LSU Dean Caught With Child Pornography

[BamaLefty]

Sick bastard!!! :grr:

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/base/news-15/1114754617283480.xml&storylist=louisiana

[Richardo]

1. Note his REAL title is "associate dean of students for judicial affairs"

It's indefensible behavior to collect child porn, and therefore I'm not defending it, but the paper printed a very misleading headline. It implies the actual Dean of Students ("LSU Dean") was the one with the child porn. I'll bet he (or she) is fuming over that. Very sloppy (and careless) editing.

Better to have said "LSU Asst Dean..." or "An LSU Dean..."

[funkybutt]

2. JEEZ!

Is it just me or are there a shitload more child porn cases than usual. Everytime I read about such a case, I think "WTF is wrong with these people??"

[blueknight]

3. ane the majority

that get caught, are re-thugs!

[mongo]

34. US and international authorities have taken over some of the

child porn websites. Go there, download a picture and expect the authorities to come knocking on your door.

Remember Pete Townsend? He got caught up in it.

[Name removed]

4. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[NorthernSpy]

8. but real kids had to be abused...

... in order to make those pictures. The market for those pictures is the reason the abuse occurred.

Adams said all four of Welles' office computers had numerous amounts of child pornography on them. The arrest warrant states "a series of images on the hard drive that depicted prepubescent males engaged in sexual activity with adult males" were recovered.

[Goldmund]

11. Real kids had to be killed so you can drive your car, too.

And you paid for it with your taxes. Of course, this is trivializing the issue, but think about it more generally.

Before you tell me that you have to drive in order to live, I'm sure that you could conserve more than you do. Maybe you personally are a conservation nut (in the best sense of that word), but most of us here aren't. I sure am not. What about shopping at Walmart? Bying Microsoft? Using cocaine or heroin?

If there is a moral equivalence between being a consumer of something and the industry itself, then we all are wicked to the max.

If there isn't, then people who merely LOOK at child porn aren't morally the same as people who make it.

Now, should posessing child porn be illegal? Yeah, I think so, because the industry needs to be suffocated (like many industries do, this one there just happens to be a consensus on). Consequently, this person should be arrested. But not because he's "reprehensible" -- I don't know that. I'm not going to sit here and be outraged about it. He should be arrested because the industry needs to be suffocated and some people have to take the fall. It doesn't personally offend me as evil to look at pictures, if that's all he's ever done.

[redqueen]

5. Yeah but kids keep dressing provocatively.

:sarcasm:

:eyes:

[LizW]

6. I do not understand porn addiction

What could possibly be so gratifying about photographs and videos that it would be worth taking such risks as keeping the stuff on one's work computer?

This is just beyond me. But then, I don't understand the facination with porn, period.

[Xithras]

9. Because you're female.

It's biology...men are sexually aroused by visual stimulation, while women often require physical or mental stimulation to become sexually aroused. Show us a picture of a naked female (or male, if gay), and certain neurons reflexively start firing to build desire and start an erection.

As for keeping it at work, that's a sign of addiction. Male ejaculation causes releases of seratonin and dopamine which cause a pleasurable state not unlike those caused by certain drugs. Some people like that high, and get hooked...doing it as often as possible. If you're at work, stressed, and have some guranteed privacy, it can be hard to fight that urge for a "fix".

[Goldmund]

12. Really?

I've known lots of females who were really into porn.

[LSU_Subversive]

13. tell me you're kidding

i am tired of being told that men are unique in their response to visually presented sexual stimuli. many women, including myself, become very aroused by visual stimulation.

yes, sometimes we require only physical or mental stimulation, but i'd bet you could accurately say the same about men as well.

if you show women pics of a naked male, or female for that matter, many of our "certain neurons" will reflexively start firing to build desire or start an erection. i don't want to be too graphic in the details here, but i'm sure you can imagine what i'm talking about.

[NorthernSpy]

16. well, I think that Xithras is probably right

The women I've known who claimed to be into porn gave the distinct impression of trying hard to be shocking -- "transgressive". It seemed that they were fulfilling an emotional need to elicit a reaction from others, rather than a personal need for sexual stimulus.

[Goldmund]

17. Yeah -- and can you believe when they actually want to...

...wear THE PANTS in a relationship??

[NorthernSpy]

19. not sure I follow...

... what you're saying.

What has "wear(ing) the pants in a relationship" got to do with all the self-conscious 'transgression' that some people are wont to display?

[Goldmund]

27. Dude(tte)...

you were replying to a person who was describing her OWN reaction to something basically calling her a liar because it doesn't fit into some medieval notion of yours of what women are actually like.

[LSU_Subversive]

21. now, please tell me you're kidding.

your stated view of women who enjoy porn:
"It seemed that they were fulfilling an emotional need to elicit a reaction from others, rather than a personal need for sexual stimulus."

either you're an under-educated male or someone who's received too much psychoanalysis. maybe both?

[NorthernSpy]

23. wrong, wrong, and wrong again

either you're an under-educated male or someone who's received too much psychoanalysis. maybe both?

I'm not male, not under-educated, and not the recipient of psychoanalysis of any kind.

My observation is that men and women are very different in their sexual behavior, and that denying this is naive in the extreme.

[LSU_Subversive]

24. your reasoning is faulty. lack of clarity of speech and reliance on

anecdotal evidence is a poor way to make your point.

by stating that women also become aroused in response to visual stimuli, i did not imply that we have no differences in our responses. we in fact do.

and, yes, women often require more than simply visual stimuli to become sexually aroused. "often" is the key word, not "always."

my initial response was to Xithras's broad generalization that we cannot understand porn addiction because we're female and our biology is different.

your response was as follows: "The women I've known who claimed to be into porn gave the distinct impression of trying hard to be shocking -- "transgressive". It seemed that they were fulfilling an emotional need to elicit a reaction from others, rather than a personal need for sexual stimulus."

while your point may be true for many women, you discount others to whom your point does not apply. this is another broad generalization.

ultimately i suspect that we agree more not.

[NorthernSpy]

26. in other words, I am skeptical about what you say re women and porn...

... so I'm a bad writer suffering from a thought disorder. :eyes:

your reasoning is faulty. lack of clarity of speech and reliance on anecdotal evidence is a poor way to make your point.

Anecdotes?

The thing is, I haven't told any anecdotes. I've made general observations.

Similarly, you'll just have to point out examples of my "unclarity of speech" and "faulty" reasoning. Like I said, I've made general observations, and I think that what I've said is pretty easy to understand.

[mongo]

36. My observation

My observation is that men and women are very different in their sexual behavior, and that denying this is naive in the extreme.

In my experience, HUMAN BEINGS are very different in their sexual behavior. You can't lump all men or women together with some men are visual, women emotional crap. It just doesn't hold water.

[mongo]

35. I don't think so.

I get a lot of couples who will come in to pick up a movie together.

You can't even judge taste. Some women prefer something with a plot, some like the straight sex tapes. Some men prefer a movie with a plot to the wall to wall sex.

[Xithras]

22. Nope, there's a bit of a difference.

In my personal experience anyway. My wife is into porn as well, but from what we've seen from each other and talking to friends, there's a difference.

When women look at porn, they tend to start building a fantasy in their heads. They imagine that they're involved in the action somehow and that fantasy tends to be what drives their arousal. The visual stimulation causes mental stimulation (and often physical stimulation through masturbation), which leads to full sexual arousal.

Guys don't need the mental stimulation...we can go from looking at the picture to fully aroused without fantasizing, masturbating, or anything else to "help" us along. It's like there's a "Horny" switch in our heads that can be flipped on by the slightest visual trigger.

I there's plenty of anecdotal evidence that I could cite, but I'd push this thread way over the line to "sex thread" status if I did so. As it is I'm probably straddling it with this post.

[mongo]

37. I must have been away the day they were giving out "horny switches"

Because I look at porn boxes all day and don't get aroused. I have to fantasize. And I'm a man. Hell, half the time when watching porn with my wife we start laughing instead of becoming aroused.

[Skittles]

30. I am sick of it too

more proof men have no idea about women

[LSU_Subversive]

31. thank you.

it's good to know that i'm not the only one out here who thinks that it is possible for women to enjoy plain-old porn without trying to be "shocking."

[Goldmund]

32. Woah, fast track to sexism

She was responding to a woman, by the way.

[amazona]

28. I wonder if some of it is planted

I find it hard to believe that all these guys are really interested in this material. I know of a case in Orleans Parish where the man in question was actually filming under-age girls for his website and having sex with them, yet he was not charged. I do not know why some people are allowed to "walk" and yet others are charged just for having pictures that, let's face it, anyone could leave on our printers or computers? Didn't they have a case in England last year where it was proven that someone else had broken into the home computer and was using it without the owner's knowledge to host the child porn? Would real child pornographers put it on their own computer or someone else's computer? How would you defend yourself?

I guess what I'm saying is, I'll wait for more evidence.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[Debi]

7. Matcom works at LSU

:shrug:

[yellowcanine]

10. If it is a university there is a dean for each college. So it is at the

least, misleading.

[Maddy McCall]

18. Yes, but there is a hierarchical system in place, too.

The Dean of Student Affairs, the Dean of Instruction, and so forth are employed under the president.

I suppose that Welles was the man who heard appeals when students were kicked out of class, given bad grades, etc.

[LSU_Subversive]

14. leave it to lsu.

makes me proud.

i'm sure many won't find it hard to believe, but lsu is a very conservative campus. figures.

[Maddy McCall]

15. I do find that amazing.

Many of the people from LSU with whom I've worked have been quite liberal.

I guess it has more to do with specific departments than the whole university system.

[LSU_Subversive]

20. you're absolutely right. many are quite liberal.

at the faculty/grad student level, the range of conservative to progressiveness does seem to vary according to department. the schools of law and the school of coast and environment provide a good illustration. in most departments it also varies according to specialty.

however, the undergraduates are predominantly -but not entirely- conservative. a brief sampling of the student papers will easily provide demonstration.

http://www.tigerweekly.com /

http://www.lsureveille.com /

and for the truly brave, here are some excerpts from a very popular reveille edition. please keep in mind that the reveille is considered one of our more progressive papers. sad, but true.

http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/01/...

[imenja]

39. political affiliation has nothing to do with pedophilia

[MrScorpio]

25. Burn the fucker

To a CRISP

[margaritamama]

29. Disgusting

[petronius]

33. The article mentions the guy from 2003

but there was also an LSU police officer charged with child porn possession back in 2002. This is the only mention I could find of it; I don't recall how it turned out...

[imenja]

38. a local university had a prof who imported little boys

from Latin America for the purpose of sexually assaulting them. Thank goodness the man is in prison. As of a few years ago he was still listed as an employee of the university. A colleague told me the university lawyers were so stellar, they couldn't figure out how to fire a tenured faculty member with a felony conviction who was in the state pen.