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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:55 AM
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George Carlin on Hurricane Katrina? (e-mail going around)
Been sitting here with my ass in a wad, wanting to speak out about the
bullshit going on in New Orleans. For the people of New Orleans... First we
would like to say, Sorry for your loss. With that said, Let's go through a
few hurricane rules: (Unlike an earthquake, we know it's coming)

#1. A mandatory evacuation means just that...Get the hell out.
Don't blame the Government after they tell you to go. If they hadn't said
anything, I can see the argument. They said get out... if you didn't, it's
your fault, not theirs. (We don't want to hear it, even if you don't have a car, you
can get out.)

#2. If there is an emergency, stock up on water and non-perishables. If you
didn't do this, it's not the Government's fault you're starving.

#2a. If you run out of food and water, find a store that has some.
(Remember, shoes, TV's, DVD's and CD's are not edible. Leave them alone.)

#2b. If the local store has been looted of food or water, leave your
neighbor's TV and stereo alone (See #2a) They worked hard to get their
stuff. Just because they were smart enough to leave during a mandatory
evacuation, doesn't give you the right to take their stuff..it's theirs, not
yours.

#3. If someone comes in to help you, don't shoot at them and then complain
no one is helping you. I'm not getting shot to help save some dumbass who
didn't leave when told to do so.

#4. If you are in your house that is completely under water, your belongings
are probably too far gone for anyone to want them. If someone does want
them, let them have them and hopefully they'll die in the filth. Just
leave! (It's New Orleans, find a voodoo warrior and put a curse on them)

#5. My tax money should not pay to rebuild a 2 million dollar house, a
sports stadium or a floating casino. Also, my tax money shouldn't go to
rebuild a city that is under sea level. You wouldn't build your house on
quicksand would you? You want to live below sea-level, do your country
some good and join the Navy.

#6. Regardless of what the Poverty Pimps Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton want
you to believe, The US Government didn't create the Hurricane as a way to
eradicate the black people of New Orleans; (Neither did Russia as a way to
destroy America). The US Government didn't cause global warming that
caused the hurricane (We've been coming out of an ice age for over a million
years).

#7. The government isn't responsible for giving you anything. This is the
land of the free and the home of the brave, but you gotta work for what you
want. McDonalds and Wal-Mart are always hiring, get a damn job and stop
spooning off the people who are actually working for a living. President
Kennedy said it best..."Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what
you can do for your country."

Thank you for allowing me to rant.



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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:56 AM
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1. snopes says false
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girly Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:57 AM
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2. Snopes
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:58 AM
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3. People assume that you can say anything as long as you credit Carlin
I'd be pretty pissed, if I were him.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:32 AM
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8. I've always thought it was more of a "Ha look at what one of you...
dirty hippies are saying about it" type thing. This is at least the second such type fake email I have seen "quoting" Carlin.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:58 AM
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4. Check out his most recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher
That'll let you know just how accurate that is.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:30 AM
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7. I saw that
Carlin "I don't have a stake in it"=about the looting.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:41 PM
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12. His point was that looting didn't matter to him...
He wasn't going to concemn people for it. And his put most of the blame on the government and the fact that rich white guys generally don't care about poor black people.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:59 AM
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5. Disgusting!
"Poverty Pimps Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton" ????

Of course it's not real. That's the biggest clue right there!!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:00 AM
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6. Carlin's a comedian. The e-mail is about as funny as Carrot Top.
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 10:00 AM by RandomKoolzip
It's not him. Some rightist prick wrote that bullshit.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:36 AM
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9. NO WAY
Carlin on Bill Maher a few weeks ago did not have that tone. He practically blamed EVERYTHING on the government.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:26 PM
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10. Easy to tell it's a fake...


Besides the fact that anyone who knows Carlin knows he would never take these positions.

The punctuation sucks. Carlin would not release something so poorly written for publication.

Carlin uses a lot more profanity. This faker thought he could get by with "ass" and "hell". Hah! Throw in a few "F" bombs and we'll see.

Also, Carlin would never "thank" his audience for "allowing him to rant." He would say something more along the lines of, "You goddamned right I'm pissed, and people are gonna hear about it!"


Wow. Very pathetic attempt to gain celebrity credibility for otherwise indefensible arguments.


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:28 PM
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11. Carlin is funny. That's not.
:shrug:
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:48 PM
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13. Oh yeah, from his website, regarding these types of emails...
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:51 PM
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14. Why is it always George Carlin?
I don't get it. :shrug:
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:04 PM
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15. I received that e-mail from a friend. Here's my response (long)
____, I love you, you know that, but this forward is a bunch of crap--and because I love you, I'm choosing not to delete it, but to explain to you why this is so. First of all, I 100% guarantee you that it isn't actually George Carlin's work; I've seen three or four e-mail forwards *supposedly* written by him, and none of them actually were. Famous people don't generally send convenient e-mails on controversial subjects to the general public, unless they're politicians with a mailing list.

But honestly, the author of this particular forward is the least of its problems. It's based on a lovely little Rush Limbaugh/Horatio Algier fantasy land where if everybody just worked hard and pulled themselves up by their bootstraps everything would be OK...it would be nice if that were true, but it's not reality. You can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps when you have no shoes.

And you can't evacuate if you don't have the resources (which a job at McDonalds or Wal-Mart will not get you, sorry). How the hell are you supposed to get out of a city with 24 hours notice when you have no car, no gas money, and nowhere to go? And even a lot of the ones who DID have the car and the gas money to leave couldn't do it, because in the end the highways were too crowded and it was safer for them to turn around and go home, rather than be exposed on the road when a Cat 5 hurricane hit.

What do you tell all the elderly and sick people in hospitals and nursing homes who were just abandoned? I'd like the author of this e-mail to go to all those exhausted, shell-shocked doctors and nurses who were THERE for a week trying to save people, watching them die instead (people WHO DIDN'T HAVE TO DIE, who could have been saved with just a little more effort and a little less cluelessness) that they have no one to blame but themselves, that they just should have gotten off their asses and gotten out.

What about the prison inmates who were left there for three or four days without food or water? I mean, sure, they're in prison to be punished and all, but I didn't think that included being drowned/starved/left to rot in festering pollution...particularly when most of them are probably in there because they got caught with too much weed or something.

And what the hell were all those rumors about people shooting at planes but just that--RUMORS??? There were never any substantiated reports about it, just a few allegations hurled around by newspeople looking for a big story--and even if there were shots fired, it's quite logical to surmise that it was people firing shots into the air to let the helicopters KNOW THEY WERE THERE, seeing as they'd been left there for days and all.

Looting? Who are the real looters here? Did you know that there were people that came from all across the country, people with boats and cars, doctors, etc...all there to try to get people out of New Orleans, or to deliver food, water, or aid, and FEMA wouldn't let them in. Why not? Because they had contractors to do all those things. After all, why save as many lives as quickly as possible when it might cost somebody a few bucks? I'll never forget the president sitting their in his nice suit explaining to Diane Sawyer that he just couldn't justify looting under any circumstances, even when his own damned incompetent appointees were the ones allowing those very circumstances to continue.

The people of New Orleans did the best they could, for the most part. I happen to know a few of them, and until you've met and talked with somebody who went through Katrina and survived it, you have no room whatsoever to judge them for their choices, period. The bottom line is, the federal government dropped the ball. They didn't know what was going on, didn't try very hard to find out what was going on, and didn't really care who died as a result of their ignorance and complacence. Marty Bahamonde testified this week concerning Michael Brown's conduct in the aftermath of Katrina. If you haven't heard or read about any of the things he had to say, you should. This guy works for FEMA, and he was on the ground, in the Superdome as the events were unfolding. He stressed over and over again to Brown how urgent the situation was, but all good ol' Brownie could think about was making sure he had enough time to eat dinner (restaurants were getting awful busy, ya know).

It's been four years since 9/11, and they've run up a deficit into the trillions of dollars, making their buddies richer in the process, all in the name of "security." Where the hell is our security when our own citizens can go to the Superdome, a DESIGNATED shelter where they were told to go, or to the Convention Center, a DESIGNATED shelter where they were told to go, and be left for a week, many of them to die of dehydration???

But what bothers me the most is the absolute heartlessness that so many people have had to the entire event. How can anyone watch fathers holding their sick and emaciated babies up to the cameras, just begging for some water, and not wonder what the fuck has happened? How can anyone see an old lady curled over dead in a lawn chair, and not feel absolutely despondent that this is our country doing this, that these are our people suffering and dying in squalor. How can anyone watch a ten-year-old child, with eyes like an old man, explaining how his grandmother will die in a few days if she doesn't get insulin, saying how ashamed he is to be an American, and not feel that shame multiplied in his- or herself? How can anyone watch this for three, four, five days, and not be absolutely appalled, outraged, and disgusted by the level of disregard and incompetence on display here?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:17 PM
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16. That is about as un-Carlin like as you can get. Not a chance it's his.
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