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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:15 PM
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Poll question: Missouri or Missourah?
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:16 PM
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1. With an "i"! With an "i"!
Pronouced "ee."

:)
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:18 PM
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2. Neither . . . Misery . . .
from a Kansan, hehehee
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:19 PM
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4. This is the correct answer.
Rock Chalk!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:37 PM
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49. That's right
and MUCK FIZZOU.

LOL :bounce:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:30 PM
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9. If you're a Kansan, you must know why the trees in Missouri lean west.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:33 PM
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12. I feel like I've heard the punchline, but fire away......
I can't remember.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:39 PM
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15. Because Kansas SUCKS!
That was a favorite T-shirt slogan at Mizzou in the 80's.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:45 PM
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18. Hilarious.
Know what Mizzou grads call KU grads? Boss.

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:03 AM
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21. Never heard that one, but it fits the rivalry
Actually, Kansas has some interesting biological things about it IMO. It also has Fred Phelps though. And Missouri has its share of SchizoChristians too.
Now I live in Ohio, and I'm finding out the same thing here it seems. I don't remember the US being this way before.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:48 PM
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22. Please....we try not to even mention that maniacal freak is from
Kansas. I get steamed even hearing his name. When I was a student at the University of Kansas, he and his self-righteous thugs would show up on campus. I've been in more than one yelling match with them, but I had to give it up. I realized that I was just falling into their trap and that all they were doing was transferring their immense anger to me.

I believe that I can speak for every single Kansan outside of his compound (and yes...that crazy bastard actually has a compound), when I say that we want him out. That is one case where I wouldn't necessarily mind if an angry, crazed mob with torches and pitch forks set out for his place..........
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:46 PM
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56. How do you get a Mizzou grad off your front porch?
Pay for your pizza!!
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:04 PM
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34. Well spoken from Can's Ass!
And now I guess you Ill of Noise people will chime in.

It's Mizz er EE. And that's a fact!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:19 PM
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3. I'm going to have to vote for both. The far western
part of the state, Kansas City, prefers Missouri. Middle Missouri and east is most definitely Missourah or Mizzurah.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:24 PM
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5. People actually from Missouri say "ah". I was born there but moved
when I was 5 so I say i (pronounced "ee") but my parents and relatives all say "ah".

I don't know if it is generational thing and/or it also applies if you've lived there a long time but IMO it is "ah" for the locals and "i" for the outsiders.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:26 PM
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7. I'm in St. Louis.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:26 PM by deadparrot
It's Missouri, with an "i" here. :)

Further west, it becomes "ah," but a lot of us use "i," too.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:30 PM
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10. The Missourah is fairly exclusive to the middle part. Columbia, Jeff City
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:31 PM by Scout1071
Ozarks.

Most Kansas Citians pronounce it Missouri.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:33 PM
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13. That's what I thought,
but I wasn't 100% sure. :)

Generally, the more urban, the more you hear "ee."
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:44 PM
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17. My family is from St Joseph and my parents live in Overland Park.
They will never give up the "ah".

My sister and I used to argue with them about it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:54 PM
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25. Actually most mid staters also say it with an "i"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 04:57 PM by MadHound
The whole ah thing is a southern/rural Missouri thing. I live in Central Mo, and have lived in southern and rural Mo, and it is definitely a regional thing.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:32 PM
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11. No they don't
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:33 PM by EstimatedProphet
I lived there for 20 years, and in all that time I met one person that said Missourah.
On edit: most of that time was spent in Columbia.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:34 PM
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14. I know many people from Columbia and they do, indeed, call it
Missourah. Native Columbians!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:43 PM
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16. I only met one
Geography/History teach 5-8th grade, and she was from a small town closer to the Ozarks.
I'm not saying I disbelieve you, it's just contrary to my experience, and I lived there for 20 years.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:51 PM
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19. OK, I googled and here is one site I found:
"Missouri.

-snip-

It's a name whose pronunciation residents of the state argue about.

To some of us the ending "i" is softened into a sort of "uh". Missour-uh.

This pronunciation tends to be favored by lifelong residents, especially older people and people with rural roots or preferences.

To others the "i" is pronounced "ee" Missour-ee.

This pronunciation is almost universally used outside the state, so by definition newcomers, who learned to speak in some other place, say Missour-ee. This pronunciation is also favored among people who don't want to be identified with another tradition of the state: people who say Missour-ee tend not to say, "I'm from Missouri. You'll have to show me."

This debate smolders along in urban Missouri, occasionally surfacing in letters-to-the-editor wars in the Kansas City Star and elsewhere. The Missour-ee faction likes to point out that "i" never makes an "uh" sound anywhere else in the language, but we locals point out that it comes pretty close in Lou-uh-vull, spelled Louisville, and even NPR's Bob Edwards gets that one right.

But I'm from Missour-uh. You'll have to show me."

http://longestriver.org/pronunciation.html
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:34 PM
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47. Born and raised. Never said "ah"
Missoureee
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:24 PM
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6. EEEE!
I HATE the way it sounds when they say Missourah. What the fuck do I know coming from Kansas. Still, it sounds really dumb to pronounce it with an ahhhhh at the end IMO.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:45 PM
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54. Hey Muse
All good Democrats say EEE. That's what my daddy taught me. And he grew up in Goodland, KS so he ought to know. (That's what my mom always said.)

Anyhow, ASScroft taught me to say EEEEE. LOL
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:29 PM
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8. chicago says "ee"
the way it should be

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enigami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:01 AM
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20. My Mother pronounced it Missourah
But she also pronounced Hawaii as Hawayah. I winced at both It is deffinately Missouri EEEE.
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:51 PM
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23. My grandpa went thru basic training there modifed to "God Awful Missouri"
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:58 PM
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28. Fort Lost-in-the-Woods?
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:49 PM
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31. Yep,
My dad (her grandfather) went thru training at Ft. Woods in the 40's (WWII) during a hot, humid summer and said that was the one place he would never visit again!

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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:53 PM
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24. The Repuke politicians alwas say "ah" and the Dems always
"ee". In the cities it is "ee" and in the rural areas it is "ah". To me it is "ee". I live in St. Louis.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:30 PM
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38. Not neccessarily.
I;ve heard Pat Leahy say Missourah, and he's from Vermont.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:04 AM
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68. I mean Missouri politicans....
it was striking in the last campaign. You could tell the candidates party by how he proununced the states name.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:55 PM
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26. I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:18 PM
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35. FYI - The University of Kansas plays that clip on the videoboard
at football games when we play Mizzou. They also show the clip from The Outlaw Josey Wales where Sondra Locke refuses to buy the wheat from Missouri "cause everything from Missouri is just a little bit tainted."

Good times.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:19 PM
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36. Delete!
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 01:21 PM by Scout1071
Accidental double post.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:55 PM
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27. Ok. I live in Missouri.
They actually did some research on this.
We have i-70 crossing our state from one end to the other. The research showed the most people who live north of 70 pronounce it w/ a long e on the end. Most who live south pronounce it w/ an ah at the end. There will be differences depending on how family pronounced it, people who have relocated, etc. Also the research stated that the area around I-70 is a free zone. It can be pronounced either way around there.
I pronounce it w/ an e but I am originally from WI and moved here in high school.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:20 PM
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29. Grew up in rural Cass County
I heard both there but my father always went with ee as did my grandmother. Here in Jackson County as an adult I hear it both ways.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:29 PM
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44. East or West Cass?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:34 PM
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30. I think people from rural areas of the state
say Missour-ah. I live in St Louis and said Missour-ee.

John Ashcroft says Missour-ah and that's enough for me never to say it that way.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:52 PM
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32. Whattya know. Ashcroft & Harry Truman had something in common.
Truman prounounced it M'zurrah.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:54 PM
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33. I've never been to Missouri
but a friend of mine is from there and he says that most of the people he knew when he lived there called it Missourah.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:35 PM
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37. According to an obscure state law...
the 'true' pronunciation is...


however the current Governor pronounces it. Seriously. We can't even make up our minds on how to pronounce our state's name.
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greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:02 PM
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39. the other side
from a Kansas side KC resident.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:28 PM
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40. Welcome to DU greymattermom.
KC - Kansas side - here as well. OP to be exact.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:52 PM
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41. The Show Me State !!!
:kick:
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:03 PM
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42. spent a lot of childhood in bulter & nevada with my cousins
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 11:08 PM by spacelady
I grew up in nebraska. Years later someone got on my case in arkansas for saying missourah ( they had grown up in joplin) so it's kinda tomayto, tomahto, depending... however guess how ALL of them pronounce Nevada?

edited to add: Nevada, MO -kind of like houston street in NY.
Now, pronouce El Dorado as in the town in Arkansas.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:32 PM
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45. Nev -long a-duh
L-dor-long a-doh

I know how they are pronounced. Now pronounce Miami and Wakenda.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:39 PM
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50. ya got me . I have no idea, but I kinda feel sorry for the
Weather Channel meteorologists!
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:42 PM
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52. Mi (w/ a long I) am (like the word) a (short a) for Miami
(an actual town in MO-I lived about 15 miles from it).
Wa(as in the water) ken (like the boys name) dah (as in Roald Dahl sound).
Fucked all the way around.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:46 PM
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55. Thanks, now you've got me started: Beatrice, NE
You know, I have found that town natives anywhere will set one straight on pronunciation & when in Rome, ya know!
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:49 PM
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59. I know that it will be something messed up!
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:55 PM
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62. You are correct: bee-AT-riss n/t
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:00 AM
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63. suspected something like that.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:43 PM
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53. How about this
ArKANsas City, Kansas. Or the ArKANsas River.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:48 PM
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58. But Arkansas made sense to me when I first moved here.
Hell, it made sense when I was younger and first learning how to spell the states. I never understood the common pronounciation.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:54 PM
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61. The Arkansas River
changes it name from state to state. I wonder how many other rivers do that?

BTW, we are still working on planning a weekend picnic at a park here in KC. Are you still interested?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:01 AM
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65. Depends on the date.
This Sat I have the Progressive Womens picnic. Let me know when.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:06 AM
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66. Won't be for a couple weeks
I will let you know.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:17 AM
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67. Thanks.
I have a family reunion at the end of the month(actually, June is pretty much done for) but I will definitely try!
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:27 PM
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43. Long-time and beloved KC radio personality Walt Bodine
declares emphatically that there's an "i" at the end, dammit.

I trust Walt. I've been listening to him since the Sixties.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:33 PM
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46. Walt Bodine!
I could trust him.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:40 PM
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51. Oh, yeah.
I'm a graphic artist, and did the typesetting for one of his books.

But, I have a personal story about him.

You know he's been pretty much blind for years.

Well, he attended the elementary school my daughter was in when the school celebrated its 100th year. Walt came and told his stories about failing in the Manual Arts class by making crappy bookends and other things. After he spoke, a school functionary got up, and Walt sat down. Then he got up again and tried to walk off the stage. But he stepped off into the orchestra pit!
My god! We've killed Walt Bodine!
He got up, made a joke most of us couldn't hear, and someone helped him out.
He's still going strong on local public radio. And this happened about 12 years ago.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:47 PM
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57. I've herad that he is almost blind.
I didn't know he was still going. I just haven't listened to him in awhile. He's an interesting guy.
What station is he on? For some reason my mind is a blank and the only station coming to mind is 980.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:53 PM
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60. He's on KCUR, 89.3 FM
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:00 AM
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64. Thanks.
I know someone who is thinking about interviewing for 980 so it's the only station in my head right now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:36 PM
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48. This is an easy question!
Cause I'm a native. Here's what I tell folks: ASScroft says MissourAH. So that proves the correct pronunciation is MissourEE. :woohoo:
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