great stage presence. Without the right lead man, Led Zep would have remained just a collection of talented session men.

[Dukkha]

23. no other hard rock act can surpass the hammer of the gods!

Zeppelin was unique for their sound being simultaneously thunderously heavy and beautifully melodic at the same time. I'm quite fond of their folk tunes like Going To California, The Rain Song, and Thanks You.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. OK By Me

My favorite two albums were Graffiti and III. Although i think i had everything up to Presence. Never listened to II that much, but the rest i had both LP and tape so i could listen in the car too.

You and me, Lynne. We'll dig 'em together.
The Professor

[LynneSin]

33. I think "In Through the Out Door" was the beginning of the end

I mean, it was their last album because of Bonham's death. But I have a feeling that with ITTOD, Led Zeppelin was crossing over to the point that they would have no longer been that great classic rock band of the 70s and more into "What else can we put on an album so it's mass produced and played on the radio all the time". I mean, ITTOD was the only album that came out when I was actually an official "Led Zep" fan (I was around 13-14 when I crossed over from bubble gum pop music by 70s teenbeat star). I also remember that the roller skating rink where we would go to would play "Fool in the Rain" all the time because it was a modest hit for LZ on the mainstream radio.

Maybe if the suviving members continued to plod on with Zeppelin after Bonham's death they would have been going down a path where I think great bands of their time are at now like the Rolling Stones and The Who. (Don't get me wrong - I love their older stuff but damn, the need to retire!)

[ProfessorGAC]

35. We Agree On Everything But Your Last Sentence

If people still want to pay to see them, i see no reason for them to retire. Nobody told Monk or Miles Davis or Vladimir Horowitz to retire. I don't think we should treat rock music any differently.

Everything else you said, i agree with completely.
The Professor

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

29. Ahhhhhhhh Yes,

The Zep! I can recall when I first heard them and from whom. Well, may be I can't. :)
Was it 1968 or '69? No matter. The thing I like about them is how much each of the first 3 or 4 albums sounded different from each other. They weren't locked into one particular style.
About "Houses of the Holy" time I started to lose a bit of interest. But as far as standing the test of time I think they have.

[brentspeak]

30. At first, the critics hated Led Zep

Led Zeppelin was accused of "mutating" and "insulting" the blues. They were called a band "for stoned 13 year-olds", etc.

Today, those same critics consider Zep to be one of the top five rock bands of all time.

[LynneSin]

34. I never once got stoned to Led Zeppelin music

then again - I've never been stoned in my life

[brentspeak]

36. Me neither

I've always been a "straight-edge" rock 'n roll fan.

[jandrok]

32. I'm with ya LynneSin

The Zep catalog has held up amazingly well over the years. Further proof that blooze-based rock 'n' roll has generational legs. I loved them then, and I love them now.

[LynneSin]

37. You know what I absol-fucking-lutely love!!!

That something the size of a fricking cigerette lighter carries all of my Led Zeppelin music. All this LZ talk has me listening to all of it on shuffle

(BTW, it's my new Sony Netman MP3 player)

[Atlas Mugged]

39. I'm a Stones fan, so I'm used to getting bashed for my love of them

I don't really see too much of Led Zeppelin bashing. I must've missed it. But, I'm very fond of them. I'll never forget the first time I heard their first album. I was in a crash house in the Height with a bunch of hippies who stole everything I owned while I was asleep my first night there. I was 15 at the time. They played music day and night and the first Zep album was on constant replay; I was utterly smitten by them and have loved them ever since. The crash house was a pretty funny experience, in retrospect. One of them claimed to be psychic and predicted a major earthquake on a certain date and time. We all waited to see what happened on the second floor of the house. Meanwhile, at the determined time, some jokesters turned the fridge over on the first floor, scaring the living shit out of us all, but barely harming the fridge.

A year later I was in better shape financially and went to see Led Zeppelin on their first tour. I think it was the Oakland Colosseum; I saw a lot of concerts there and I'm pretty sure that that's where I saw Zep the first time. I'll never forget one minor detail: Jimmy Page wore a brown velvet suit. I have no idea why that impressed me so much, but it did. Wonderful concert and a milestone in my memory bank.

[KitchenWitch]

40. Pure evil - directing folks to the Wyoming forum!

:rofl:

[Stockholm]

41. "Led Zeppelin, one of the great pioneers of rock"

"The 2006 Polar Music Prize is awarded to the British group Led Zeppelin, one of the great pioneers of rock. Their playful and experimental music combined with highly eclectic elements has two essential themes: mysticism and primal energy. These are features that have come to define the genre "hard rock"."

2006 Polar Prizewinners http://www.polarmusicprize.com/newSite/2006.shtml

[datasuspect]

43. good led zep bio

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

[In_The_Wind]

44. So have I !

:hi::loveya:

[mr blur]

45. I saw them twice when Zoso came out,

and at the legendary Earl's Court gig in 1975. Magic.