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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:14 AM
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"Ten Most Harmful Books" (wingnut site's list)
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591

Interestingly, Darwin only gets honorable mentions, but Auguste Comte makes it into the show. :shrug:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:19 AM
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1. I saw that.
Look at how they discredit Betty Friedan and 'The Feminie Mystique;' they start saying she was a Maxist (whatever!).


I think I'll make sure I've read all of them. Jerks! As if READING hurts people! I guess the Rethugs must believe that - they don't read very much, do they?
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:21 AM
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3. that's the same mental note I made
Friedan... a communist because she wanted something else in her life besides a family? Why is it not communistic (is that a word?) when men have a life outside the home?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:29 AM
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8. but that's the very definition of fundi neoconservatism
the idea that ideas themselves are dangerous and must be stamped out.



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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:17 PM
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35. Well, that's the thing.
If I take a look at a particular country's government, I'm concerned about how much representation the common folk have. I'm not worried about the label of the day.

I do NOT like totalitarian regimes, of any variety. You can call them 'fascist' or you can call them 'communist.'

But I will read about 'communism' (an economic idea) any time I'd like.

And the Rethuglicans can' t automatically get me to experience fear just when it is mentioned.

What should be changed is ANY totalitarian regime - whether we mean China (communism) or Saudi Arabia (that has a royal family).

They must not like people exploring the differences between these concepts in any depth (that's probably a 'duh' comment - but I just had to say it. And it is what I throw back in my Fundie Bushbot acquaintances' faces.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:22 PM
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38. Or the Bush version
of a Fascist regime. I guess we could technically consider the current leadership of the USA as a Fascist Theocracy, though.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:19 AM
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2. seriously
'silent spring' is a damaging book?

oh, nice! Introduction to Psychoanalysis w/Freud made honorable mention!! :rofl:

so basically all fear is attributed to political figures/feminists/activists/and evolution?


do you listen to bill hicks at all, asthmaticeog?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:26 AM
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7. Hicks? Hells yeah!
I've got all the albums and vids, plus a friend of mine has a four hour videotape compilation of unreleased cable concerts, public access TV appearances(!) and other sundry Hicks arcana. I don't think anyone today approcahes his brilliance and fearlessness except maybe (MAYBE) David Cross.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:29 AM
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9. oh right on!
fuck, now I don't remember why I brought him up in the first place...:shrug:

i agree with ya on david cross. was it hicks or cross that did the "I don't know......Faggot" line?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:32 AM
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12. That was Cross.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:21 AM
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4. Honorable Mention -- "The Population Bomb"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:21 AM by wtmusic
I'd hate to think we can't keep popping out babies. Let's just pretend we can, 'kay?

It's obvious that the reviewer never even read the books listed. Mein Kampf is a boring, poorly written piece of crap. Oh yeah--it's written by Hitler, so it must be dangerous.

Also interesting that two books by Marx make the list...apparently if they think they're dangerous, Marx must have a point.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:41 AM
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19. Thesis -- Antithesis -- Synthesis
Original for its time, it's pretty much a standrad way of looking at history these days. It seems so much like common sense that it's easy to forget that no one had ever really approached history in these terms before.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:22 AM
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5. Hilarious. He knows how to pick 'em.
Glad to see both Beyond Good and Evil and Beyond Freedom and Dignity on the same shitlist.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:28 PM
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40. Oh LORD
these people are on the CRACK

"He could not have predicted 21st Century America: a free, affluent society based on capitalism and representative government that people the world over envy and seek to emulate."

Stalinist Marxist is a contradiction.

"The Nazis loved Nietzsche."

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tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:26 AM
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6. Review of Das Kapital
has this line
......portraying capitalism as an ugly phase in the development of human society in which capitalists inevitably and amorally exploit labor by paying the cheapest possible wages to earn the greatest possible profits.

outsourcing anyone?
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:29 AM
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10. the idea that people would decide to have a contest
to find "the most harmful books." Flabergasting!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:30 AM
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11. The KINSEY REPORT??!!!???
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:30 AM by terrya
For someone to think of that important book (books, actually) as "harmful" is sad beyond imagining.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:45 AM
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23. or Keynes
most important book on economic theory since "The Wealth of Nations"
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 AM
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13. John Dewey helped nurture "The Clinton Generation"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 AM by Nevernose
No, jackasses, that was Republicans who fucked up all of Dewey's advances in the 50s and 60s. Those semi-legendary "good ol' days" of education that conservatives are so fond of? Brought to you by none other than John Dewey.

How come conservatives revile science so much?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:40 AM
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18. And, um, BUSH* IS IN THE SAME GENERATION AS CLINTON!
Why does their unebbing disingenuousnes not make their fucking heads implode?
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:44 AM
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21. No amount of education could help Bush.
Don't blame Dewey! :P
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 AM
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14. Well, well, they actually came up with 15 scholars as judges? I
thought that all those university and college professors were liberals! Liked number 10 - "General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money" by John Keynes. The brief description says, "The book is a recipe for ever-expanding government. When the business cycle threatens a contraction of industry, and thus of jobs, he argued, the government should run up deficits, borrowing and spending money to spur economic activity." If it's so dangerous, why is Bush implementing that theory?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:46 AM
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24. Well....
One of their scholars is Phyllis Schlafly, who is dumber than a sack of doorknobs. After that you have a smattering of hacks from conservative institutes. There are only eight "scholars" on the panel -- being those who actually work at a university. And even some of those are academic powerhouses like Elizabethtown College and Randolph-Macon (who?).

Just as with the performing arts -- conservative performers tend to run the gamut from Debby Boone to Ted Nugent -- conservative intellectuals tend to be a C-List collection of tired ideologues who are just thrilled to see their names in print.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 AM
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15. On Liberty
Do fundies have their sense of irony removed at some point?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 AM
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16. Guess I'll have to add some of those to my reading list.

Only because they say its bad, it must be good.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:38 AM
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17. And the books they do recommend:
At least they are trying to sell them.
Perfect Soldiers
Shake Down
The Eighties (Reagan love)
The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.

http://www.hebookservice.com/
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:43 AM
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20. Democracy and Education? On Liberty?
What idiots! Especially since John Stuart Mill's work influenced the Declaration of Independence.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:46 AM
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25. John Stuart Mill
was around in the mid 1800s----he was a Utilitarian philosopher, look him up. I had to read his philosophy for college.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:44 AM
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22. what kind of wingnut fucker would put Keynes on a list
of most dangerous books....the guy was brilliant. :grr:

He had an influence on modern government policy but not as a fringe writer like Hitler or Mao, whose ideas really did end up killing millions....
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:47 AM
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26. Yikes. Where's the BIBLE? Millions have been killed cuz of it...
...as well as its use as a rationale to enslave, impoverish and disenfranchise millions more. Over a couple thousand years now, too.

I'd put it #1, myself.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:52 AM
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27. The list is 19th & 20th centuries only. Notice no Koran?
:eyes:
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:57 AM
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29. LOL...yeah, I reckon their "education" only goes so far!
None of the Classics!

:rofl:

Thanks for pointing that out!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:52 AM
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28. I'd like to see a real list sometime.. as judged by normal professors. n/t
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:28 PM
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39. Could not be done, because normal professors
know that NO book is dangerous... only the actions of the readers are.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:11 PM
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30. Bouncing around the librarian listservs right now
Everyone is searching through their catalogs to find out how many of these are in their collections, to see where they rank on the evil-meter.

But on the bright side, at least Harry Potter isn't on this one. I could see it now: "Harry Potter, the book that introduced millions of good Christian children to witchcraft, disrespect for authority, and quidditch."
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:16 PM
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31. on Honorable mention list: Darwin "Origin of Species"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 12:17 PM by jonnyblitz
surprise.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:19 PM
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32. KEYNES??????
:wtf: kind of list is this?

That doesn't even make sense in their minds...

:shrug:
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:00 PM
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33. Hitler, Keynes, Friedan
It all makes sense to me.
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hoffmanmotors Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:10 PM
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34. That’s hilarious
I guess they mean harmful to their cozy little notion of the world.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:19 PM
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36. Ok... The Manifesto
Vs. Mein Kamph, and it gets the NUMBER ONE?

:crazy:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:20 PM
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37. I can not fucking believe
that The Feminine Mystique is #7 (or 6) on that list. These guys are really quite sick.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:33 PM
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41. I like where they try to blame the national debt on FDR

HEY ASSHOLES!! IT WAS YOUR BELOVED SAINT REAGAN WHO RAN UP THOSE DEBTS IN THE 1980'S, NOT FDR!!

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