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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:21 PM
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Embarrasing topic (hint), what is wrong with me now?!
Okay, I'm gay. I've seen pics of women nekkid. They do nothing for me.

Yet, at work, I struggle to NOT look at the chests of women. :eyes: I'm worried people are noticing because every time I talk to a woman, they re-arrange their blouses or whatever.

The office is comprised of virtually all women.

All of this is embarrassing, especially since I'm supposed to be gay!

I'm doubly embarrassed because this is a form of sexual harassment and I don't enjoy what can only be labelled as a "temptation" as well.

Is it time to see the therapist?

Or am I just going mad?! :scared:
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:23 PM
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1. Just out of curiosity,
when you stare at their chests, what are you thinking about? Milk?
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:26 PM
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3. I'm just looking, no thoughts at all - literally!!
LOL, I still can't help but to laugh at this goofy situation.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:39 PM
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26. honeslty
Just looking at breast never really turned me on either! I gotta see them in action! Don't worry, any woman there is either used to it or excited that their boobs may be turning on a gay man.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:25 PM
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2. Well...
aesthetically speaking, a beautiful set of ta-tas is up there with a Henry Moore sculpture. I don't blame you a bit!
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:28 PM
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7. Except my type of sculpture is something Michelangelo created...
It's obvious my unintentional acts make them nervous. And I don't like making people nervous. It makes me nervous, too - and not in THAT sort of way!!! There is no real sexual attraction worthy of mentioning.
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JustinCredible Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:26 PM
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4. My best friend has the same problem
In fact, he likes to touch mine (poke 'em and whatnot.... it's kinda weird, and not very sexual). Yet it doesn't excite him. I think it's more of a curiousity factor.

I don't think you're weird for it, but for the sake of working relationships... gay or not it can make a girl uncomfortable....


You might want to try to tone it down. :)
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:29 PM
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8. That's the problem, I'm not intentionally doing this,
nor do I want to. Being gay, this shouldn't be an issue at all!

I will try things like looking in other directions or darting my eyes all around. I'm a natural ditz so I can probably get away with looking in other directions.

Nor do I want to make them uncomfortable.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:27 PM
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5. Maybe it's some sex-linked character that just comes with
the Y-chromosome. Some hard-wired genetic thingy. Don't know.

Worst case, you could always go Hollywood - try dark sunglasses. Perhaps the breast-ogle mania that currently pervades your every day will soon pass. I doubt that it has any deeper meaning but, I guess, who knows - if it does, you'll reveal it to yourself in due course, so don't fret about it in the meantime.

Mine hasn't subsided, but that's a different story, and perhaps it's because I'm used to the urge such that I can even control myself and not give in to obvious lechery.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:27 PM
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6. It's like telling someone to sit
in the corner and NOT to think of elephants.

Because you're conscious of it...you do no matter how hard you try.

So look already...everyone else does.

You're overly conscious of being gay AND PC.

Relax.
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:36 PM
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11. Thanks!
I'll do my best to relax, the stress aspect probably doesn't help either...

Some of them probably know I'm gay (I highlight my hair at times, say "oh animal crackers" or "oh crumbs" instead of swearing, and wear a pinky ring. I also don't dress like a typical male. A few of them have seen my car that has that dead-giveaway of the rainbow... I'd rather have the gay commentary floating around rather than "he looks at all our racks" commentary, mostly because I am gay and I'm not looking at them as if they were "potential conquests" or anything as juvenile...)

Also, the person who I replaced was a true pig. He got fired for having lots of porn on his PC. So the situation I am is rather unique but disconcerting at the same time! Now I'm not against porn, indeed I actually have some on my computer at home (men only, naturally), but never EVER at work!!!

So much for being a closet PC case! :-)
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:33 PM
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9. You are human
Women and men stare at my breast all the time. My own daughter stares at them. Yesterday I threatened to rub her face in them if she didn't stop looking. For some reason people like to look at breast especially if they are big.
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:34 PM
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10. Maybe this will help...................
I design haute couture for fashion dolls (larger than Barbie) and sell all over the world for about 8 years now (been published in magazines and books, etc., so yes, this is a nice career).

Okay, the folks who really buy a lot of the couture I design are men. They pay really big dollars too. For instance, in the past 8 years, I have noticed that the male collectors (aged between 25-60) will pay about $300US plus for a doll gown. They commission the most exquisite gowns and accessories from me based on either exactly what they have seen in a movie or on a female relative - whatever - they just totally dig the glamour of it all. They more "haute" the better. One of a kinds made from gorgeous silks and all the features of a real Dior or Balenciaga but in doll scale 5:1

These collectors really love a curve hugging, figure clinging look - very glam.

I think they live vicariously through their dolls. I know I do. I love these glamorous 16-20" mannequins and lavish gorgeous jewelry and accessories on them also. Gowns and jewelry that I could not wear day to day.

So, you see, you are not alone in admiring the female figure. These collectors admire it so much that they have it in miniature form, spend tons of money on this admiration and enjoy the glamour of it all - glamour from a bygone era of say the 30's or 40's, but still that epitome of femininity. You are welcome to e-mail me. I can show you my couture photos and you can see for yourself.

My point is that my longest and most ardent collectors of my fashion doll couture are men. And they love the glamour. Just think of all those old movies - the gorgeous gowns, long evening gloves, the hairstyles and the jewelry.......draped on this female form. I think you understand this.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:41 PM
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15. Pics! We want pics!
Show us the pretty doll dresses, pretty please!!!

(I used to sew heirloom quality kids' clothing.)
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:46 PM
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17. Okay, here is a link to my gallery of couture from the past 7 years plus..
a couple of pics for fun:
<img src="">
<img src="">

Just in case the html doesn't work, links to cut and paste:

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:55 PM
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19. ewwwwwwwwwwwww, awwwwwwwwwwwwwww, ooooooooooooh!!!!!!!!!
Those are so gorgeous!!!!! If I knew how to paste gifs I'd put the little guy that's bowing in homage! :)
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:00 PM
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21. Thanks Lars39!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fun!!!!!!!!
.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:37 PM
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12. Lock yourself in your home and OD on Russ Meyer films
Ok, not real helpful advice but I do I feel for you TD-

Hang in there-

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:38 PM
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13. It's the infant in you coming out
Are you often hungry at work? Might explain things.

Breasts are eye-catching no matter your orientation.
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:38 PM
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14. Breasts are fun
to look at. They just are.

I think the thing to remember is that in order to have working relationships with people, one needs to be able to communicate with the other, and in order to communicate effectively the other, one needs to look the other in the eyes. Or at least not in the chest.

So consider the breasts of those you work with off-limits, and the breasts of unknown strangers on the street fair game. :)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:46 PM
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16. Instead of trying to look the lady in the eyes, look at her left eyebrow,
or just one eye; I've heard it's impossible to sustain contact with both eyes for any length of time.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:49 PM
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18. HONEY. oh HONEY.... I used to work for a VERY well known Gay friendly
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 06:52 PM by radwriter0555
city... I have quite large and astoundingly gorgeous tits. 36DD. Perfectly shaped, lovely lovely.. not to brag, but to make a point. I tend to keep them quite covered up, because I honestly don't like uninvited male hetero attention.. it's too lewd and demeaning.

ALL the gay guys were FASCINATED. On occasion I accomodated... how shall I put this... among my closer friends, they could cop a feel now and then. It's hard to explain. They truly are magnificent, and the boys there just loved them.

I would flash a couple of established regular friends on any given day, much to their extreme delight. I made them pay me a buck a boob as a joke, all in good fun.

I think the appreciation was also for the fine lingerie accompanying said breastesses.....

So in other words, You're NORMAL!

:)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:01 PM
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28. Those gay guys have all the fun
Hmm. I'm beginning to forumlate a new strategy here. Of course, it's becoming abundantly apparent that I'd first have to develop a sense of sartorial style....
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:57 PM
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20. Mother issues? Not Breast-fed as a child?
Or maybe you're just nervous/shy to talk to people directly in the eyes. Even I had to work on that one and I'm a straight female (breasts don't do a thing for me)
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:02 PM
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22. Perhaps, you just want to see if a woman'll do for you
but you're not really aware of it, its more in your subconcious.

I dunno. I suck at playing therapist.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:09 PM
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23. Let me ask something........
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 07:10 PM by DagmarK
This is so odd........

But I am a busty girl......and the only men who talk to my breasts are men who don't take me seriously and don't have respect for me. I don't make that conclusion because of the way they stare at my breasts, but because of the way they treat me in general.

I am not saying you may lack respect for women in general. But is there a chance that you feel really alienated from them? Do you have female friends ......and I mean MORE THAN 1 or 2.....but literally have good friends who are female?

Cause maybe they are just like aliens to you.......

Have you ever thought that if you got to know those women, you would view them (literally) in the same way you view men? Maybe they just seem kind of unreal to you......or just that you are totally intellectually and emotionally removed from them. As in, the problem is not with the breasts, it's with the whole rest of the woman that you can't connect to.

My cure for this: GET SOME girlfriends!
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:36 PM
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24. Interesting
I have no female friends (well, there are two female co-workers who I converse with on a regular basis), and only one male friend. I really don't relate to people well at all despite being empathic for them. But you're right, in a way they are 'alien' to me.

And it's not like I'm looking at the cleavage, rather just a bit above it and struggling to maintain eye contact.

I will say that, all in all, I find it easier to talk to and relate with women than I do men. I do respect women and I certainly don't mean to disrespect them. I even hang with the female relatives more than I do with the men at family gatherings (which is a typical gay stereotype...)

Even in a recent interview, it's been said I'm liked in the office because I treat all the users with respect and don't talk down to them (I'm the PC tech and most of them aren't comfortable with computers unless they have to use them) I think that's my saving grace, I think they know I don't mean to glance or look (not really stare as such). It's a respect I don't want to lose and I do like to think I respect them as people and for what they do.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:38 PM
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25. I am a straight female, and I find myself doing it sometimes...
but when I do it, usually I am mentally pondering, "Those CAN'T be real!"

LOL!
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:45 PM
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27. The human form is a wonderous creation...
You're not "mad". YOU...have a poets heart ~
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