do you use protection?

[sniffa]

i was just going off on a rant about peopLe who don't use protection; fine if you don't care about your own Life/weLL being, but you're endangering huge swaths of the popuLation with your reckLess behavior.

i was raised in a LiberaL utopia (cambridge) where sex ed started earLy and did indeed get more graphic as you aged, but the one thing i took from it (and stiLL cLing to now) is to aLways wear a condom.

i'm amazed at the amount of peopLe i've met (that didn't go through the same system as i) that have free sex, and don't use protection. fucking idiots!! aLL of them!

if you're gonna tag it, bag it.

[BlondieK143]

1. Wrap it before you tap it.

That's the ONLY way to be.

[GOPisEvil]

2. Yes, I wear my seat belt when I am in a car.

Oooooooooohhhh...THAT kind of protection. On those rare occasions when I have sex, yes, protection is used. :)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. Yeah, I'm always amazed too.

Not coincidentally, I was also raised in Massachusetts. To you and I, it's a no brainer - there's no good fucking point in NOT putting on a condom. It isn't worth it. Yet to so many others, they simply don't see the danger in it.

I guess the "People's Republic of Kennedy" really tainted us, huh? :eyes:

[sniffa]

5. i'm tainted

the weird thing is... i'm shocked by others when they don't have the same attitude. i had no idea, that proper education was so hard to find in this country.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

13. Coincidentally, Mass. has the lowest teenage pregnancy and abortion rates

in the US. Do you think it's because sex education was taught in school? :think:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

24. Absolutely not! That's why we need abstinence only education!!

:sarcasm:

[terrya]

4. Great post, sniffa.

Some unfortunate deluded guys in the gay community seem to think that AIDS is over...and it's barebacking time! But AIDS is most definitely NOT over. There's a new upsurge in the number of HIV+ gay men in the past few years...precisely because of foolish, reckless behavior such as you described. I hate seeing gay men becoming sick (and possibly dying) because of guys who think everything is hunky dory and will not use condoms. That attitude is reckless and irresponsible to the extreme.

[sniffa]

6. agreed

i think it's idiotic to not think of your own heaLth, but to endanger so many others is (aLmost?) criminaL.

[BiggJawn]

7. I never use Condoms...

Now, should I just let that statement stand, and watch the Flaming shit-storm develop, Or should I just wait and see how many have me on "ignore", or should I explain it....

Ahh, whatdafuck...

You wouldn't wear a raincoat in the Desert, would you?

If I was the Free-lovin' fella I was 25 years ago, you bet I'd wrap that rascal...

[sniffa]

8. i'd just assume you were married

or as you say, not getting any. :P

[BiggJawn]

14. No, not married, but in a committed relationship...

And menopause SUCKS. All that shit in Cosmo about this being a woman's "Sexy Time"?

Bullshit.
Hot flashes, atrophy, other Bad Stuff. Not everyone can do HRT...

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

9. We only use condoms when I have to take antibiotics.

I'm on the pill and married. I don't think I count.

[Solly Mack]

10. What sniffa said!

Respect yourself. Protect yourself.

[purr]

11. I'm married...

So I dont have a need. IF I ever found out or had the slightest idea that my husband was cheating, you bet I would make him wrap it. I dont see that ever happening but thats a time I would.

If I were to get divorced, you bet if I ever found another man, I would make him put one on.

Too many risks involved.

[Magrittes Pipe]

12. No.

[sniffa]

15. see? that's not nice of you to..

expose beware the beastman to every other partner you've had. :o

[Magrittes Pipe]

16. Better than what that hobo exposed him to.

[tjwmason]

17. This is one take on it - which was more seasonal a few months ago

Turn sound on - and don't open at work unless you're the boss, or your boss has a good sense of humour.

http://www.playingsafely.co.uk/12stisofchristmas/12-STIs.html

[HEyHEY]

18. I can't remember it's been so long

[LynneSin]

19. I have gone through the "no-protection phase" but then again...

..I hit the very tail end of the sexual revolution before AIDS was a problem (I hate to say it, by the time I hit college we started to hear about the 'Gay Disease' but figured we were fine cause we were straight - what did we know??!!). Don't worry, I was on BCP.

HOwever, that was ages ago. I was first tested about 10 years ago and I was clean. Never went back that way again!

[jus_the_facts]

20. s'the reason idiots keep filling the world up with more idiots.....

....fuckin' idiots abound...let's stone 'em into abstinence. :eyes:

[Toby109]

21. I don't want to be insensitive, but

I don't want to be insensitive.

:evilgrin:

[SmokingJacket]

22. I don't think kids are hearing the condom message so much these days...

I think it saved a lot of lives in my generation.

I came of age soon after AIDS arrived, and the idea of going without protection never, ever, ever came up.

It's still the only birth control I use, and has been 100% effective. No side effects, either.

[tjwmason]

23. Is that the source of your name?

I've heard them called many things - smoking jacket is perhaps one of the most appropriate. :evilgrin:

[SmokingJacket]

26. Now that's funny!!!!! nt

[xmas74]

25. Until I got into a long-term relationship many years ago,

yes I did use protection. Now, there is nothing to worry about.

[MissMillie]

27. What's sex?

Well, back when I was having sex, I almost always used protection. I say almost because as you know, I'm a mother--an unwed mother.

These days, I find that an aspirin is useful protection against STDs and very sound birth control. No--I don't injest the aspirin, I hold it between my knees.

[sniffa]

28. kick for you fiLthy sinners

[LiberallyInclined]

29. sex with a condom just isn't sex...

might as well stick it in a plastic blow-up doll.

vasectomies are extremely liberating...:evilgrin:

[uppityperson]

30. Too bad you still need a condom for STD avoidance

Have a relative whose family has had vasectomy and hysterectomy. If they split up or dabbled elsewhere they'd need condoms. BUmmer but so is HIV, other STDs

[VelmaD]

31. My momma is a DU lurker...

and even though I'm 34 years old I'm not sure whether she'd rather NOT know I have sex or KNOW that I ALWAYS use protection when I do. :crazy:

[redqueen]

32. Some STDs are still communicable even when you use a condom.

Who else knew that?

[VelmaD]

33. Pick me pick me!

But a condom is better than nothing. So is getting to know your partner well enough to talk about things like STDs before you have sex. My daddy once told me that if you don't know someone well enough to talk about birth control and STDs you don't know them well enough to have sex with them. Smart guy.

[redqueen]

41. Oh yes... definitely better than nothing!

Still, people should be more aware that there are STILL risks even when using a condom. I don't think many people get that.

Also, most people infected with some of these diseases don't even know it. Now *that* is scary.

[yvr girl]

46. They're not even a good method of birth control

My friend's son Josh is proof of that.

[sniffa]

47. pLease don't spread this faLLacy

i understand that condoms are not %100, but they most certainLy are birth controL.

[redqueen]

52. Yes, no method works 100% of the time, but it's far better than nothing

I used oral BC, and my first daughter is proof that they're not 100% reliable, either.

[yvr girl]

54. Josh is very real boy

They are better than nothing, but I wouldn't trust them for birth control myself. They are more for protection against disease.

[sniffa]

56. i'm not doubting josh

or that you can stiLL get, 'in the famiLy way' whiLe using condoms; but what you said prior, is the same Line the fundies use to push abstinence onLy education. i'd rather have kids use condoms and risk it than not use condoms.

[yvr girl]

57. Maybe our sex ed was different

It was in elementary school, so it was before AIDS but we were told how effective various methods were at preventing pregnancy by percentage.

By the time I got to junior/senior high the STD message was also discussed.

[Reverend_Smitty]

63. I learned that too...

in my Godless comprehensive sex education program, for instance they won't protect you from pubic lice...those little buggers jump! We even had to do a group mini-research project on a form of birth control and present your findings with the rest of the class, ours was on IUDs.

[redqueen]

65. Or human papilloma virus...

I think there are a couple others, but I don't remember for certain.

All I know is no more sex for me!

:scared:

[sniffa]

66. that be one

that be the big one, that comes to mind.

[giant_robot]

34. I vote "most of the time"

My relationship w/ my gf is heading out of the condom phase into another form of birth control. I never minded the condoms, but it's sure nice to get rid of them! :woohoo:

[William Bloode]

35. I am very proud to announce......

After more than 25yrs of sex i have only used one once. One time only and never, ever again. Then again i have never been into casual realationships, hook-ups, or one night stands either.

[VelmaD]

36. You may not be into any of those things...

but you never have a guarantee that your partner isn't. Always be careful.

[sniffa]

38. that's what i don't understand about peopLe

aLL it takes is for one person in the chain to be infected.

[VelmaD]

40. I was a teenager in the mid/late 80s...

and hit college in the early 90s...we were all pretty damn paranoid about catching anything. :scared:

[amazona]

62. what's not to understand?

You can't live your life worrying about whether or not your partner is cheating on you. Life doesn't come with guarantees. The majority of married male partners cheat. A significant number of married female partners cheat. Nonetheless, if you want peace in the home, you can't be telling your spouse to wrap it -- it is an accusation and could be an unfair one.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[sniffa]

64. thanks for pLaying, drink coke, pLay again

if one does not have the respect of their own seLf, they wiLL hopefuLLy have respect for their partner(s) and every other partner they have or wiLL have.

[sniffa]

37. you forgot hookers

[redqueen]

42. .

:spray:

[Left Is Write]

39. Well, no, because I'm married and monogamous.

But if I WERE out there - yeah, you bet.

[Shell Beau]

43. I don't have to, I am married, and we are free of STD's!!

[mark414]

44. one of my female friends

always says that it's amazing how fast a guy will put a condom on if you make it clear that he's not getting any otherwise

who's dumb enough to not wear one? (that is, unless you're married and/or in a monogamous relationship)

[Kazak]

45. What if you're actually trying to have a baby?

I know...amazing concept. :crazy:

[curse10]

48. Ummm.... I don't have to anymore

:-)

The pill is a beautiful thing. And when you've been with the same guy for five years you shouldn't have to worry. I'm hopelessly monogamous. :-)

[yvr girl]

49. I think a lot of people don't use them for everything

You KNOW oral doesn't even count.

[sniffa]

50. but Latex tastes yucky

[tjwmason]

51. Surely that contradicts your argument entirely though

I'm guessing that getting an S.T.I. in one's mouth doesn't taste too nice either.

Oral is, however, a different point for reasons other than the taste of latex.

[cestpaspossible]

53. Can't remember

[miss_kitty]

55. I have cans, and goggles and if I need to, I can get my hands on kevlar

chaps. But I have no protection from DS1, should I want to run my 2 stroke engines in his neighbourhood on a Sunday. :D

[RevolutionaryActs]

58. In my town, it seems like half the girls under 25 have kids

It's sad. It's really sad how insanely stupid they are.


I had a friend, who got pregnant and she I thought would become reasonable. But like two or three years after having her baby boy, she had a "boyfriend"(I use that term really lightly because they were only kind of going out and then I think broke up right after this) and she has unprotected sex. I wanted to smack her and ask her what the fuck was wrong with her. The scary is too, she was about 21 and he, I think, was 28. So he really should have known better then that.

I will never get over how stupid people are. It's astonishing.

[amazona]

59. no and older people often really can't you know

People who are married/committed can't use rubbers because it's about "trust" and no fair pointing out the statistics that show that at least half (and probably way more) are not in the monogamous relationship they think they are. There are also health reasons why some don't wear rubbers, such as depression medication or chronic pain already makes it difficult enough for the man to ejaculate -- if he wears a rubber, it isn't ever going to happen in certain situations. It is good that young people use rubbers, and they have more life ahead of them to lose if they do get ill, but I don't think it is worth being judgemental about older people who don't. The real world just isn't like that. A whore can insist that a john use a rubber or take it elsewhere. A wife can't do that.

P.S. What happened to "no sex threads?" and "the fun's over?"

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[sniffa]

60. that's sad

reaLLy, it is. this thread wasn't necessariLy about the oLder, married coupLes... but as for oLder peopLe having sex, they most certainLy need to protect themseLves just as much.

i hate to think of this, but those oLd foLks' homes are Like orgies some times, and aLL you need is 1 person to infect.

[taught_me_patience]

61. It amazing

how fast I'm out of there if the girl doesn't want or insist that I put on a condom the first time we have sex. I just think about how many other guys she's had unprotected sex with. That being said, however, I don't use a condom all the time with girls that I've been dating a while.