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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:01 PM
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Poll question: Best AMERICAN Rock & Roll Band Of All-Time
No Brits. No Krauts. No Swedes. No Canucks!!!

Tell me, who's the best Yankee band of all time?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:07 PM
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1. The Byrds or the Beachboys - I can't make up my mind.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 08:10 PM
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50. Yes! Both!
And: The Sonics, The Standells, The Kingsmen...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:07 PM
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2. seems somewhat competitive
I'm kicking it, just so it doesn't fall off the page too quickly.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:08 PM
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3. Missed an important one
The Beach Boys!
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:09 PM
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4. Interlopers
two-thirds of Hendrix Experience were Brits or else I might vote for them.
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:09 PM
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5. MC5
.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:11 PM
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6. What!?! No Bee-Gees in the poll?
;)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:14 PM
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14. Australian ....
Phhhhtttttt.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:36 PM
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26. Nooooooo! Tell me it isn't so!
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:22 PM
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56. Actually, they were born on the Isle of Man (UK)
And emigrated to Australia.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:12 PM
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7. For me it's got to be The Doors!
Jimi Hendrix Experience not really an American band! Creedence is way up there!
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:12 PM
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8. Hmmm
The Jimi Hendrix Experience was arguably a British band, since it was founded and based in London, and two of its members were British.

A pretty good case could be made for the Grateful Dead, in terms of depth of roots, longevity and loyalty to original design.

Another good case could be made for the Eagles, in terms of commercial success.

Or, the Byrds or The Stooges, for wide reaching influence.

I'd say the best band in America NOW is Los Lobos. All-time best? Tough one.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:37 PM
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40. I have to agree with you there
It runs afoul the no brits rule
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:13 PM
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9. Van Halen!!

And no I do NOT include Van Hagar or that other godawful mutation in 1998 :puke:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:04 AM
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64. Great band
Lousy showmen. I saw them maybe a dozen times. Towards the end of Roth's reign, up to an hour of a two-hour show would be just Dave holding court. And after Women and Children First, Michael Anthony ditched his solo spot for that painful Apocalypse Now on Bass thing -- that was always the time when the lines to the refreshments and toilets were the longest.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:13 PM
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10. The Stooges, The Velvet Underground........
....and the Beach Boys circa Friends, 20/20, Pet Sounds would get my vote before any of the bands listed.

And I can't believe that Cheap Trick didn't make the list.
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:14 PM
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15. Agreed
on VU and Cheap Trick.
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:24 PM
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20. And Hear Hear for the Stooges...
My all time fave :)

VU, Talkingheads, & Buttholes Surfers round out my list...

pp23
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:30 PM
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23. Talking Heads
Jeesh. How could I forget about the Heads?

I'm changing my vote. No doubt, the Heads were the best American band ever.
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:35 PM
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25. talking heads rock.
.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:42 PM
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31. I change my vote - Talking Heads
:thumbsup:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:41 PM
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41. Yay STOOOGES!!!!
They (and the Beach Boys) are my top two American faves, with honarable mentions to the VU, MC5 and Sly and the Family Stone.

"Funhouse" is one of my Top 10 desert island LPs. I even forked out $110 a few years back for that Rhino boxset of the full Funhouse Sessions. Forty-odd takes of every damn song on the album, plus a couple of others who didn't make the cut. Fan-freakin-tastic!

Glad to see fellow Stooge fans here! :toast:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:18 PM
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48. VU
absolutely!
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:13 PM
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11. Pixies
A fat balding man screaming in Spanish wins every time.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:13 PM
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12. Steely Dan
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:16 PM
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16. eh
I'm a huge Dan fan, but they were studio creatures, built largely on production and hired guns. Quality stuff, but more a songwriting partnership than a band, per se.
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theemu Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:14 PM
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13. Velvet Underground
Definitely.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:19 PM
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17. The Doors or the Dead
Groups that even some of today's young people like.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:30 PM
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24. My vote is for the Dead, of course.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:20 PM
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18. Lynard Skynard
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:26 PM
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22. Skynard? are you kidding
Edited on Wed Oct-29-03 04:27 PM by SCantiGOP
"well Watergate does not bother me.."

on edit: when they decided to trash Neil Young, I decided to side with the Canadian and not listen to anymore of their redneck rock.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:36 PM
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27. Yeah but they were a HELLUVA band
That should be up there.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 05:04 PM
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35. Hell no I'm not
The line before "Watergate does not bother me" is "We all did what we could do." Try being a southern kid during the later stages of desegregation, and watching your parents and some friends fighting their neighbors, and then hear Neil young lump your parents with the sheet wearers. Neil Young (hasn't he become a conservative) is a great songwriter, but he was wrong on that one.

Besides, "Saturday Night Special" really pisses of the gun-toting wingnuts.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:44 PM
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42. Neil isn't a Conservative anymore...
But he did sing "Sweet Home Alabama" at a show he did right after Ronnie died in the plane crash.

And if you mention Skynyrd, you can't forget the Allman Brothers. They were the ones who cleared the southern-rock path.

But Skynyrd is consistently underrated, especially by the "rock elite" who think that REM is southern rock and "Losing My Religion" is a deep, meaningful song.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 10:22 PM
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51. Allman Brothers were good, but boring as dust in concert
All southern rock was commentary on Skynard and Greg Allman, though, as you say.

I hadn't heard that Young sang "Sweet Home Alabama" after Ronnie's death. Nice gesture.

Young is a great songwriter who still has an edge, unlike others of his era. But his grasp of politics is weak. He mostly fumes after the fact, rather than understanding which side to support during the fact. Great rager, though.

And for the record, I think "Losing My Religion" was a great love song from an otherwise over-rated band. One of the best videos ever, too, in the context of its time.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:12 AM
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65. The Allmans could be worse than boring
I only saw them once (post Duane and Berry, unfortunately) and went home tired, with a headache. Greg was nodding in the throes of his addictions and the rest seemed to want to be elsewhere. They were ungodly loud and distorted, their sound system driven way past its capabilities. One of the longest three hour shows I'd ever endured. Just awful.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:23 PM
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19. The Velvets are my favorite, but they had no popular appeal...
or success and since rockandroll is a populist "art form", my vote would have to go to the Byrds (who slightly edge out CCR)
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:26 PM
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21. others
Edited on Wed Oct-29-03 04:28 PM by 56kid
I voted Creedence.
Looking over the list some more though... I notice that it does leave off quite a few that people have been mentioning. & what about artists that are not bands exactly? Dylan, Buddy Holly, Roky Erickson who can be argued to contain something seminal...
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:39 PM
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29. Dire Straights.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:45 PM
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32. er.......um.............
<whispers>..they were English, mate.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:46 PM
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43. Dang, They speak American and everything!
They sure had me fooled.
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:32 PM
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38. Well, Dylan
as a pop music personality is rivaled ONLY by Louis Armstrong and George Gershwin in this century, in my view.

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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:35 PM
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39. With Elvis
very close behind...
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:39 PM
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28. Neil Young and Crazy Horse
The Rust Never Sleeps tour back in the late '70s ROCKED!!
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 05:02 PM
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34. weren't they canadian?
I know Neil Young is.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 05:06 PM
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36. Which American
Canadians are Americans too, North Americans at that.
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 05:07 PM
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37. Crazy Horse are all Yanks, I believe
All from 'round LA, i think.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 06:46 PM
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44. Neil may be naturalized in the US
but I don't know for sure.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:42 PM
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30. The Dead.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 04:50 PM
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33. Not even a "real" poll without 'em...
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:00 PM
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45. They would fit into the real poll for the most talentless, boring group
Or possibly a Jeopardy category like "Human-based, Sentinent, Sleep-Inducement Agents"
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 10:23 PM
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52. LOL! That's my opinion of them and Steely Dan, but I wasn't going to say.
nt.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:22 PM
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57. Lemme guess. You never went to a show, right?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:37 AM
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60. Saw them twice
I never was bananas about the Dead, thought their music was tepid and pedestrian. I was dragged to a show in the early 70s, while they were still in the midst of their "cowboy" phase (they had the world's largest sound system then, an awesome sight, looked like a city skyline with rafter-scraping towers!). It was an endurance test for me, four and a half hours of Jerry and the boys meandering and noodling.

A couple of years later I saw them again, and they were more jazzy and experimental, much more palatable, but still no great shakes. And this time they played for FIVE hours. However...

Some time around the second hour something happened, they found their sweet spot, nailed their groove, whatever. The hall seemed to get clearer and brighter and suddenly they were ON. The crowd was ecstatic, the hippies lost it in their version of moshing, roiling and tumbling on the floor and aisles. I was astonished, didn't have an inkling that the band had it in them. Lasted about an hour before they settled back into their usual splattery jamming.

I'm still not crazy about the Dead, but I finally understood the devotion they inspired, they could have their moments of greatness.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:17 PM
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71. Went to see them twice, both at Laguna Seca
And had the dubious distinction of waking up to find several of their followers sleeping on my front lawn (my house at the time was about 4 miles from LS).

What was astounding was that they were even more boring in concert.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:05 PM
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46. The Pixies.
At least, that's my opinion...
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:16 PM
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47. Creedence
with Ramones a tough second choice.

Where are the Byrds?
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:44 PM
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49. The Byrds.
xx
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 10:26 PM
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53. Jimi Hendrix Experience were an English band.
Hendrix couldnt get the american record companies to give him a break. He went to Britain and teamed up with Mitch and Noel and was signed by an English recording company.
Jimi was am american from Seattle but the band was british.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:18 AM
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67. That's true.
But they don't even count. They sucked.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:20 PM
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54. Boston (musically) Eagles (lifestyle)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:21 PM
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55. The Grateful Dead
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lynndew2 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 11:45 PM
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58. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
Watch out where the huskies go and dont you eat that yellow snow.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 12:32 AM
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59. Oooo.....Decisions, decisions,
The local boys at position 6, or the local boys at position 8...
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kyrasdad Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:41 AM
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61. SHA NA NA!!!
NOT...

Just for longevity sake it should be Aerosmith... And besides that they are the best!
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 01:48 AM
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62. Being from NJ...
...I had to go with Bruuuuuce!
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:02 AM
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63. shit, I have tried, but I can't do it, I have to
break it down by decade:

60's: split: The Grateful Dead/The Velvet Underground/BeachBoys a.k.a. Brian Wilson

70's: Todd Rundgren and Utopia

80's: R.E.M.

90's: Pavement

00's: My Morning Jacket (so far)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 02:17 AM
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66. Most American bands
are shit. It's unfortunate. That's a paltry crowd to pick from. No Zeps or Beatles or Stones. :(
I dunno. I think Simon and Garfunkel and CSNY were damned good. The Doors. Hendrix was good but his band was shit, and, personally, I hate the Dead. After that you've got to go to your white trash bands....Creedance....Skynyrd...I dunno. It's starting to get real thin, now.....

Prolly have more luck with alternative bands if you're looking for the Americans to stick out. We blazed more trails in that area it seems.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 03:28 AM
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68. Bad Brains!


Now you know!
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 03:33 AM
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69. FYI The Experience were Brits
Jimi had to go to England to become famous; his band was a UK creation. If you want to talk an American Hendrix band, then you can talk about Band of Gypsies (a much improved incarnation, IMHO).
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:00 AM
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70. Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers!
Ya buncha Commie bastidges!!!!!

:P
dbt
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