So my 13yo was assaulted at school.

[Midlodemocrat]

Picked up while sitting in his chair and thrown to the ground. Head slammed against the floor, linoleum over concrete. Huge goose egg on the back of his head.

My husband just took him to the doctor. He seems okay, but you never know.

I just got off the phone with the school resource officer, (read, cop), who is going to arrest/charge the kid.

Apparently, he admitted doing it.

So, now what? Should I push to have the kid expelled? If you are arrested at school for assaulting another student during school, shouldn't you be expelled? I sure as hell think so.

And here I thought it would be a quiet week.

[terrya]

1. Oh, my God....

That's horrible, Midlo.

I would definitely push to have that kid expelled. What happened to your child is out and out assault. That's an automatic expulsion.

I do hope your son is ok. Please, please keep us informed.

:hug:

Terry

[Midlodemocrat]

13. Thanks, Terry. And, here it is only the first week of October.

8 months to go :eyes:

:hug:

[matcom]

2. wow

you ARE having a week! :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

9. No shit. I feel like going back to bed for the rest of the week.

[StopTheMorans]

3. i'm so sorry to hear that; that is really f*cked up

i really think you should push for expulsion. this doesn't sound like an altercation or something that got out of hand; it sounds like it took real thought on the child's part who did it. hope it all works out ok :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

6. There was no altercation.

My son asked him 'how did your game go'? and the kid apparently freaked.

This kid is twice the size of my child, and is a bully. I would kill him myself, but I don't want to go to jail.

[youthere]

4. I would push to have the kid expelled.

I hope your son is okay.

[Midlodemocrat]

15. Thank you. And, I am going to.

I think if this kid is that out of control, he will end up killing somebody.

[kick-ass-bob]

5. Wouldn't that be a felony?

If it is, I don't think there could be anything that should stop that kid from being expelled.

[Midlodemocrat]

8. Hope so.

The resource officer is a friend of ours, thank God. When I called to talk to the resource officer, not knowing that our friend had been transferred to my son's school, it was his suggestion to arrest/charge the kid.

I can't see any reason at all not to expel the little fucker, but hey, that's just me.

[Tallison]

11. "Felony" only applies to adult offenders

Don't think there's any such classification for juveniles.

[kick-ass-bob]

14. but there are still levels of crime.

stealing a candy bar vs shooting someone, for instance.

[Tallison]

7. Definitely sounds like some remedial structure

would benefit the offending child and provide extra supervision to prevent this from happening again. So sorry. Hope everyone turns out okay.

[Midlodemocrat]

10. Like chaining him to the wall? Because that is about as

compassionate as I am feeling right now.

Thanks.

[Tallison]

20. Expulsion would provide him the structure

to which I alluded in an alternative setting. Unprovoked violence like that will keep surfacing and claiming more victims unless the kid gets intensive intervention, like, yesterday in an environment (think psych hospital) much different from that of a school.

I can't begin to imagine what it's like to see your child hurt, not having any myself. :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

33. Oh, believe me, I know. Pre-kids, I was a therapist in CT.

Saw and treated lots of kids like this one...ones with all kinds of rage disorders, etc. To be fair, a lot of them were definitely sad sacks, bad families, abuse, drugs and alcohol, you get the idea.

I have no idea about this child. This is a pretty lily white middle class area, so my gut tells me that he is just your average middle class pain in the ass, but I don't know, not having ever treated him.


It is interesting how much more emotional the circumstance becomes when it is your child. Some of the stuff I saw when I was practicing would blow you away, but it was just 'business as usual' at the time. When it is your own child, it takes on a whole different meaning.

[RagingInMiami]

12. Pushed to have the bully expelled and criminally charged

Before he kills someone.

[Midlodemocrat]

16. That is how I feel. I think he WILL kill somebody someday.

And, I don't want him around my child for the whole year, because my child is afraid of this kid.

[The empressof all]

22. Contact the police independently of the school

The school may not encourage you to press charges or contact police and may wish to handle this independently (quietly) by suspending or expelling him.

You can force this child into treatment if you press charges.

[Midlodemocrat]

25. I contacted the police via the school resource officer,

who, fortunately, is a family friend. It was his suggestion to arrest/charge... and since the kid admitted it, that is what he is going to do.

Now, of course, the school will not want to press charges because that will affect the overall statistics county-wide.

I call bullshit on that. I have never been *ahem* quiet.

[swimboy]

85. To hell with county school statistics!

I'm glad your son wasn't more seriously injured but he sure could have been. Short of realizing your justifiable fantasies of what you'd like to do to the kid, by all means follow through on getting him out of your son's environment. If this kid doesn't experience real consequences for his actions it will make him more of a monster. I'm sorry.

Peace to you and strength--

[southlandshari]

55. I agree.

Sent you a longer PM on this. Call the police. Local law enforcement have resources to deal with violent youth that schools and school districts do not. And have no bias or need to try to please both sides or concern about hushing things up that would impede objective action on their part. Call them.

[nickgutierrez]

17. Yeah, the kid should be expelled.

That's just wrong. The kid should be expelled, and taught a bit of a lesson on the downside of being a thug - via juvenile hall, IMO.

And a :hug: for you.

[Midlodemocrat]

19. I think he should be drawn and quartered....and I will be happy

to provide the horses.

:grr:


Thank you for the hug.

[tjwmason]

18. Best wishes for your son's recovery.

and :hug: for you.

Yes, the offender does deserve to be expelled. He is currently a threat to your son, and to other pupils at the school.

Was there any age-difference (I ask because over here 13 year-olds are in schools with 18 year-olds - it could have been very nasty)?

[Midlodemocrat]

23. My son is a little on the young side, May baby, with a cut off

date of September 30th to enter kindergarten. This child, I believe is at least one year older and if he was not promoted one year, he could be as much as two years.

He is most definitely much bigger. My son just contracted Osgood Schlatter's, which is that ligament sensitivity that a kid gets when they are growing really quickly, but it was only one month ago that he was diagnosed, so he hasn't shot up all that much.

This kid is at least 6', maybe as much as 6'2", and probably right around 200 pounds.

[tjwmason]

28. This is WAY beyond teen-age hi-jinks

He does have to have something done to him.

[greatauntoftriplets]

21. That is terrible!!!

Aside from filing charges against the bully, I also think that you should push to get him expelled.

[Midlodemocrat]

26. Thank you. I appreciate your input

GAoT. I wanted to make sure I wasn't overreacting, but boy, when it is your child, it is tough not to.

[anarch]

24. wtf? I'm sorry you and yours are having such a shitty time of it

Hang in there...and yes, the kid should be expelled, IMHO.

[Midlodemocrat]

27. Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.

[Robb]

29. I'm sorry MD

That's awful!

My $0.02: stick with the system. I know I'd wanna go postal on anyone who hurt the kiddo, but it ain't worth it. :grouphug:

[Midlodemocrat]

30. I'm looking into brass knuckles as we speak.

Any suggestions? Thoughts on that?

Thanks for the hug. Here's one for you. :hug:

I plan to follow the advice of my friend who is the resource officer. He is a great guy who won't steer us wrong.

My husband did almost go postal in the school though. Good for them to see that I am the calm one.

[Robb]

41. The GF and I were watching "24" last night ...

She hadn't seen the first season, where the teenager gets kidnapped in the first five minutes.

Anyhow, she'd once just about killed a boy who snuck her daughter out of the house at 2 a.m. She was so mad about the TV show she couldn't settle down for hours!

Screw the woman scorned. Hell hath no fury like pissed-off mom! :)

[underpants]

31. Sorry to hear that

I would think that would get a kid expelled. Maybe an inschool and send him to county high. ????

[Midlodemocrat]

34. Ha. Now I bet you are GLAD you didn't move here.

:eyes:

[khashka]

32. Damn good for you!

I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to your kid....It's terrible. And it's not just the physical wounds, either.

Some similar (though not so violent) things happened to me in school. I went to my parents and they told me "Not our problem. You'll have to deal with it." I've never forgiven them for that.

I am so proud of you for taking action and so thankful there are still parents who don't let this sort of thing just slide and say "kids will be kids".

So while I feel horrible for your son.... I also feel glad he's got a mother like you.

Khash.

[Midlodemocrat]

36. Thank you. But, I only wish that he had told us that this kid was

bullying him sooner. My husband says it is embarrassing to be bullied, having been bullied before he grew as a teen, so I guess that is it.

[Debbi801]

35. OMGosh, I am so sorry. I'm glad your son will be ok, at least ...

physically. That had to be so frightening. I think the kid should be expelled, but who knows what will happen with schools the way they are today.

Debbi

[Midlodemocrat]

40. The more I read the responses to this thread, the more I agree

with getting him expelled. Now that I have calmed down a little bit, I want that kid out of the building before he hurts anyone....not just my kid.

Bullies suck.

[DS1]

37. Wow, how things have changed

When I was in school the most this kid would be looking at is a week of in school suspension - but now everyone's calling for arrest and expulsion. Maybe we were just expected to - and did - defend ourselves.

How things have changed.

[Midlodemocrat]

44. Yes, things have changed.

and this kid is twice the size of my son. And, my son is a red belt in TaeKwonDo. Not a wimp under any circumstances.

This kid could have killed him. He slammed him down on the floor and slammed his head on the floor.

I don't recall that kind of behavior at all when I was in school, nor when I was teaching school.

The violence level has escalated horrifically. Last year, a kid came to my daughter's school with a loaded 9mm. Pulled it on another kid and some of the bigger guys jumped him. Locked down the building while they were trying to find both the almost shooter and the gun.

Things have changed. A lot.

[kick-ass-bob]

45. It wasn't exactly a normal fight in the hall.

It was a one sided attack, which is much different. I was on the receiving end of such an attack in high school (grabbed & pulled down from behind while sitting outside at lunch while another ran down the hill and started punching) and I can tell you it was much different than any other "fights" I was in.

That was >15 years ago - and I pressed charges.

[Midlodemocrat]

48. Yes, it most definitely was.

And, coupled with the size difference, the fact that he was able to slam him down that hard is a little frightening.

[Kailassa]

64. yep, there had to be a "blame the victim" reply

That is so put-downing to any person who cannot defend themselves against a surprise attack from somebody twice their size.

This kid was picked up and thrown to the ground, what do you really expect him to be able to do about that?

I presume you do not think it's a baby's fault if it gets picked up an throw to the ground, so you must draw the line somewhere inbetween. at what age should the child be able to defend itself from that? 2? 4? 6? 12?

There will always be bullies, and the people bullied will mostly get over the physical bullying faster than they will get over the self-righteous implications that it was there own fault for not stopping it.

[DS1]

73. yep, there had to be a completely inaccurate reply to my reply

and there it is.

Try again. I said nothing of the sort.

[kick-ass-bob]

82. Well, I didn't think you said anything of the sort either.

I was pointing out that things may not have changed quite as much as you may have thought. (or maybe it was a longer time than 15 years)

[DS1]

83. I graduated HS in 1991

and like I said, fights were pretty common, and there was maybe one expulsion a year - and when it happened EVERYONE knew about it. The only one that was for violence was after one girl stabbed another girl in the chest with a pencil.

[kick-ass-bob]

84. that's when I graduated too. We had a guy expelled b/c he passed out KKK

literature. :eyes:

We had several others kicked out for really big fights (our principal didn't take any shit - he had the "angry black man" thing down pat.
(KKK guy was kicked out after this principal had retired)
Expulsions went down with the new principal. That was when I was attacked.

[DS1]

86. Shit, my friend and I were busted fighting

I mean, wrestling on the ground fighting and gouging of whatever we could directly in front of the main office over the satanic bible once, just because we couldn't agree who got to read it first :D

No suspensions, no expulsions, just a "Hey you two, KNOCK IT OFF!"

[kick-ass-bob]

87. maybe we had higher racial tensions at our school?

:shrug:

I dunno, but come springtime, they brought the cops into the schools - before they had the "School Resource Officers" - just to keep the peace.

We had a lot of people just suspended, too (or ISS), we just had several people expelled as well.

[Tsiyu]

111. Piss off

My saying of the day for you, too, DS1


PISS OFF!!!!!!!!

[philosophie_en_rose]

38. PROTECTION ORDER.

I'm not a lawyer, but I think that you might want to look into getting a protection order that keeps that kid from your son in the future. That way, the school is legally obligated to make adjustments.

Whether or not they expel the kid, your child should never be exposed to that kid again.

[Midlodemocrat]

42. Can't get one. Notoriously hard to get, at least according to

our friend. Almost impossible to get against a child.

[July]

61. If you can't get a protection order, and the kid lives in your district,

can you get the police to put the fear of God in both the kid and his parents? He sounds like he has no control of himself, and your kid won't want to see him again.

[philosophie_en_rose]

88. Call a free attorney service...

If you have a police report, you might still be able to try. They don't usually cost anything either.

Maybe the school is willing to work something out first...

[jane_pippin]

39. Oh my god, I hope he's okay.

I hope the kid that did it gets in trouble, and I hope the year gets better for your kid. Being a teenager is so tough. I'm sorry. :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

78. Thank you.

:hug:

[LynneSin]

43. What they need is anger management classes for these bullies

and Child Services checking the homelife to ensure everything is ok there.

Kids don't act like bullies just for the hell of it. I had a Bully in school and found out years later from a friend that my bully was abused by his father. I also think poor diet filled with processed foods adds to many kids behaviors.

Kid needs to be required to see a psychologist for several visits to get an idea of what made this kid rage like he did. Continued observations when he returns to school plus a few home visits with the family might help this kid.

But most importantly I hope your son is ok. Too long our school systems have ignored bullies and I'm sure this bully has done things in the past to show that there could be a problem

:hugs:

[Midlodemocrat]

47. Thank you, LynneSin

And I agree with you about the whole bullying thing. I know from when I was a practitioner that kids don't bully for the hell of it.

When my eldest was in 5th grade, she was very upset because a bully was torturing a child who was a Sikh, and therefore had very long hair, and wore a turban.

That child ended up committing suicide. The bully, not the victim. Makes you really wonder what he was going through to be that cruel and then take his own life. Tragic on every single level.

:hug:

[LynneSin]

52. The crazy thing is, many times the bullies are the 'popular' kids

I was fortuante because my problem was when I was really young and as I grew older I learned how to fly under the radar.

But the kids that were abusive to other kids many times were the jocks and other popular kids who felt their status gave them reason to be abusive (whether physical or verbal) to others. And I watched as teachers let it happen because maybe Ricky or Johnny Bully is a member of the team they coach and didn't want to cause any problems with the sports program.

What I would push for is getting your whole school involved with dealing with Bullies. I'd take this to the PTA. If I harassed at work there are laws protecting me and if I was harassed by my spouse/S.0. there would be laws protecting me. But if I was a kid being harassed in school there isn't much out there to protect me (but it's getting better).

[Midlodemocrat]

59. You are exactly right. And a lot of times turning the tables on the

bullies works.

When my eldest was in 6th grade, she had this kid who used to call her "teeny tiny t***", because she hadn't fully developed, and it mortified her.

I told her to call him pencil d***. She said "he'll just say How do YOU know?"

I told her to tell him that she read it on the girls' bathroom wall.



He never called her that again.

[LynneSin]

62. My god it's so funny to read that because I had the same problem

I shot up 6 inches the summer all the girls got their bosoms. Add to the fact that I was so fricking fair-skinned made me an easy target. (My redneck school had no minorities so they found kids that didn't quite fit in and went after them)

[HughBeaumont]

57. Actually, some kids DO bully for the hell of it.

You'd be surprised how many assholes come from non-abusive homes. Sometimes, it's that the parents don't teach them right from wrong, or it's the crowd they hang around with. Much of my bullying came from verbal abuse, not physical. It never got to that point, but that hits just as hard if not harder.

[Midlodemocrat]

60. You are definitely correct.

An asshole is an asshole is an asshole.

[LynneSin]

71. But you know, I almost guarentee if you were to check out their home life

you'd fine something going on that was contributing to it - probably parents who either neglect their children (even if just from being too busy with work) to parents that have set no boundaries for their kids.

I still firmly believe that nutrition plays a big part in our kids behavior. Too many kids spend the day eating processed junk food and sugary drinks and their bodies can't handle all that junk. I think Morgan Spurlock showed in his movie "Super Size This" of a school in Michigan that was for deliquents where they switched the school lunches to all organic, "home-cooked" food and eliminated all the junk foods. The change, over the school year, cut down on the issues that many of these kids were dealing with.

I've seen the changes not only my nieces & nephews and even myself make when loaded up on junk food.

[Midlodemocrat]

72. Or even simple civility. I have had kids over to my house

to play with my kids and then when asked to stay for dinner, you get "whaddya having"? and when you reply you get "yecch, I hate that".

I wouldn't have dreamed of ever saying anything like and I hope to God none of my children would either.

[Shell Beau]

46. Most importantly your child is fine.

I am not sure about expelling the child. He certainly should be punished severely and at least suspended maybe even sent to an alternative school. I fear his situation with violence may become worse if he is expelled from school. What are his parents saying? Do you know yet? I wonder if he learned this behavior from home. I am sorry for you. Just another thing to worry about. But I am glad your kid is okay! :hug:

I want to clarify what exactly I mean. If the child would continue to be a threat, then he needs to be removed from the school. I still think the child needs some help and still needs to be in school. That is why I think an alternative school may be best. Alternative schools are for children with behavior problems.

[Midlodemocrat]

49. Don't know anything about his home life.

I actually never even heard this child's name until today, and I volunteer quite a bit.

The fact that things could get worse for him potentially does concern me, but the county would provide home tutoring, which would be a slight advantage if there was an issue in the home because the teacher would be a mandatory reporter.

Just have to wait and see.

[Shell Beau]

50. I edited my post for clarification.

But, if he will continue to be a threat, then by all means, he needs to be out of that school. He may need some type of therapy or whatever it takes to help him control his violent tendencies. But again, I am glad your son is fine.

[HughBeaumont]

51. Get that little fuck expelled.

Assault is absolutely punishable by expulsion. By all means do whatever it takes to ruin this kid's life, as he gave no thought to ruining your son's thus far. What he had done to him could have killed him if he got hit in the right place. So fuck that big-ass bastard - get him expelled.

Being bullied myself when I was in school, I have NOT ONE IOTA of tolerance or understanding when it comes to this bullshit. Your child shouldn't have to pay for someone else's Frankenstein. Parents, school administrators and students haven't learned a DAMNED thing since Columbine. AT all.

This is what I'm scared about - there's going to be a time when some little POS is going to do this to my kid, since he's on the tall but skinny side and douchebags target these kids (since someone their size would hit back) . . . I just may do something I'll regret. But that's my kid. And the way I see it - If I don't touch him, no product of shitty parenting is going to.

[Midlodemocrat]

63. Boy, you took the words right out of my mouth.

"No product of shitty parenting"....what a great quote.

None of my children is a bully. Because they were taught that it is unacceptable.

My eldest is probably going to be homecoming princess, very, very popular. Same with the little one. My son has a lot of friends but prefers one or two at a time to the cluster fuck gatherings my daughters adore.

I have heard from all three of them stories about bullies. I have had moms call me asking me if my kids will befriend their kid so the kid won't be bullied.

This fucker attacked my son. He could have killed him if he had hit his head in a different part of the skull. This kid will do some serious damage to another child if left unchecked.

[HughBeaumont]

68. No parent should be "rational" when it comes to this.

Child abusers, child murderers and child rapists are the scum and moving targets of the prison system - the reason being is that many of the prisoners are there as a direct result of being abused, neglected or whatever by people who are supposed to be protecting or caring for them. Or they're fathers themselves.

Society should be no different. You harm someone else's child without provocation or without an ounce of remorse, you pay the price. Somehow, I DON'T see this as a "cry for help" by said bully and he IS going to do this again if left unchecked. Maybe this punk could use the time off to get his ass and his anger in check. A dog with behavioral problems shouldn't be allowed in a house with children. Same goes for non-parented monsters.

[gkhouston]

89. Yes, he will.

And that's exactly what you should say, as often as necessary, to anyone who tries to dissuade you from taking action. The attacker's parents aren't going to be happy about this, and possibly some other parents as well, but you're actually giving the attacker a wake-up call to address serious problem behavior now because the next time something like this happens, the victim could die and a jail sentence will be the result.

[July]

53. Hope your son is feeling better soon.

You have to watch those head injuries, as I'm sure your doctor told you. Poor kid!

Doesn't the school have a policy on something like assault? I would think it would be an automatic expulsion.

Keep us posted, so sorry this happened to your child.

[Shine]

54. OMG, that's TERRIBLE!!

Yes, I would definitely push to have the kid who did it at least suspended for a few days. That school should have ZERO tolerance for that kind of shit! I am so sorry you are having to go through this. How scary for everyone!

My son is almost almost 12 and just started at the local middle school. He's a great kid and gets along well with everybody, but hearing your story brings up all my concerns again about the challenges of raising a son in today's society.

It is sad to me that they have to be so tough in order to be seen as "cool".

Hang in there,
Shine

[JimmyJazz]

56. I have no idea, but I am so sorry to read about this.

I hope your son is okay, both mentally and physically. :(

[Midlodemocrat]

69. Thank you, JJ.

I appreciate that.

[ReadTomPaine]

58. Make an example of that little freak. Push it all the way you can.

Perhaps other children in the school with similar tendencies will think twice, not just regarding your child- but others as well. I would frankly enjoy doing this. I like breaking bullies, it's a hobby of mine.

All the best!

[Midlodemocrat]

65. LOL.

"I like breaking bullies, it's a hobby of mine".


Wouldn't it be wonderful if there were no such things as bullies? If all the kids could just go to school, hang with whom they wanted without fear?


Bet the kid's parents voted for *, too. (As this is mostly 100% rethug, with the possible exception of me, pretty fair guess)

[AirmensMom]

66. That's terrible!

The kid should be expelled before he hurts someone else. We had some experience with bullies when our kids were in school. It stopped FAST in when the middle school got a new principal with a zero tolerance policy for bullying. I don't think it was a coincidence.

Sorry that happened to your son. :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

67. Thank you. The thing is, they say that they do have a zero

tolerance policy, but I haven't seen evidence of it. Almost every child I know who went through/goes to this school has been/ or is a product of bullying at some level.

[AirmensMom]

75. Zero tolerance means you expel their asses for something like this

the FIRST time it happens. If the kid is still in school, they don't have a zero tolerance policy, no matter what they say. The principal I mentioned made it clear from day one that he didn't give any second chances. Everyone knew he meant business. He had a way of getting through to the kids that really worked.

I feel for you. I always hated having to deal with the schools. The happiest day of my life was when my kids graduated from high school. :hug:

[indigo32]

70. Damn!

thats terrible. I hope your son is doing OK. Absolutely push for his expulsion. The advice regarding calling police outside of the school sounds right on the money too.

[wildhorses]

74. I am sorry to hear this

[Graf Orlok]

76. I'd push to get the little fucker expelled.

And then I'd prosecute the kid in the court of law for assault and try to get the maximum punishment allowed.

I hope your son is okay. :(

[CaliforniaPeggy]

77. My dear Midlo......

My heart goes out to you over this horrible incident...

I'm relieved that your son is OK...he will need your help to get over this painful attack....

I do agree with what LynneSin has to say regarding follow-up.....

Please take care, and let us know how things develop.....



:grouphug:

[mvd]

79. Oh my, Midlo - very sorry to hear this

This wasn't just normal bullying, which is bad enough. Your son could have been hurt worse. My thoughts are with your family, and it sounds like an expulsion might be deserved for the kid who did it.

[bearfan454]

80. Hell yes have the kid expelled

Make the parents have to go through some shit.

[cally]

81. I would seek expulsion and a school intervention

for your child. If he ever ends up in a school with that child again then he will need protection.

Years ago I saw two girls push my daughter down and kick her at school. Noone wanted to punish the girls because the Principal saw it as just girl stuff and told me my daughter needed to learn to protect herself. Also, the parents of the one of the girls was head of the PTA and close to the school board members. The girls got some punishment but I let it drop at the insistence of my daughter. This was a big mistake. These girls continued with mean comments for years and made my daughter's school life difficult. Eventually my daughter changed schools. I wish now that I had a police record on those girls and that I had gotten them expelled. It would have changed my daughter's school experience dramatically.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

90. Keep us posted

On what the outcome of this is.

And give your son an extra hug tonight. :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

91. UPDATE

We decided to forgo getting the child arrested. He is serving 10 days suspension and the parents have agreed to put him into anger management counseling.

This kid has some very serious issues, it appears, but the parents were pretty supportive because they told the police officer that they already had a daughter who 'went bad', so they weren't going to let it happen with this one.

So, I guess there is some progress there.

My son is fine. Doc said no concussion, thankfully, just a big ole bruise where the knot was.

And, it's only Tuesday.

[LynneSin]

92. Can you ask that the child be moved into different classes

They should be able to arrange his schedule so that he can take the same classes but in classrooms different from where your son is in.

I know having the child arrested is the first instinct of any parent whose child went through what yours did and the same thought many of us posted here. But I think this is the best decision with the suspension and the child getting professional help. Having him arrested and thrown out of the school only will make the child more of a criminal in the long run. Let's hope that therapy and anger management will help address why this child rage and help him to overcome his anger and lead a healthy and productive life.

10 years from now if that kid graduates college, he'll have you to thank for giving him a second change. But btw, that's it for chances!

[Midlodemocrat]

94. Yes, they are going to move him.

When I talked to the resource officer yesterday, it was his suggestion to have him arrested, and I think now that he had some additional information on this kid and was almost hoping that we would push forward.

I think you are right, though about letting him get help to work through his issues. The officer told the parents that they would have to provide evidence to him weekly that the child was getting therapy, a note from the doctor, I guess, so they can't back out of the agreement. He made it sound like that was the only thing preventing this boy from being arrested and charged.

Hopefully, this is the end to it. I hope this kid learns from this that he can't take his anger out on someone else. And, therapy will probably work miracles towards healing whatever is paining him. If this kid continued on this path, I shudder to think what would happen in the future.

[LynneSin]

96. You gave him a future though

Let's hope that kid and his family takes full advantage of this opportunity!

[LynneSin]

98. DUPE

DUPE

[Missy Vixen]

95. I am so glad that your son is okay

In the meantime, the school should realize that they are very, very, VERY lucky this didn't turn out worse, and take some action to ensure that your son doesn't share a class with this kid till they're both out of school.

I also hope the attacker's anger management classes work.

Thinking of you, :hug:
Julie

[Midlodemocrat]

97. You and me both.

Anger doesn't just happen. Whatever is going on in this kid's life to make him react like that is pretty profound. And, especially that they already had a daughter who 'went bad' (their words), it is pretty scary.

:hug: back at ya!

[HEAVYHEART]

93. Damn

I am so sorry this happened to your son. Definitely get the bully kid expelled. DELETED THE REST. THAT BETTER????? EDIT AGAIN. FORGOT TO ADD THE HUGGIE SMILEYS. :hug:

[flamingyouth]

99. OMG!! I'm glad he doesn't have a concussion

But still... that kid is messed up. I would hope the school would seek to expel him if he ever does anything like this again. I would hope that schools would have a zero-tolerance policy for stuff like this.

I hope he feels better soon, and that you do too. :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

100. That is one of the things that bothers me.

Apparently, they do have a zero-tolerance policy, at least, that is what they claim.

So, why did we have to push to even get the kid suspended? I don't get it.


:hug: back at ya!!!

[miss_kitty]

103. Sometimes, local tv stations are very interested in stories like this

You might let any foot draggers who don't understand THEIR OWN STUPID ASS RULES know you are real close to discussing this with the media.
Also countact the office in the county whose statistic your son's school is trying to maintain and let THEM know that your son's school is cheating by not following their own rules.
I hope you've composed a letter to the school superintendent and the state head of education, along with CCs to the board and the principal.

I'll bet this is not the first time the kid has laid hands on a little guy.

I hope you and your family can get back to normal soon.

[Midlodemocrat]

104. I have composed one, just not sent it.

Because I wrote it in such a state of anger. I am going to send it when I calm down, because I do write better when I am pissed off.

And, the media thing is also something I have toyed around with; just so far this year we have had:

1. One school drop elementary kids off at a bus stop in front of a convicted pedophile's house.

2. One school's teacher arrested for downloading child pornography to his work computer.

3. One elementary school principal who thought the most appropriate way to show her students inappopriate gestures and language would be to flip them off and curse at them.


Un-fuckin-believable.

This would be just one more nail in their already bursting coffin.

[miss_kitty]

110. Dayum!

I don't know-I guess this is why people HOME SCHOOL! I'm sorry, your reply has cracked me up-it's a sad laugh. I really can't believe what some people do these days. You are so right. It IS un-fuckin-believable.

Sounds like a coffin is too small-they need a mausoleum!

[WindRavenX]

101. I am so sorry this happened

I hope your kid is ok, and I hope you're ok as well :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

109. Thank you.

He is okay. Thankfully. I just hope it didn't do any damage to him emotionally. He is not the most talkative kid and would die before admitting something like this shook him up.

He does talk to my husband though, which is a really good thing.

[WilliamPitt]

102. When I was that age

assaults happened all the time with no reprocussions other than a detention. I was on the receiving end of more than a few.

Have the kid tossed if you can do it. Otherwise he'll do it again, and the next kid might wind up with a broken neck.

[Midlodemocrat]

108. When I was in school and even when I was teaching high school

in the 80's, I don't remember this level of violence. As a very young teacher, I broke up more fights than I can count, simply by grabbing the little hairs on the guys' necks and pulling.

I wouldn't ever do that now if I were teaching, simply because some kids are so astonishingly violent. It really makes you wonder what is going on at home.

I am hoping this kid won't do it again. Our friend, the resource officer has vowed to keep an eye on this kid, and I believe him.

[KyndCulture]

113. Mid, wow, what a helluva week you're having!!! *hugs*

first of all so glad your son is ok!

We went thru something very similar when my son was 14, except it happened at a bus stop and the school couldn't intervene..my boy's nose ended up broken. We did have the boy arrested, because the school wouldn't do anything. But he didn't serve any time... a few weeks later It turned out the kid that beat the shit out of my son had been severely abused at home (possibly sexually we never got the whole story). Kinda found out by accident, but it put a whole different light on it for me. The boy ended up getting treatment at the local mental health center, was held back that year and school but I never heard of another incident where he hurt another child.

I wonder if that's the case here, it made my red flags go up when you said the "daughter went bad too" something tells me there is something very wrong in that family. Maybe not having him arrested but forcing them to get him some help was the best thing that could have happened!!!

Hugs and love to you and your family!

[Midlodemocrat]

114. See, I really am a compassionate conservative at heart.

:sarcasm:

I used to be a therapist in a pre-kid life, and when I heard about the daughter via my daughter, alarm bells went off big time. If the kid is this violent at 13, what is he going to be like at 23? What is going on in that home to create such an angry environment?

Being the elitist liberal that I am, I do think this is the best solution. Expelling him will only mean that he would be subject to home visits by a teacher for four hours a day, and with both parents working, what happens then? He goes out in the backyard and tortures small animals? Shudder.

I am still working through my rage about this, though. I don't hit my children, neither does my husband, and the fact that someone else laid their hands on him in anger makes me furious.

It is really a good thing that my husband went this morning, because he is a lot calmer than I am about this kind of stuff. I get enraged hearing about anyone's child being mistreated, not just my own.

Hugs and love back at ya!!!

[henslee]

105. DELETED.

[Tsiyu]

106. He needs a CAT scan

Make the school pay.

Seriously, a concussion or head injury is nothing to play with.

I'm glad the kid is going to be charged. Sorry your kid has to put up with that crap. :hug:

[bigwillq]

107. Have the kid expelled.

Get the bully out of the school so he can't hurt any more kids.

Sorry this happened to your son. Hope he's feeling better.:hug:

[LaraMN]

112. O.M.G.

Unfreakingbelievable. As a parent, I can't imagine how angry you must be. I hope the offender gets some serious help.