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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:34 PM
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The two best acting jobs as sociopaths, hands down!







Both in great movies as well. I need to get Cuckoo's Nest on DVD.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:35 PM
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1. Problem is, Angelina's probably a sociopath for real.
Ever read interviews of hers? :rotatesindexfingerclockwisearoundsideofhead:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:37 PM
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2. I think she is a little weird, but she is also a great humanitarian
I was pretty impressed with her work for the UN. The book, although simply written, is engaging.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:39 PM
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6. I Love Angelina, she is just wonderful.
However I do think that Ed Norton in Primal Fear does a great job of being a psycho.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:11 PM
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16. Yes he was awesome
I read the book before it was a movie, and I always wondered how they were going to pull it off. Well, Norton did it, and was awesome. But then he's all around awesome.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:38 PM
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5. ayup
And she is raising a child. Sigh.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:37 PM
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3. I'd go Brad Pitt in "12 Monkeys" over Angelina.
Just sayin'.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:34 AM
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36. Are you sure you mean 12 Monkeys?
He played a borderline schizophrenic in that one; manic, obsessive-compulsive, a terrific performance, yes, but not really an evil character at all...
Just sayin'...
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:38 PM
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4. Deniro in "Taxi Driver"
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:42 PM
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9. Christian Bale in American Psycho
:popcorn:
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:29 PM
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25. That was psychotic not sociopathic
He was living in a fantasy world. A sociopath lives in our world but doesn't recognise social structures concerning right or wrong behaviour.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:52 PM
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11. That's what I'm sayin'.
DeNiro was freaking scary in that one.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:39 PM
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7. I was going to nominate George W. Bush and Dick Cheney,
but then I saw the word "acting".
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:42 PM
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10. Perhaps I should have elaborated some
Sociopathic characters who despite major character flaws, the audience relates with them.

:)
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:54 PM
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12. Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter
Love him.

The third movie, they made Lecter more bestial, to try and offset the hero status he had developed. Read this somewhere, that the writer (agghh can't remember his name) was not happy about it and wanted to make sure people were NOT glamourizing him.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:13 PM
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17. Thomas Harris was the writer
And the book Hannibal was way better than the movie much more of the "oh oh oh that's gross, uggh I can't believe I'm reading this."
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:54 PM
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29. Hopkins did do a great job in that
Maybe I should have gone further to say "best role of a sociopath in the loony bin"!

:)
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:13 PM
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31. That would pretty much rule out
Harvey Keitel in Bad Lieutenant. He was just a total shit.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:40 PM
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8. I vote Reagan in the Bonzo Movies
RL
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:03 PM
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13. Wolfowitz, and Bolton
Oh that's right. They were acting to COVER UP their psychopathy. Which brings to mind a question. Is it harder to convincingly dress a wolf in sheep's clothing than to dress convincingly a sheep in wolf's clothing?

Seem's like Wolfie's got the World Bank people eating up his act that he only wants the chairman position to help the poor and hungry in Africa! That had to be some world-class acting!

Gyre
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:04 PM
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14. Sociopaths in classic films


That's Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter, although his performance in the original Cape Fear would have qualified, too.



That's Orson Welles as Harry Lime in The Third Man.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:21 PM
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20. Harry Lime was the ultimate sociopath
Tell me. Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you twenty thousand pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you calculate how many dots you could afford to spare? Free of income tax, old man. Free of income tax - the only way you can save money nowadays.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:53 PM
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34. Night of the Hunter is the first one I thought of
actually. Ooo that was scary. I remember being home with a cold or something as a kid and it was on TV. What a great sick day! He did the slimy sweet-talking beast perfectly!
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:09 PM
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15. In Cold Blood
In Cold Blood

Two sociopaths for the price of one. And who should be playing the part of Perry Smith but Robert Blake? Imagine the odds.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:15 PM
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18. really? I haven't seen that in ages
I have a 1st edition copy of the book and saw the movie before, but I did not know Blake was in it.

That is uber-creepy :hide:
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:18 PM
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19. the character named Ganz in "48 Hour" was fine too.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:21 PM
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21. Joesph Cotton as Uncle Charlie in Hitchcock's Shadow of a Doubt
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 10:22 PM by Zuni




Teresa Wright is so beautiful as the heroine in that movie as well :loveya:...my all time favorite Hitchcock film
sadly she died in March of this year
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:26 PM
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22. I was just about to post that
I was reminded by the post about The Third Man. This is part of Cotten's creepy speech to Wright:
Do you know the world is a foul sty? Do you know, if you rip off the fronts of houses, you'd find swine? The world's a hell. What does it matter what happens in it? Wake up, Charlie. Use your wits. Learn something.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:32 PM
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26. Classic film villain
he played the part so well, so subtly. I loved the interplay between Cotton and Wright.

BTW--Did you know that it was Hitchcock's personal favorite of his films?
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:38 PM
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28. No I didn't. It's certainly one of his best
I find it creepier than Psycho even cuz at least Norman Bates had a moral compass, albeit a wacky one. The Merry Widow killer was just pure greed and cynicism.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:26 PM
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23. Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects. Christina Ricci in The Opposite of Sex
So many to choose from....
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:27 PM
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24. Dennis Hopper, "Blue Velvet."
Chills.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:38 PM
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33. Ah, I think he was more a psychopath than sociopath
A sociopath is usually charming and able to get along well with people -- they just utterly lack any empathy whatsoever, and their behavior tends to be rules-based. They do what they want, but recognize there are limits to what they can get away with.

The psychopath is just completely whacked -- and that's Hopper's character to a T. ;)
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:59 AM
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35. You're right about that.
But it seems like splitting hairs. Both are dangerous. It just takes longer to realize the danger from sociopath. The current political climate is a great example.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:46 AM
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38. You are correct, sir! Frank Booth is da man!
Hopper was my first choice, but you beat me to it...
He's just so fuckin' SUAVE, man...


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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:35 PM
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27. Raymond Lemorne on the original movie The Vanishing
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 10:37 PM by Az
Played by Bernard-Pierre Donnadieu he was the perfect sociopath. You really can't tell from day to day exposure when someone is a sociopath. They are usually quite good at blending in. Unless something causes them to go down a particular path you probably won't notice them.

Want to see a sociopath? Watch the original movie not the American remake. Of course in the American remake the sociopath is the guy vibrating in the corner and looking around suspiciosly.

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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:34 PM
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32. Most. Frightening. Movie. Ever.
He was my first thought, too.

That was the whole 'meat' of the movie; that he was a completely "normal" guy. The writer even took the time to show him as a caring father, and a good samaritan when he saved that little girl from drowning.

It's kind of the same idea that makes American Psycho's Bateman so scary; he's walking among us, completely undetected.

That's why Hannibal Lechter is so not scary... as soon as you give these guys superhuman abilities (like being able to surgically castrate a passing pickpocket in half a second throgh his clothes), or have them behave like Snydley Whiplash on a mugging bender, they lose their 'realness'.

That movie scared the pants off me!!

Love the Criterion box artwork, too... I haven't seen that before.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:56 PM
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30. What about this guy?
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:42 AM
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37. Laurence Olivier as the old Nazi commandant/ex-dentist in Marathon Man!
"Is it safe? Is it... safe?"
Poor Dustin Hoffman!
Yeah, that Laurence Olivier... a fine, fine actor, but only a so-so dentist.

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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 06:01 AM
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39. What about Gary Oldman in Leon?
I thought he was magnificent......INSANE but magnificent.

Or Christopher Walkern in True Romance, although that's more just evil criminal than sociopath I suppose.
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