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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:13 PM
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Did Paul McCartney die in 1966?
This is really bizarre, check out this web site I found. It shows comparison photos of McCartney taken in 1966 and afterwards. I have to admit, it almost looks like a double was brought in! File this one in the very weird category.

http://www.anycities.com/user/uberkinder/index.html
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:14 PM
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1. heck no
bah!
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:16 PM
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2. no way
yea I've heard all the "paul is dead" stuff, but this couldn't possibly happen. I mean they were the greatest band EVER, and too many people would've been in on this.

and they didn't have that kind of surgery in 1966, you couldn't morph somebody into an almost identical twin of Paul McCartney.

the Kurt Cobain murder I believe, but this is too far fetched even for me : )
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:17 PM
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3. If you take the Abbey Road cover as evidence of his death
Then yes. Combine this with several clues on the Magical Mystery tour and the White Album and you have a compelling conspiracy. However is this really news? I mean come on 30+ years!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:17 PM
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4. LOL
I thought Paul was the walrus or what that John
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:19 PM
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5. Number 9, Number 9, Number 9
I....buried........Paul..

And the "new" Paul could sing, play left handed guitar, and write songs. Never as great without John, but still remarkable.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:31 PM
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6. this went around years ago....it was a clever hoax
sure, listen carefully at the end "Strawberry Fields Forever:" and just as the music fades you can hear the voice of John Lennon saying "I buried Paul."
right?
well, listen closely, and John may be saying:
"I'm very bored."
wannabe believers insisted the former was true.
look on some of the urban legend sites.....i think a writer for a college paper started the whole thing and the Beatles ran with it.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:33 PM
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7. But you haven't explained the visual clues on Abbey Road
Paul was literally dressed for a funeral
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:34 PM
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8. and don't forget
28IF
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 12:48 AM
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24. I saw Dennis Rodman dressed like a bride but
I still don't plan to jump into bed with him.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:35 PM
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9. no, he says "cranberry sauce"
Really, that's what John says at the end of Strawberry Fields. You know, those Beatles did a lot of drugs...
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:42 PM
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10. "Turn me on, dead man"
If you play Number 9 backwards, it says, "turn me on, dead man." If that isn't proof that McCartney died, then I don't know what is.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 04:55 PM
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11. If he did die in '66
his 'double' put on a damn fine show with his band Wings in the Seattle Kingdome in March 1990. We were 17 rows back from the stage. That place and "Paul" were rockin'!!!!

Jax
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:12 PM
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12. nope
paul is alive and well. the "paul is dead" conspiracy was pure bullshit. why would they leave "clues" if they didn't want people to find out?

sadly, though, john and my favorite beatle, george, are dead.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:32 PM
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13. considering the music he did after that, and before that,
I'd say, yeah, he could have died and been replaced. I mean, cripes - talk about losing your musical way.

Flame if you want, but I can take it: post-Beatles, McCartney really went downhill. "Band on the Run?" Please.
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ChillEB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:49 PM
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16. I love that song...
I thought the real early Wings (like that song) were not that bad, personally. And "Maybe I'm Amazed" is one of the best tunes in his career, IMHO...
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 10:45 PM
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21. Almost forgot!
Yes, Maybe I'm Amazed :-)
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 10:44 PM
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20. I don't know
I've always liked McCartney's music, so I don't think it was all crap.

So Bad

Wanderlust

Pipes of Peace

Ninneteen-Hundred Eighty Five

Junior's Farm

His best work was RAM, IMO
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EAMcClure Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:33 PM
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14. Dangit
I just broke up with my girlfriend of three years... she kept Rubber Soul and I kept Revolver. Now I want to trade them back!

I WANT THE REAL PAUL!

Waaaaaaah
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:38 PM
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15. MY conspiracy theory regarding the Beatles & Bob Dylan...
OK, so the original Bob Dylan actually died in that motorcycle accident back in 1966, but he was such a hot property at the time that the record company decided to keep his death a secret and find a replacement. They tried and tried to find someone who sounded like him and couldn't so they finaly settled for this Zimmerman guy who at least looked like him.

But he was no songwriter, so they hired Paul McCarthy to write his new material, throwing enough money at him to make it worth his while, but diverting his creative output away from the Beatles, which eventually led to their breakup.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:51 PM
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17. .daed si luaP !esruoc fO
"Here's another clue for you all/the walrus was Paul"
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 05:53 PM
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18. No. He Just Smells That Way
:-)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 10:06 PM
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19. The whole thing is great fun
but it's bogus.

Still, I don't believe the Beatles' claim that they never fueled the flames by at least planting additional clues. There's just too much coincidence there.
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Ein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 10:48 PM
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22. He makes a good case.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-03 10:48 PM by Ein
He speaks to the skeptics, and he uses that little head check thing well enough. The sound files for the most part just make him seem nutty, he's really is reaching to hear something in most of those clips.

I wouldn't doubt it, but then again I don't doubt the Illuminati is trying to take over the world :tinfoilhat:
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 10:53 PM
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23. yes
he was actually yoko (still is)

a stunt double was brought in for Paul, and he was able to carry on in a slightly less McCatneyesque manner (however, the fake Paul was under the influence of Yoko Paul until the breakup)

Yoko actually broke up the Beatles, which is why they say it was Paul! They're both half-right.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 12:56 AM
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25. Bing Bing Bing! We have a winner!
I can't wait to hear your resolution to the questions surrounding the Grassy Knoll and the Texas Book Repository.
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Master Gracey Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 02:08 AM
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26. But Cleveland???
I read this amazingly in-depth (and tongue-in-cheek) book on all the Paul Is Dead rumors, called "The Walrus Was Paul." The author brought up this incredible theory at the end, and it was the first time I'd ever heard it. I don't actually own the book, so I can't directly quote, but to paraphrase:

When news spread that the Beatles were coming to America in '63, a Cleveland radio station vowed that they would "stamp out" the British Invasion by not playing the Beatles' records. When the band held their famous press conference, they were asked about Cleveland's plan to stamp out the Beatles. John replied, "We have our plan for stamping out Cleveland."

Even though the myth of the Paul Is Dead rumors claim that he died in 1966, credible lyrical and album cover clues started with their 1964 album, "Beatles For Sale." The so-called clues consist of much the same stuff as the more well-known clues from the later albums (such as Paul being the only one not wearing a hat on the cover of 1965's "Help!"). These clues continue right on through the Beatles' career.

The Paul Is Dead rumor started shortly after the band broke up. One night, a caller phoned a radio station, listing out all the "evidence" found in the lyrics, album covers, and backwards messages. In what city was the radio station that the phone call was placed? You guessed it. Cleveland. The author of the book makes a strong case that the Beatles really did purposely plant clues, even though the public made up quite a few on their own. It was done with increasing boldness throughout the years with the intent on opening the floodgates of rumor after the band's demise. The author believes that someone in the Beatles' camp probably placed that call (he goes so far as to say it might have been Lennon or George Martin.)

To check out the book for yourselves:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684850621/qid=1058944021/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-4175024-2251910?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

And here's a very funny article proclaiming that everyone but Paul died:
http://udel.edu/~mm/beatles/paulLives/paulLives.html
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R0CKY Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 03:46 AM
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27. gotta love conspiracy
I prefer the moon conspiracy, that's a good read.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:53 AM
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28. No
I believe it all an intentional hoax. It started out with a few weird items, and i think the Beatles played on it after that.

I've never bought that the Paul we have now is any other than the real Paul.
The Professor
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:59 AM
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29. Definitely not
I really like Wings, too, and the singer sure sounds like Paul. And I'm sure Paul has had some sort of identification by now. This rumor is as plausible as the Elvis Is Alive one.

I don't believe that Courtney killed Kurt either - or else I would definitely not buy her CDs, as much as I love her music. She has a new one coming out in the fall that I'm anxious for. :)
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