Can smoking opium kill you?

[JVS]

Is it like taking being a pothead to the next level or is it dangerous (beyond the normal danger involved in inhaling smoke which is probably never too good for the lungs)

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. It can SO kill you. n/t

[MADem]

2. It is highly addictive

Do not go there, it is heroin in a less refined form.

[JVS]

Coffee is highly addictive, but generally safe

The question is whether opium smoking is an addiction with fatal consequences or just really being zonked out consequences

[Mr.Green93]

19. Is there any around?

[billyskank]

3. Yes, if you smoke enough of it

But I think you'd have plenty of warning before the overdose level was reached. In fact I think you'd fall unconscious first. It's far safer than injecting it; you have no idea when you shoot up how much you're actually dosing yourself with. Too much, and you're in trouble.

[JVS]

5. Yeah, I could see why injecting would be dangerous

but it seems that smoking might be relatively benign

[sam sarrha]

10. Injecting opium would kill you.. it is raw plant sap

[billyskank]

12. Yes, it is, because you can regulate your dose

Of course, you can still end up an addict scumbag....!

[JVS]

16. Sweet

[chickenscratching]

4. from what i konw

excessive opium use causes constipation. so, if you are a constant member of teh opium den club you might get clogged up to the point of death.
but thats really extreme

on edit: it's a nice smoke if you're into ganj

[JVS]

7. You could always get a colostomy and not have to worry about that

[chickenscratching]

13. hee hee true ture

do you enjoy opium? or are you asking because you're interested?

[miss_kitty]

32. Colostomies

extremely hilarious. :eyes:

[miss_kitty]

27. So. You know nothing of colostomies, then?

Constipation is constipation. Whether it's occurring in stock equipment or a in customised model.

[JVS]

34. Actually I'm quite familiar with them

and yes it is true that you can get clogged with them. But one of the big reasons people fight constipation is a desire to prevent colon cancer, which becomes a moot point after a colostomy

[miss_kitty]

38. No. It does not become a 'moot point' after a colostomy.

you still have a colon-or can depending on the site of the colostomy. Like a person with a sigmoid colostomy would retain all of the colon except the rectum. And you can still feel awful and bloated, being constipated, AND having a colostomy.

[LiberallyInclined]

18. I take methadone for chronic pain.

60-70 mgs. per day for the past 6 years- and yes the constipation thing is a drag- what happens is that it slows down your metabolism, and your stool stays in your colon for a longer period of time- and the longer it's in there, the more water that gets absorbed out of it- at least that's how my dr. described it.

sometimes i feel like a rabbit.

[chickenscratching]

21. oh yikes

poor rabbit.
yea, i think it was used a lot for diarrhea symptoms(back in the day), but i guess it does "too good" of a job.

may i ask what you take it for?

[LiberallyInclined]

33. ankylosing spondylitis.

an autoimmune disorder that causes a slow and painful fusion of the spine.

[miss_kitty]

24. actually, it does not take extreme amounts of opiates to

'clog the plumbing' and if you have certain types of GI problems (adhesions, blockages, tendency toward constipation) it's not a good idea. Take it from an ex-Paregoric user whose worst pain memories were brought on by the use of Paregoric, and resulted in an op and a 3 weeks hospital stay. (Paregoric=anhydrous morphine)

BTW, my Paregoric use was prescribed by a doc, I took it very judiciously. If you are committed to trying this, I suggest you drink plenty of H2O...

[JVS]

36. Thanks for the tip

[Aiptasia]

6. yes, it can kill you unlike pot

Opium is the base ingredient in heroin, and smoking too much opium (unless it's lettuce opium) can kill you dead. Just like an overdose of oxycontin or morphine cocktail can kill you dead.

And no, it's not like "taking pot to the next level." I wouldn't recommend that ANYONE start chasing the dragon.

If you smoke too much pot, you just pass out and wake up later. If you smoke too much opium, you can die.

[LiberallyInclined]

8. not very likely...

smoking opium is a far cry from mainlining heroin- but it could probably be considered a half baby-step in that direction.

is real thai-stick even still available?

[Magrittes Pipe]

9. It's a narcotic. Therefore, you can have a fatal overdose.

Of course, in its natural form, it's far less potent than heroin, morphine, and the like. If you smoked too much O, you'd probably pass out before you died.

I wouldn't wanna push myself, though....

[chickenscratching]

17. are you a drug user of anykind, pappa?

[Magrittes Pipe]

20. I smoke like Serge Gainsbourg, and I drink like Dylan Thomas.

I used to partake of the lesser illegals, a little dose here, a lot of herb there. But I got bored of that. Only smoked the gooey stuff once -- didn't do much for me. I do like prescription painkillers, though.

And NyQuil. Sweet, sweet NyQuil....

[chickenscratching]

23. what prescriptions do you enjoy?

do you take the gel pills or the liquid (nyquil)

on edit: wuld you do me the honor of robo-trippnig with me?
:rofl:

[Magrittes Pipe]

25. No.

I suppose I should have said I only ABUSE alcohol and tobacco.

Everything else I only take as needed. Or really, really wanted. But never too much. All things in moderation, grasshopper.

[chickenscratching]

28. thanks for keeping me in check, mastah

if you will, another asinine question:
what brand cigarettes do you smoke?

[Magrittes Pipe]

50. By choice? Gitanes. In keeping with financial considerations?

Kentucky's Best. Out of necessity, as my internet supplier of KY's Best is no longer shipping, Winstons.

[DS1]

11. Don't bother

It'll make you useless

[JVS]

14. Impossible. You can't make someone into something they are already

[billyskank]

15. I'm useless already

So it would make me less than useless.

Hey, maybe I could be your next president?

[bobthedrummer]

22. Yes. Don't make any comparisons to cannabis. Opium is the basis

of the economy of Dyn Corp's narco-state Afghanistan.

[JVS]

30. That is not the point here.

The issue is whether opium is deadly, not whether it's byproducts are dangerous or are used to support evil.

Your denunciation of opium would be like me denouncing apricot pits for containing chemicals which can be processed into cyanide, and thus made into Zyklon-B and used for the extermination of Jews

[bobthedrummer]

43. .

:eyes:

[JVS]

45. and back at you

:eyes:

[LiberallyInclined]

26. wheni was in college, some friends bought some "synthetic opium"...

at least that's what the guy selling it was calling it- it came in amber-looking chunks- they'd smoke it, and get a bit of a buzz. But when i saw it, i knew immediatly what it was, since i had played the string bass in jr. high- it was bow rosin. The guy had bought some cakes of rosin, broken it up, and started selling it as "synthetic opium"- i assume that the "buzz" they were feeling was oxygen deprivation, due to the rosin temporarily coating the inside of the lungs.
there were a few people who were more than a little pissed at the guy, and he decided to leave before the end of the semester(it might have even been before the end of the weekend).

[chickenscratching]

29. holy shit!

that's pretty low.
on edit: kinda like telling newbie pot smokers thatyou only smoke the seeds and the stems

[LiberallyInclined]

37. or telling newbie acid-trippers-

that you never come back down. it's always good for a laugh to see the look on their faces...or maybe it just seems funny because of the acid...i guess it doesn't really matter.

[chickenscratching]

39. is acid even around anymore?

[LiberallyInclined]

41. oh yeah...

i haven't partaken in years, but i know there was a bit of a resurgence a couple years back.

we used to get some killer windowpane fresh from a chem grad student in lawrence KS.

mem-ories....

[hobbit709]

42. When I first did acid

it was still legal. Sandoz Labs liquid LSD-25.

[LiberallyInclined]

44. did you actually get to "drop" it...?

into the eye?

that'd be a trip.

[hobbit709]

46. Actually

we'd dip a hair about a half inch deep the lick the hair. Was good for about 300-350 mikes on average(solid trip)

[hobbit709]

47. Actually

repeated dupe

[hobbit709]

48. Actually

sorry, dupe

[JVS]

35. Wow. You can smoke rosin! Fucking A!

[Swede]

31. Tried it only once.

Opium laced joint. I lived to tell.

[hobbit709]

40. Just smoking real opium

won't kill you. I've never had enough of it around to worry about addiction. Speaking as someone who at one time or another has tried everything in the book and then some, I can think of things that are a lot worse. Recreational drugs drugs are like anything else, if you overdo it it's not good. I've seen too many people substitute one addiction for another, like giving up drugs and finding Jesus, execising/running carried to extremes, or even becoming Republican(I'm not joking, two of my friends were quite liberal pot smokers, then they became fundamentalist Baptists and hard core RW).

[RobinA]

49. Sure

if you drop a match between the sofa cushions and it smolders until you fall into a deep-opium dream sleep and then the couch ignites, turning into a raging inferno from which you just aren't too interested in escaping....

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

51. You can end up like this hippie I saw

Dirty as hell, standing in front of my favorite bar, and asking everyone who came in--old, young, hip, square--if he could use their kitchen to cook down some raw opium.

[patcox2]

52. There is a relationship between delivery method and problems.

Generally, the lower the level of processing (opium vs. heroin, coca leaves vs. crack, old fashioned pot vs. modern "one toke and your gone" stuff) and the less efficient the delivery system (smoking or chewing vs. injecting), the less dangerous a drug is. Chewing coca leaves has never been and never will be the problem that crack is.

Whats unfortunate is that when society makes a drug illegal, it tends to drive traffic towards the highly refined and more dangerous forms. (bigger bang for the bug, higher profit margin for the risk, concentrated form easier to smuggle and conceal, many reasons). Zero tolerance did that with marijuana.

But that doesn't mean smoking opium is good for you. Apparently, if your the kind that loves a nice buzz, you might easily find the buzz produced by opiates so alluring that next thing you know you are living on the streets blowing people for the money for your next fix.