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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 11:15 AM
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Just got a glimpse of a smiling Tony Blair and Bushie on the tv
and I swear, I cringed.

yes, this is slightly political, but gosh, I cringed. What a smarmy, shallow, self-serving cheesy DICK!!! :evilfrown:

Sorry, just venting.....
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Terazzo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 11:35 AM
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1. We are enormously proud of Blair
back in the UK. He is a man of utter principle: unwavering progressive ideas and a firm vision of national security. Whether on not you agree with Blair's stand on the war, you surely realise he is a man of principle who has risked an enormous amount politically, particularly within his own party.
I abounded with pride upon seeing his speech on the television. Adhering to your beliefs in the face of stout criticism is what true leadership is all about. God bless Tony Blair!
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 11:39 AM
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2. In the wise words of Obi-Wan Kenobi...
"Who is more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 11:47 AM
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3. Britain doesn't seem to like him..
Man of principle? Yeah, right. :eyes:

What beliefs? What principles? This man sent people to die so he could get a little publicity! Self-serving weasel.
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Terazzo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 11:59 AM
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4. Of course, you're right....
every politician would risk his political future for ' a little publicity'. I find it quite offense that you would criticise a man who has, all his career, stood for the disadvantaged by saying he 'sent people to die' for self-service reasons. If you disagree with the war, let that be your sole objection. But do not denigrade Blair's character, for he is a giant among men. I wish that the evidently vast quantity of smaller men would aspire to the character of Mr. Blair.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 12:03 PM
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5. Blair ain't nuthin' but shit.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 12:25 PM
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7. Well, I'm from Canada...
and unlike in the United States and Britain, we are still "allowed" to see through leaders and make "offensive" comments about them. :eyes:

Call me crazy, but I hate it when innocent people have to die for no reason at all, and I don't care for liars like Blair.
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Terazzo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 12:46 PM
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8. That's such a ridiculous comment;
We are 'allowed' to see through people too. Do you think we have secret police who don't permit that in the GB? You are free to disagree; just please try not be silly about it.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:29 PM
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13. Sarcasm?
Hmmm.

Please try not to be personally insulting.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:40 PM
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14. never mind.....
Edited on Sat Jul-19-03 01:41 PM by Darth_Kitten
I don't need to respond to people who cannot handle another's opinion.
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Terazzo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 02:00 PM
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17. You implied
Canadians have some sort of freedom that Brits and Americans do not about 'seeing through people'. This was condescending. So please don't whine about intolerance of opinions when you make statements like that in response to my praise of Tony Blair's courage. I have the right to that opinion. If you cannot handle it, you are free not to respond. Thanks.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 02:23 PM
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18. Whatever.
Edited on Sat Jul-19-03 02:33 PM by Darth_Kitten
I'm silly, ridiculous, and a whiner to boot. :)
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 03:37 PM
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19. Replace "Blair" with "Bush" and it's the same propaganda
And if all sorts of smaller men would aspire to act like Blair's character, we'd really be a screwed up civilization.

Here in America, people seem to aspire to be like Bush, given his incredible popularity rating. :eyes:

I also thought the word, in the UK, was spelled "offence"...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 08:51 PM
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22. Blair is nothing but a BUSH WHORE
he's a DISGRACE.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 12:04 PM
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6. Actually, I hate to admit it
But I was impressed by Blair's eloquence and force of conviction. Unlike the shrub who comes across as so hollow and hypocritical, you don't really believe for an instant that he himself believes what he's saying, Blair compels the impression that, misguided though his views are, at least he sincerely believes them, or at least is a good enough actor to conceal his hypocrisy. Also unlike the shrub, Blair actually speaks English, and so doesn't come across sounding like the complete idiot the shrub does, whose opinions can be easily dismissed as the products of an intelligence quotient far below that of broccoli. In contrast, Blair sounded, well, presidential, which is unfortunate given how incredibly unsavory much of what he had to say was. I was particularly appalled by the ease with which he advocated suppression of dissenting voices within a democracy for the sake of achieving a unified front against terrorism. I thought it was also highly convenient that, in the context of discussing history's verdict of his actions, he left out the judgement history will make of those who have done so much damage to the UN and the system of international law and justice. Thoughtful of him to have left that bit out, don't you think?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 12:50 PM
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9. Terazzo you came to the wrongplace to spew this bile.

"He is a man of utter principle" & what principle might that be ?

Lie & keep Lying until you are so deep in to the Lie that you see
no way out.

Or could it be sucking up to the worst R-esident in all of American history. Willingly grabbing your ankles while he reaches for the
k-y.

"He is a man of utter principle" This is a complete FUCKING LIE

The man is a Maggot feasting on the corps of a once great nation &
a once great political party.

When you pull your head out of his ass long enough to see the light of day you know where we can be reached to offer your apology.

"you surely realize he is a man of principle " NO WE DON'T he is
a Lying Weasel of a politician like so many today.

Try some independent thought instead of this Utter Shit

"back in the UK. He is a man of utter principle: unwavering progressive ideas and a firm vision of national security. Whether on not you agree with Blair's stand on the war, you surely realise he is a man of principle who has risked an enormous amount politically, particularly within his own party.
I abounded with pride upon seeing his speech on the television. Adhering to your beliefs in the face of stout criticism is what true leadership is all about. God bless Tony Blair!"

I mean really are you fucking serious?

To Laugh or Cry which is it to be.

THE MAN IS A MAGGOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Terazzo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:19 PM
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11. You are an expert on Blair's past record, I trust?
If so, you are aware of his tremendous liberal record and ongoing professional relationship with staunchest ally, Bill Clinton, who defends Tony Blair to this day. I honestly do not appreciate your venom, nor do I respect the opinion of one who expresses such hatred about a truly honourable man.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 04:06 PM
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20. I'm aware
That most Labour party members I know in the UK either have or are planning to leave the party until Blair is ejected.

If you truly want to understand our venom, understand this. Blair has, by his alliance with Bush*, given Bush* the veneer of legitimacy that he needs on the world stage. If it weren't for Blair's support of the illegal invasion of Iraq, Bush* may well have not gotten the domestic support. Without Blair, Bush* would have had no allies.

Regardless of his earlier actions, Blair has aided a criminal act of historic proportions, the illegal invasion of Iraq. His late attempts to justify that action by having the international community approve his policy of preemptive strikes against anyone we don't like is as sickening as anything a British PM has done for at least the past century.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:15 PM
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10. Blair doesn't strike as such an idiot as Bush
I still don't really like him that much, or agree with any of his foreign policy, but he seems much more articulate than Bush when he speaks.

Or is that just me?
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bandy Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:28 PM
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12. He's articulate alright.
Don't be fooled by that British charm. He & * are physco twins. Bad enough with just one but put the two together and you have a world of terror.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:45 PM
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15. He's Bush's opposite at any rate
can at lest string a suitable sounding sentence together, at any rate.

I mean, "bring em on?" Well, it's not quite "ask not what your country can do for you", but it's a start!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 01:48 PM
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16. Buddy, are YOU in the wrong place at the wrong time!
Edited on Sat Jul-19-03 01:48 PM by Prisoner_Number_Six
...and whatever the hell it is you're smoking to keep your eyes so crossed and unfocussed, please pass it around! The rest of us poor slobs are WAY too mired in reality...
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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 05:34 PM
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21. I don’t consider lying to one’s country an admirable trait.
Lying and sending one’s military to face life threatening danger does need investigation.
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