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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:07 PM
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Someone keeps telling me that I am ugly!
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:23 PM by elshiva
Feel so helpless when that happens... :cry:

On edit: Yeah, I tell it to myself all the time, that I am ugly. I am a terrible stupid person.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:07 PM
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1. Here's a suggestion:
hit them.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:08 PM
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2. No dice. I am a pacifist.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:25 PM
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21. That's OK
I'm not. :evilgrin: But pay 'em no never mind. Yer cool.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:18 PM
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51. I was too.
Until * got "elected."
Now I've decided that there is a time and place for the Dark Side of the Force.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:20 PM
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54. Wow. Sorry about that hon. Don't give in to the Dark Side!
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:09 PM
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3. Just say "I wouldn't talk if I were you and I don't value your
opinion."
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:10 PM
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4. I'm a-thinkin that only an 'ugly' person would say that to someone!
:hi:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:11 PM
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6. You guessed right!
:cry:
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:12 PM
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7. you're saying it to yourself, aren't you?
it's simply not true. you are so good at seeing the beauty in other people. please try to see the beauty in yourself. i see it.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:15 PM
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11. Thanks! Sure, but it is the truth. People been saying that all my life...
must be true...

If people saw me on this board they would all ignore me...
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:18 PM
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13. listen to the people here
we see your true self. your kindness and inner beauty. we keep saying it, so it must be true, right?

i obviously have no idea what you look like. short, tall, skinny, plump... but the person i see posting every day is wonderful and i love her. :hug:

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:19 PM
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16. I work with a group of urban youth
one of the young ladies who has become very popular - is heavy, seriously bow-legged (effects her walking), with big glasses. But she is brilliant, encouraging of others, graceful with her academic success (doesn't "lord it over" others). Of course we adults respond to this girl - she is phenominal... but the way that she is embraced - and central to others is so encouraging to me, in terms of a view that perhaps some among our young are starting to respond more to the deep than to the dressing.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:11 PM
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5. you're not ugly
and you need to remember that. :hug:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:12 PM
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8. who in hell is telling you that?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:13 PM by jonnyblitz
:hug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:13 PM
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9. Let me at 'em!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:14 PM
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10. I'm sorry, Sweety, but I'd slap shit from their head. You are beautiful.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:15 PM
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12. Then hit me god damn it! Slap me! I am such a bitch!
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:18 PM
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14. Not quite as bitchy as the woman married to my 'ex'-brother.
You have to replace your destructive talk with constructive talk.
If you haven't seen a therapist - I would highly recommend it.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:35 PM
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31. Nuh uh, you're just feeling down. We all are beautiful in someone's eyes.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:46 PM
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40. Thank you!
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:18 PM
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15. Eh, just tell him....
"I reported your face to the local zookeeper and one of his baboons said he wants his ass back."
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:00 PM
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68. Oh crap that is funny!
:silly:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:19 PM
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17. What kind of a horrible person would say something like that?
They obviously have no self-esteem, so they try to bring themselves up by picking on you.

You are beautiful. We value you here. Please value yourself...you're worth it. :)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:21 PM
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19. Thanks. Actually it is myself who is telling myself this...
it's a disorder and it is difficult... but thanks...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:27 PM
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25. For a period in my twenties, I did this
it was a wierd (but sorta understandable) result of being raped by someone I knew in my last year of college.

If I looked in the mirror and saw someone unattractive - than I would be less vulnerable to being viewed as "attractive" - by male friends / acquaintances - and thus "safer" from being raped.

Sorta sick, because rape really isn't about someone thinking you are attractive and over zealously wanting you that way. Thus the whole self-message is sorta irrelevant.

But sorta understandable (until I figured it out) - as otherwise I would be forever in fear that any male I encountered, worked with and was friends with might rape me. At that point in time - if I saw myself as ugly - I was no longer a possible target.

When I finally dealed with the root event (the rape) I started realizing all of the crazy way I coped. For a while in my twenties I wondered why I had been "cute" in my teens and suddenly became so "ugly" in my twenties. Truth is, I hadn't changed much - but my (subconscience - intentional) self image had - in a dysfunctional way to try to self-protect.

Odd, eh?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:30 PM
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29. Sorry, salin!
:hug: It's not odd! It is how you coped and survived!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:35 PM
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30. thank you elshiva
it took along time to take the veils from eyes - to see how it had effected me, but I survived in the short term (due to the coping mechanisms) - and have healed in the long term (due to realizing all those coping mechanisms for what they were.)

My point, however, is that perhaps your issue may be self-imposed as some kind of self-protection mechanism against something else altogether. Only due to the advantage of age, do I see this in my own life.

See my note about my experience with young teens (14-16) today. This group is a whole lot more 'deep' in terms of who they choose to radiate to, than I think my generation had been at their age. I find it very hopeful.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:42 PM
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34. You are welcome. salin.
That sounds like some nice kids! Now I am 23! ;(
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:46 PM
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39. ah - you have many years
to gain wisdom and perspective. Things will turn out cool. The fact that you have some insight into this - means you can deal with it. Wasnt until my thirties that I realized that the thing I did "to protect myself" (without realizing I was doing it) - was simply that. Got over it - and came to appreciate myself again - physical and spiritually speaking. May you find that peace, as well.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:47 PM
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41. Thanks!
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:28 PM
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27. Oh elshiva.
I hope you are getting treatment for that. Some of the things we have to deal with in life are so difficult.

You are a bright and shining light. Just remember that.

I'm sure it's very hard for you to share this with us. See how courageous you are?

Chin up, hon. The world's a better place with you in it.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:20 PM
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18. Don't let anyone put you down like that.
Please don't. I'm living proof that doing the biblical thing and turning the other cheek does no good when it comes to ones self-esteem and confidence. There is crap I'm struggling with because all I've done for years is let others reject me or berate me in some way. Find whatever works for you to stand up and tell them to kiss your ass.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:22 PM
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20. Actually, I can kick the crap out of myself and I have...
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:25 PM
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22. be careful with that
:hug:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:28 PM
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28. Tell me about it.
There's no one tougher on me than me. When we do that our enemies win without lifting a finger.
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FreedomFry Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:26 PM
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23. Ugly is *. Ugly is his mother. Ugly is Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin ...
etc., etc., ad infinitum.

Ugly is some asswipe's ugly state of mind. Ugly is sadism, cruelty to animals, beating your wife, messing up your kids, running your country into the ground

AND...

.... calling other people ugly.

You are so far beyond whoever is calling you ugly. Don't let them have such power over you.

You are sensitive and sweet. Therefore:

YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!

And don't nobody tell you any different.
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:27 PM
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24. Terrible stupid people
send other peoples children off to kill and be killed. Once you start doing that; you can call yourself names. Until then :hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Actually I have hurt a lot of people, so yes I am ugly.
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:36 PM
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32. So what you're saying
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:38 PM by sparky_in_ma
is you're really George Bush? You look so much taller on TV.:D

(I put the Clark pic on the other thread for you.)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:43 PM
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35. Thanks for the Clark pic! No I am Nixon! Just look...
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:01 PM
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43. OMG
You seem so much smarter on DU than you ever did on TV.:silly:

How's your little dog Checkers?:D
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:04 PM
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45. I ate Checkers. yum
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:05 PM
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46. With gravy?
And a nice red wine?:P
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:18 PM
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50. No with cottage cheese and ketchup of course.
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:19 PM
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53. ewwww
No cottage cheese with dog burgers.:puke:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:22 PM
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55. Well, seriously Nixon loved to eat
ketchup and cottage cheese!
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:24 PM
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56. I did not know that.
Proves you're smarter than me.:D
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:25 PM
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57. Well it was in "The Fireside Watergate"
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:38 PM
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33. Good, I'm glad you're ugly
That way you won't coast through life on looks like so many useless pieces of shit.

Drop Society, history proves it knows jack shit.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:44 PM
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36. HEyHEY you are a genius. Thank you!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:13 PM
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48. Of course I'm a genius I'm ugly!
And I have man boobs!
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:50 PM
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60. Hey HeyHey
(I will never get bored with that). The next time I'm out in the Okanagan, we HAVE to get together and raise a few (Kokanees? Okanagan Spring? Some of my dad's "Christmas" brews... my folks now have a condo in Vernon, but their land is in Lumby FYI. Not that far from Penticton). We have to met, just to satisfy my curiousity. Now this is turning into some sort of socialistlovelorn.com site. Hey! I should do that thing... you know. Register it. But, being a socialist, I have no money. Sigh.

Sigh again. Too many Kokanees. Not enough brain power.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:19 AM
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63. Oh, shit yeah!
Should you ever come out my way... let me know! We'll drink Jameson till one of us sees god, or satan. I guess that will depend on which has an open schedule.
I'll tell you right now, your curiosity is wasted... I'm quite normal... I don't care what that fucking nurse at the psych ward says.
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:50 AM
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66. Well, HeyHey
she might be my sister. Which would be like letting the fox be in charge of the chicken house. But, I digress. You could come out here to Alberta. And although I know that you are a young man, I won't hold that against you (unless you insist).

Okay, that was going into a territory to which I don't want to go... Let's take it off line, so to speak.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:44 PM
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37. What purpose can it serve to
put yourself down, hon?

Maybe you need to do unto yourself as you would do unto others. :hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:45 PM
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38. OK, but I am Nixon!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:01 PM
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42. Pretty
tricky.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:04 PM
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44. Tricky Dick that is!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:04 AM
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61. I'm confused.
I thought you were Dick Cheney. :shrug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:12 AM
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62. Couldn't I be both Cheney and Nixon?
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:21 AM
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64. Of course not...
because then you'd really BE ugly! :evilgrin:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:42 AM
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65. But I am both Cheney and Nixon!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:06 PM
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47. Don't listen to people who tell you that
They are only trying to hurt you.


And don't tell yourself that you are ugly, terrible, stupid, etc. It will only cause more damage. You are a good person, worthy of being treated like one. Don't settle for anything less, from yourself or anyone else!:hug:
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:15 PM
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49. Hey, little bunny
and I only say that to people I like. I am not the best looking person in the world (that would be Angelina Jolie. heee.) But after a certain amount of time, I realised it didn't matter. I am the way I look. I am neither ugly nor pretty (on the outside). I am (and you are too) absolutely fucking gorgeous on the inside. And someday, that will come out and knock someone down. As my dear old mum says, "Beauty is skin deep, but ugly... goes right to the bone". Some of the "ugliest" people I've met have been the most beautiful people. Just sayin... :pals:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:19 PM
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52. Thanks! You are sweet. Could Natalie Portman be the
best looking person in the world? Ask Kleeb...

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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:31 PM
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58. Ok, this is important...
if you are not already recieving counseling of some kind...please please please try to get some help in dealing with this. You're a wonderful person and we can tell you that til the cows come home...but you need to get some professional help in getting yourself to believe it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:40 PM
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59. did you hear this before growing up?
I WILL KICK THEIR ASS
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:58 PM
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67. I struggle with this too
Last week, I went to a ANAD (Anorexia Nervosa and Asscoiated Disorders). Even though the other women who introduced themselves said they were in recovery, rather than in their disorder, they tended to think the same way that I did. They were all perfectionists who feared failiure and cared very much about what other people thought of them. Hearing them tell about how they struggled with such thinking helped me realize how destructive this thinking was in myself. One of the older women, who seemed to have it most together or at least talked a good talk, said though that she had come to realize that we should be satisfied with small success and not to view anything as faliure.
I don't know if you are a perfectionist or not. I don't know if you judge yourself against an ideal. You do evidently judge yourself somewhat against other people . Try not to do that. Be alright being you even if you cannot look as good as the person who you would want to look like or your friends or cousins or whoeve else you wish that you would look like. You are beautiful enough by just being you.
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