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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:21 PM
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I think that I made a Republican leave a conferance.
I spent a few days, last week, at a gummint conferance in my field.

On the first night a few of us ended up at a local Irish Pub (God I hate saying that...They AREN'T IRISH!!) and as usual someone brought up Bush and Iraq.

Of course I made my views about the PNAC fuckwits very clear. So two fellow conferance goers tried to team up on me.

All I will say is that I stayed on topic and refused to let them change to subject to vague emotional issues like "We freed the Iraqi People" BS.

They kept insisting that Iraq had WMD's, I insisted that they prove their erroneuos arguments or shut the fuck up.

After a while the two left to go into the bar, we had been outside, so I went back to chatting about less corrosive topics with the others at the table.

Then what happened? They CAME BACK to resume the argument! I said (no shit), "Haven't you had enough?!". So we got into it again and one of my foes finally admitted that the WMD argument was crap and he was probably wrong to support the Invasion.

The other was almost apoplectic as I kept banging away.

Needless to say I saw the one that admitted fault the next morning, but the other didn't show up at any of the seminars or lunches or dinners.

So did I chase the neo-CON away? I sure as shit hope I did.

Intolerant? Me? Yep. I can't stand well educated idiots.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:24 PM
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1. What have you done?
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VeniceBeat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:53 PM
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7. Nice!
...drip, drip, drip...

And you GO, JanMichael!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:24 PM
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2. One by one.
That is the way we win
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:31 PM
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3. That's puzzling
You mean after arguing with you and defending Bush and his war, he finally broke down and admitted it was wrong?

He must have built up a thick internal wall of denial. Maybe you finally gave him an excuse to get honest to himself.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:35 PM
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5. He wasn't as serious as the other one was.
Actually he still said he supported it but he said the following, "I guess that makes me a hypocrite." at least we got that far, eh?
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:32 PM
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4. You're mean and evil....
And I love you for it!
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:37 PM
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6. I try so hard to be nice but, but, they infuriate me!
Thanks for understanding:evilgrin:
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:24 PM
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8. Repugs cannot take--FACTS----
I have yet to have one stand up to me and dispute my FACTS on Reagan-Clinton-Bush II.

They stammer junk like Monica-draft dodger--liar on Clinton.

I ask them "Please tell me one--just one--LIE- Bill Clinton told the american public on his policies. ONE? Please. None. Cannot list one.

I ask then to tell me---"how many were "CONVICTED" of a "FELONY" which was commited while "WORKING FOR" President Clinton.

Then, I hit them with 127 Charged with crimes during Reagan eight.
Ones who went to prison.

Then, I ask if they want a list of 191 LIES by Bush and his comrades.

Then, do you care to CHECK RECORDS ON ECONOMY?

Reagan increased spending by 80%--Debt by 187%-Deficits by 112%. Please compare to Clinton's 28-28-Surplus. MAJOR STUFF.
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Compare GDP growth.

Clinton gain of 64% more than Reagan.That one just ruins them. Not true-not true. Then, I present exact indisputable numbers.
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Then, I ask-"Would you care to compare the Democrats record of creating WEALTH and JOBS versus Republicans?
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From Harding in 1921 to Bush in 2003.Democrats created 75 million to Republicans 36 Million net new jobs. The Per Year average was-Democrats 1,825,200 to Republicans 856,400.
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DOW--gained 52% more under Democrats.
JOBS--gained 90% more under Democrats.
GDP--gained 26.4% more under Democrats

--------------Compare Clinton 8 to Reagan 8.-----------------

GDP--Clinton 64% more
JOBS--Clinton 44.4% more
DOW---Clinton by 500% more. That folks is five times as much.
(Reagan go an increase of 1120 points and Clinton 6660 points)
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Social Value/Virtues per William Benneth charts.Greatest improvement in history under Clinton. Most bad ones went down and good ones went up. how? The direct result of Clinton Policies and his Cabinet's hard work. Not luck. Target policies which were implemented.
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I cannot fanthom why in HECK Democrats do not use these-FACTUAL numbers to attack!!!!!!!!!!!!Hire me to Train them.

SOMEONE HELP ME. HOW DO WE GET THIS HIGHLY IMPORTANT DATA OUT TO SPOKESMEN WHO GET BEATEN BY O'REILLY AND HANNITY, ETC.

They are such a few numbers to memorize.

I AM READY TO THROW UP.
CLARENCE SWINNEY CWSWINNEY@NETZERO.NET
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Frank_Person Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:56 PM
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10. Clarence, check your email
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:37 PM
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9. Well done!
:toast: to Jan Michael
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