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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:37 AM
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Baby Opossum Found In Mobile Home Toilet
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SAN ANGELO, Texas -- Potty training just became much harder for a West Texas family. A baby opossum was found in the bathroom toilet of Robert and Amy Hamblen's mobile home early Wednesday, when the family was awakened by the sound of splashing water.

Robert Hamblen said he used a toilet brush to coax the animal from the bowl and into a box before releasing it outdoors.

He said he patched a hole in the septic system where he thinks it entered.

Of course, the discovery has hampered the Hamblens' effort to get their daughters -- ages 1 and 2 -- potty trained.

"Having a possum in the bathroom sure hasn't helped," Robert Hamblen said in Thursday's San Angelo Standard-Times.

http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2005/05/25/texas_family_finds_baby_opossum_in_toilet/
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:38 AM
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1. 'Potty possums' can be quite dangerous...
Best to double-flush, or you might get yer nuts gnawed off...:D
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:40 AM
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2. possum riots break out in the middLe east as a resuLt
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:10 AM
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8. damn you, you stole my joke! (NT)
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:40 AM
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3. if it hadnt found that Koran to hang on to it would have dorwn for sure..
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:49 AM
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4.  hampered the Hamblens' effort to get their daughters -- ages 1 and 2
potty trained.

Either the reporter is childless and an idiot, or that is pret'-near child abuse to try to potty train your 1 year old. Most 2 year olds wouldn't be ready either.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:24 AM
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10. It used to be the fashion
When my boys were little, several older people bragged to me about how they potty trained their children by 18 months. My pediatrician said it's very rare, and that it's not the child who is trained, it's the parent. They take the child and pull his pants down and put him on the toilet regularly and call that "potty trained".

I have also seen people who spank their children for having wetting accidents during the "potty training" period. That is certainly abuse.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:36 AM
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13. That's such an over the top exaggeration!
It is not abuse to begin potty training a 1 year old, especially a 1 year old that is close to 2 years old. Every child develops differently. You know nothing of this family to make such accusations. Why does it seem that people on DU throw around that word "abuse" so much? Just because you personally don't like something, or it's something that you personally would choose not to do, does not make it abusive.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:57 AM
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14. I wouldn't call it an exaggeration
Edited on Thu May-26-05 08:58 AM by Wickerman
nor would I call it "such an over the top exaggeration!"

Any child development class I have had and my own experience working with the cognitive development of kids indicates a one year is nowhere near ready. Most two years old are not. Forcing a child into situation they are not cognitively ready to have the awareness to function in only creates stress. Working currently in social services and seeing abuse every day I feel I did not cavalierly throw around the word abuse.

Should you care to calmly discuss this rather than continue on a self-righteous rant like above I'll be happy to compare resources in child-rearing and cognitive development.

For starters, a few non academic sources as they are easiest to google:

http://parenting.ivillage.com/tp/tppotty/0,,3wr3,00.html

Parenting cannot be learned in a vacuum and you are right to ask and wonder about these questions. One year (or sooner) is an average age for walking to begin. It is not considered developmentally sound to attempt potty training at this time for at least two important reasons.

First, your one year old is too young to consistently be aware of, much less control his or her bodily functions. She or he is too busy mastering the voluntary muscles involved in walking to even consider the nuances of controlling involuntary processes. It would be overloading your toddler's system to introduce an additional developmental challenge, especially one that he or she cannot be successful at achieving. This could cause delays in other areas of development that are primed for this time.

Secondly, an expectation to perform (even mildly) on the potty at this period in development could result in feelings of failure, inadequacy or general stress associated with toilet training. Early pressure could thwart the emotional sense of pride that coincides with successful toilet training later. Your child could miss out on the sense of mastery which is such a critical part of this developmental milestone when it occurs at the appropriate time.
--more--
http://parenting.ivillage.com/tp/tppotty/0,,47td,00.html
Using a "developmental" approach to toilet readiness, most children become ready between 24 and 36 months of age. There are three areas of readiness for toileting: physical, cognitive and emotional. Often, children will have one or two, but not all three. It is easiest for children to learn when they are ready in all three areas at once.

http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/parenting_tips/potty_training/start_potty_training.html
A recent article in the journal Pediatrics, Relationship Between Age at Initiation of Toilet Training and Duration of Training: A Prospective Study, provides parents some help. This study found that starting intensive toilet training early, which is defined as asking your child to use the potty more than 3 times a day, resulted in kids who were potty training at a younger age than parents who started later. However, the study also found that the earlier you started, the longer it took. And kids who began intensive training before 27 months didn't necessarily finish potty training before kids who started later.

This study doesn't mean that you should wait until after 27 months to start training, but it does offer some interesting points, including that parents in the study:

* started some form of potty training at about 21 months (took out a potty chair, etc), but didn't start intense training until 29 months (asking their child to use the potty more than 3 times a day)
* finished potty training at an average of 37 months
* took about 5-10 months to complete potty training and this was even longer, about 14 months, for parents who started before their child was 24 months old. In general, the older the child was when they started potty training, the less time it took to complete training.

http://pediatrics.about.com/od/toddlers/a/toddler_tips.htm
4) Potty Training
Some toddlers are ready to begin potty training as early as eighteen months, while others don't begin until they are two years old or older. And while there are many different potty training methods, one thing is clear - starting too early or pushing your child to become potty trained when they aren't ready doesn't work. So develop a plan on how you want to potty train your child and then wait for signs of readiness.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:50 AM
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5. Oh heavens, I live in a mobile home and there is a family
of possums that lives underneath it. I just hope I don't find one in my toilet.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:35 AM
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6. Good for Mr. Hamblen for treating the poor creature humanely. NT
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:09 AM
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7. Newsweek retracts bathroom Possum story
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:12 AM
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9. septic system companies were rioting?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:26 AM
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11. 19 dead, 43 wounded. PETA got in on it too
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:28 AM
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12. Imagine that biting you in the ass!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:12 AM
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15. Someone Musta Had A Helluva Meal
They need to learn to chew better...
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