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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:14 AM
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do you find it annoying when women cry?
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:48 AM
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1. Only when used as a ploy to
win an argument. Like most guys, I can't cry on demand ...
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:11 AM
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6. I don't know many women who can, either.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:12 AM
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8. then the fates must be lined up against me; i've met more than my share
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:13 AM
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9. No dude, you've got it wrong.
They are crying because they are in your presence, not on demand.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:15 AM
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10. nah, they choose to be in my presence, so that means that they are
choosing to cry, and therefore crying on demand :crazy:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:16 AM
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11. Nice logic, but how do you know that
they chose willingly? I mean, dude, c'mon.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:18 AM
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12. it was an obvious leap in logic meant for comedic value only
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 10:18 AM by StopTheMorans
nonetheless, many women cry in order to gain advantage in particular situations, just as many men use other tactics to be manipulative; it's life.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:19 AM
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13. There is no need to insert such a
reasonable response. That hurts.

:cry:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:20 AM
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15. sorry, i let my brain do the thinking, for once
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:19 AM
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22. I try NOT to cry. I've learned that to most people crying = weakness.
Sometimes I just can't help it, though. Because I can't "cry on demand," it makes me less likely to conclude others can, or that they would use it as a weapon against me. :shrug:

I find it strange that a person's first reaction to tears is, "They're using it to manipulate me." Weird.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:21 AM
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23. it's not my first reaction; it's when women whom i work with tell me that
they've cried on driver's licensing tests, when they are about to get a ticket, in job interviews, etc..., and then they say that it helped them to get what they want. sorry if i'm a cynic about these people whom i've met :eyes:
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:18 PM
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42. I've cried during some of those circumstances, not on purpose
I was really upset when I failed my driver's test for the third time and the examiner started really digging into me. I couldn't help it. There is no way that I thought that it would make him change his mind. In fact, he yelled at me and didn't finish his comments.
I never got a ticket, but I don't know if I could handle it if I did. I don't know if I would cry. I'd probably have a panic attack though.
I only cried once during a job interview. It was at a temp agency. I didn't get a job right out of college as planned. My husband was being hard on me about getting a job. I was getting discouraged about my job situation. This evil glamour queen type woman, the type who always made fun of me in school, said that my degree in biology was worthless because it didn't have a direct job associated with it. I also had no chance of getting a job because I didn't have an internship. She, on the otherhand, did the right thing, majoring in human resources and having a good internship. I couldn't help it in that case. I wouldn't have thought that it would help. When I cried when such girls made fun of me, as it seemed like she was doing, they only laughed harder.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:50 PM
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53. I try not to cry, too
I'll do anything not to cry in public, in an office setting, etcetera. At the same time, when I finally fell in love, I discovered that my tears are now much closer to the surface :cry:.

Weird.

Julie
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:50 AM
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2. No--it's my kryptonite.
I simply cannot withstand female tears.

Guess I'm just a softie at heart.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:02 AM
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3. Yes, that's when I start hitting them harder
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 10:02 AM by DS1
:hide:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:11 AM
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7. ...
:spray:

:spank:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:19 AM
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14. Nighttrain, is that you?
:shrug:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:31 AM
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16. ....
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:06 PM
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45. hey, where'd you find that gif?
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:08 PM
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28. !
:rofl:
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:45 PM
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32. I didn't even have to look at your screenname...
...to know it was you!

:evilgrin:

You're so BAD!

:spank:
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:06 AM
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4. Chloroform.
Works every time.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:09 AM
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5. I have so much to learn
:thumbsup:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:20 PM
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38. And here I was thinking that how you got them to date you.
:shrug:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:53 AM
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17. Yeah, especially when I'm having sex with them...
Jeez, am I THAT bad? :(
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:11 AM
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21. I know you're kidding, but I have had this happen and it's NOT fun.
She had (still has) many, MANY issues and will require years of therapy. (And I'm actually being extremely nice saying that.)
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:01 PM
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33. God I can imagine what she's been through...
Been down that road myself...hope she gets lots of help and encouragement...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:23 PM
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39. Me too, but it's out of my hands now.
I'll give her all the support and encouragement I can, but she cheated on me, so you know how that works... Even though I know it's all related to her issues, that just damages the trust a little too much for me to stand by her completely. Plus there's that whole "I absolutely deserve to be treated a hell of a lot better" thing that's hard for anyone with some self-esteem to overcome.

Still, I'll continue to be friends with her and give her everything she needs in that capacity.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:58 AM
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18. I find it alarming when I get home from work, and there is mrs. anarch,
sitting on the couch crying. And after five full minutes of "what's wrong...what is it...what happened?" I finally figure out that she just finished watching, like, "Little House on the Prairie" or something, and there is nothing at all wrong. Jeebus. Scare me half to death, why dontcha. I have never seen anyone cry on account of movies/TV shows as much as she does...but I find it endearing, really, not annoying. It just scares me sometimes.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:59 AM
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19. Crying wimmin make baby Jeebus cry
:cry:
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:09 AM
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20. Had a boss who used to SCREAM and pound the desk
And he got upset when I cried once, saying "women are too emotional".

Whereas screaming = unemotional?????
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:29 AM
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24. boy, that's pretty extreme, P

I don't find it annoying, since everyone cries now and then. I suppose if it's a ploy, but I really don't think most women cry as a ploy. I tend to think of it as genuine and I really don't think it is a weakness.

I mean, now you see more men crying on tv, and such, and they are considered more enlightened if they do....
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:30 AM
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25. Only if it's over nothing or constantly.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:19 PM
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52. That's just menopause.
I've had a few coworkers/friends who did that, and it was almost always that.

Or Prednisone. Yeesh... :hide:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:32 AM
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26. I find it annoying when anyone cries
Especially my cat who is yowling right now for no apparent reason.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:33 AM
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27. When they're honest tears, I have no issue with them at all.
Now...dishonest tears are another story.
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:12 PM
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29. The Beast Man says I have a bad cry face
So I'd guess he'd say it is annoying.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:24 PM
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30. Yes.
The ones who do it publicly and create giant scenes so all their friends will see how upset they are and side with them/give them 'hugz'/support them about the stupidest, most juvenile crap. Ladies, if you are SO upset that your boyfriend just possibly smiled in the direction of another girl, go home. Please. & pick up some perspective on the way.

So maybe not in general :P
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:38 PM
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31. No. crying should be a way to express feelings against their oppression!
Women should:

Be treated like the majority:

Run the Government

Own the Industries

I would cry too if I had any tears left over...
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:12 PM
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37. Wha?
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:08 PM
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46. ?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:01 PM
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34. Again...depends....
Is she crying at the drop of a hat, or is she crying because she is genuinely hurt?
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imperialismispasse Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:02 PM
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35. Annoying isnt the word I would use
more like it makes me want to fix whatever it is thats making them cry because I dont want it to continue.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:11 PM
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36. Ohhh...my husband yelled at me once when I was crying,
and I went from teary to riphisfuckinheadoff in about three-tenths of a second. I'm not much of a sobber, so I expect some consideration when I get that upset- regardless of the cause. I only find it annoying in people who "use" their tears, or cry incessantly about everything.
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TheProphetess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:24 PM
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40. Not particularly
But I had a student telling me that her father said she is not allowed to cry. She said that sometimes when she's very angry, she starts to cry and then he won't listen to her anymore. I saw a bumper sticker that said "speak your mind even if your voice shakes" so that sums it up for me.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:29 PM
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41. It's often not manipulation
If a woman has been brought up not to express anger but has been allowed to express fear or sadness, it may be impossible for her to express anger openly, but the emotion overflows into tears involuntarily.

It's the mirror image of the man who can't express sorrow or fear and so gets angry when he's sad or frightened.
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shockra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:04 AM
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55. Excellent point!
Thanks for that.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:00 PM
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43. No. In fact, I can't get aroused unless she's crying.
:shrug:

Is that weird?
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:46 PM
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50. KoolZip - 1
Aly - :rofl:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:04 PM
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44. Cruel to be kind..
.. in the right measure, cruel to be kind - its a very good sign :)
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:38 PM
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47. Not at all. In fact...
The last time my girlfriend kept crying about some inscrutable non-thing I went and got her a glass of water so she wouldn't "get all dried out"
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:40 PM
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48. Only if I have to stay in the same room.
I don't cry in front of others, I would appreciate the same in return.
Thank you.

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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:40 PM
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49. I find most everything about them annoying....
yet I still love 'em.

I got issues.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:57 PM
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51. Crying is offensive and inappropriate!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:55 PM
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54. Only when it is the fake, attention-seeking or 'means to an end' type
If they are crying because they are genuinely hurting how could I be annoyed?
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