Recommend me a great late 70's/early 80's post-punk band.

[leftist_rebel1569]

I love Joy Division, The Fall, The Cure, Gang of Four, etc. Given the fact I'm 17, I didn't live through that time so my knowledge of the old school greats is (somewhat) limited. However, in the name of getting some sort of quality music discussion around here, I want people to recommend me similar bands to them that had their peaks in the dates I mentioned.

If you do that, I'll...uh, recommend you a good indie band I already like. So, it's a win-win situation if you feel like not being lazy and exercising those fingers of yours in both a futile attempt to exercise and sway my taste in music.

Okay, start recommending. Now.

[robertarctor]

1. Ever heard Killing Joke?

eom

[lenidog]

4. I still have a Killing Joke t-shirt that I wear that is in excellent

condition.

[leftist_rebel1569]

18. I've heard OF them

and I have been meaning to check them out for a while.

Have you ever heard of Nation Of Ulysses? They're on Dischord records, which also produced Minor Threat and Fugazi.

[Nevernose]

2. POST punk?

What the fuck's the point? Either you're listening to punk or you're not, right? You gotta PROBLEM with Reagan Youth?

But if you could recommend a good indie band, I'd appreciate it.

[leftist_rebel1569]

20. Reagan Youth...

hmmm...they sound both political and punk-ish enough for me to check out.

I'll recommend you two good indie bands, since you asked. First, Built To Spill - pretty good straighforward, guitar-driven indie rock. "Keep It Like A Secret" is their best album, in my opinion...there's not a single bad song there. Also, Godspeed You! Black Emperor - they're almost entirely instrumental, and the entire band is made up of 11 people. If you like really long, pensive instrumental music, then you really can't go wrong with them.

[Nevernose]

40. Short, pure, 80s punk

For pure sounds I like "Jesus Was a Communist," though they have other lyrically better songs, like "New Aryans:"

Be proud that you're a white amerikan
Blond hair, bule eyes - a fine new aryan?
Supremacy's the white man's burden?

A final solution for all new aryans...
Death to the nazis and the ku klux klan!
Anarchy in the fatherland!

Anarchy for all new aryans
No master race is gonna rule my land!

New order?
No order!
Disorder! ...Now!


and the title track, "Regan Youth:"

You are the sons of Reagan ...Heil!
You're gonna kill some pagans ...Heil!
The Right's your sacred mission
You'll start an inquisition
You're gonna purge the heathen kind?

You are Reagan Youth! ...Heil! Heil! Heil!
Reagan Youth ...Seig Heil!

You are the sons of Reagan ...Heil!
You are the godforsaken ...Heil!
The right is your religion
You watch television
It programs your programmed minds

You are the sons of Reagan ...Heil!
You are the unawakened ...Heil!
You wnat another war
Forward to El Salvador!
Die to kill a communist?

You are Reagan Youth! ...Heil! Heil! Heil!
Reagan Youth! ...Seig Heil!

Don't be fooled!

Okay, not much in the way of lyrics, but you gotta give 'em credit for style and intent. And I don't think it's an exagerration to say that they are one of the biggest punk bands to come out of the 80s, influencing everyone after.

[enigmatic]

3. The Sound

Great lost band of the early 80's; "From The Lion's Mouth" is a classic album..

http://www.brittleheaven.com/index.php?section=11&PHPSESSID=bddf525cf1ef373aa378b13396341c8d

[leftist_rebel1569]

22. I'll get around to checking that out

Thanks :)

[leftofthedial]

5. try early Talking Heads

first couple of records

[leftofthedial]

6. also early Joe Jackson

[lenidog]

8. If you are going with the Talking Heads you can also

consider the first two Police albums

[leftist_rebel1569]

25. A band I forgot to mention

I get the chorus to "Psycho Killer" stuck in my head a lot.

Have you ever heard of Radio 4? It's pretty dancable indie rock. They're opening for Gang Of Four on their re-union tour (which I can't see since the show here in MPLS is 18+ :()

[leftofthedial]

49. I will have to check them out

[lenidog]

7. I hope that you have at least gotten yourself well schooled in the

classics like the Clash

[leftist_rebel1569]

26. lolzers

Yes. I have.

[enigmatic]

9. Add "Heaven Up Here" era Echo And the Bunnymen...

and The Only Ones (Peter Parett), too...

[leftist_rebel1569]

30. Now that you mention it,

I just downloaded a re-issue of "Heaven Up Here" not too long ago, but I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet.

Have you ever heard of Neutral Milk Hotel? They're "fuzz-folk" as their lead singer describes it, but it's one of my all-time favorite bands.

[enigmatic]

33. Yep!

I'm getting a link to them on my radio statin links page...

I lived in Athens, GA for a few years; I love that town..

[leftist_rebel1569]

36. Oh man

So, I take it you've also heard of The Olivia Tremor Control?

[enigmatic]

39. Oh yeah...

Elf Power, too; great bands, and I've always got something by them in the rotation of my overnight show..

[leftist_rebel1569]

52. Elf Power?

I take it they're another Elephant 6 band that I really should get around to checking out, right?

[enigmatic]

59. You've got it, my friend:)

Great band; here's their webby:

http://www.elfpower.com/

[enigmatic]

10. The Fall, too...

"Lve At the Witch Trials" and "After The Gramme" are both great records..

[leftist_rebel1569]

34. Great records

I first got into The Fall after they released their last LP (The Real New Fall LP) and I fell in love with it. Then, I got the "50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong" compilation, which is great if you've never heard any of The Fall's earlier stuff.

I have to say that The Wonderful and Frightening World of The Fall is my favorite of the records, though.

[tuvor]

11. I never understood the term "post punk". [edited for some recommendations]

So many great bands evolved out of the DIY ethic of punk, but you wouldn't necessarily know it. Simple Minds started out as Johnny and the Self Abusers, some of Big Country had its start in the Skids, for example, and Gary Numan had his Tubeway Army....

Are you partial to guitars? Are electronics out of the question?

On Edit: Here are a few that I can think of. My definition of post-punk is pretty broad, I guess... Check Amazon for reviews, clips, etc.

The Alarm: The Stand
Altered Images: Happy Birthday, Pinky Blue
Siouxsie and the Banshees: Hyena
Bauhaus: Oh, hell, any of them.
Jesus and Mary Chain: Psychocandy
Simple Minds: Sons and Fascination and New Gold Dream
Virgin Prunes: If I Die, I Die
Shriekback: Oil and Gold, and Big Night Music
Ultravox: Vienna, Lament
XTC: Drums and Wires

[leftist_rebel1569]

50. more electronics is better

I'm a huge synthesizer freak, half the bands I listen to use them in one way or another.

Out of all of those, I've heard of a few that I don't already listen to. Jesus & Mary Chain in particular...I'll get around to listening to them soon.

For a random band recommendation, have you heard The Arcade Fire? They put out an album last year that went through a shitstorm of hype from the indie community, but in my opinion the hype was deserved. Anything by them is worth listening to.

[tuvor]

56. Arcade Fire, I'm still not sure on.

They were on the cover of the Canadian edition of Time magazine recently. I like the single Rebellion (Lies), but the whole album's not doing it for me, at least not yet. I hear that David Byrne likes them, but when the guy in AF shouts "If you want something/Don't ask for nothing" just like David Byrne, I think I see why Byrne's partial to the band.

I shouldn't complain too much. At least they seem to be trying something different.

Hmm. Get Talking Heads' Remain in Light. I had to listen to it about 20 times before I started really enjoying it when I was about 17, but it was definitely worth it.

[enigmatic]

12. God, how can I forget Wire???

"Pink Flag" and "154" are both classics..

[leftist_rebel1569]

51. Wire's been on my list of bands to check out

and has been for a while now. Thanks for the reminder, though!

[psychopomp]

13. Some starting points

The Stranglers - Ratticus Norvegicus
Fugazi - 13 Songs
Bad Brains - I Against I ...unless you are looking for something hardcore then the ROIR Sessions album or Rock for Light

[Arugula Latte]

48. I love that Stranglers song "Golden Brown"

That is just mesmerizing.

[driver8]

62. I love that song!!

"Golden Brown" is an amazing song. When I was a college dj, I used to play that song a lot.

[enigmatic]

14. And the greatest band to ever come out of my hometown:

Pere Ubu; "The Modern Dance" and "Dub Housing" will get you started..

[tuvor]

21. No way, man, that was Devo.

Booji Boy told me so.

:evilgrin:

[enigmatic]

31. HA!

Devo was from Akron(Kent, really); my hometown band is vindicated!;)

[leftist_rebel1569]

57. Pere Ubu, eh?

I keep seeing a bunch of familiar bands that I've never heard in this thread. I shall add them to my increasingly large list of bands to check out.

[Tom Kitten]

15. Mission of Burma?

They recently reunited and put out a killer cd last year...

Otherwise, the Wipers (look for the 3cd rerelease of their first three lps...it's reasonably priced and GREAT), Wire, the Clean, the Swell Maps, Radio Birdman, a few just off the top of my head...

[enigmatic]

16. I've got "Acadamy Fight Song" in the rotation...

of my overnight show; I just played it 20 minutes ago! Great band...

[leftist_rebel1569]

54. Oh man

I've been meaning to check out Mission of Burma for ages now. Where would be a good place to start?

Also, for a good indie band, have you ever heard The Olivia Tremor Control? They recently re-united as well. Also, another band that you could check out is Pinback. They're an indie pop album and they put out one of the best records of last year.

[Tom Kitten]

61. Well get the latest one ...

On Off On, on Matador Records....I am very impressed with it!

Earlier stuff, well they released one lp, Vs, that is classic...plus an ep, I can't recall the title but it has "That's When I Reached For My Revolver" and "This is Not a Photograph" on it, both A+ songs...the posthumous live lp, "The Horrible Truth About Burma" , is good too but maybe a little too dissonate for the neophyte listener, although they do a great cover version of Pere Ubu's "Heart of Darkness"...Hope this helps!

I'll be sure to check out your recommendations, oh by the way I'm going to see the Gang of Four next week!

[leftist_rebel1569]

76. Lucky you

I want to see Gang Of Four, but the show is 18+ and I'll be almost 10 months away from being old enough to go :(

[d_b]

17. Bauhaus

is one of the classic greats.

[norml]

19. XTC

http://www.xtcidearecords.co.uk/

[driver8]

64. XTC is one of my all time favorite bands...

...also very, very under rated.

These guys write incredible songs and their playing is amazing. You will not be disappointed with XTC.

I would check out "Black Sea" or "Drums and Wires" for earlier stuff. My favorite XTC album is English Settlement.

[norml]

23. Patti Smith

http://www.pattismith.net/

[Nevernose]

29. Oh wow... Good call

Rock 'n Roll Nigger, Horses, what great songs, I'd forgotten all about Patti Smith...

[enigmatic]

35. "Piss Factory"

What a great song...

[enigmatic]

37. And the great post-punk guitar band: Television

Get "The Blow Up" for guitar nirvana..

[Nevernose]

42. Television are considered just-plain-punk

Believe it or not, I actually took a class in this (yeah, you can get a degree in anything these days). Television, The Ramones, and Blondie are consdidered the progenitors of punk, at least by the people who write the textbooks (credit is also, thankfully, given to The Stooges, who came out of Detroit instead of New York/CBGB's and are therefor not considered to be the fathers of punk so much as the fathers of stage-diving and heroin abuse).

And please, don't ask how many years I've been working on this bachelor's degree, okay?

[enigmatic]

45. To me they have always been on the line...

The original "Little Johnny Jewel" single was a bunch of guys trying to play Ornette Coleman-styled punk music; by the time "Marquee Moon" came out both Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd had become such great guitar players that they far outstripped the rest of the CBGB's crowd and became an true guitar band. One of my favorites...

Hell; Iggy, MC5, VU, a boatload of mid-60's garage bands you can add to the list; I'll be here all night reccommending stuff!

[Nevernose]

24. Does Devo count?

Good Lord, how does one categorize Devo? I know that I hear stuff all the time that can be directly attributed to Devo. Fisherspooner, for instance, I sometimes have trouble telling the difference between them and Devo.

[tuvor]

27. Maybe I'm an old fart, but their first two albums just never grow old.

Such joyous noise!

I still listen to them all the time in the car. When my wife's not in it. She can't stand them.

[norml]

28. Anything with Brian Eno

http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/

[norml]

32. Anything with Robert Fripp

http://www.elephant-talk.com/

[enigmatic]

38. "Baby's On Fire"

Fripp/Eno..

[norml]

41. The Smiths

http://www.askmeaskmeaskme.com/

[norml]

43. The Pretenders

http://www.pretendersband.com/

[norml]

44. Iggy Pop

http://www.iggypop.com/

[Tom Kitten]

46. So what about this win-win situation?

still waiting for your uh recommendations for the good indie bands you already like!

[norml]

47. David Bowie, like Iggy Pop, did music throughout that time period.

http://www.davidbowie.com/

[norml]

53. Sonic Youth

http://www.sonicyouth.com/

[leftist_rebel1569]

55. I own a Sonic Youth shirt.

and that's all that need be said about that.

[leftist_rebel1569]

58. Thanks, guys

This is turning into a thread that would even make James Murphy proud.

[leftist_rebel1569]

60. Oh, and one band that everyone should check out:

Sigur Ros.

They're a band from Iceland that makes some of the most mind-blowing music you'll ever hear. I'd describe it as dreamy and incredibly lush, with a heavy focus on the instruments.

If you're a little more curious (and you should be), you can learn a little more by pointing your browsers here: http://www.sigur-ros.co.uk/tour/index.html

[driver8]

63. One of my favorite bands of all time -- The Jam!!

I don't know if they are "post punk" or whatever that term is, but they are amazing.

Also check out the Buzzcocks.

[RebelOne]

65. Check out Chicago or Blood, Sweat and Tears.

Those are two of my favorites from the '70s.

[SkipNewarkDE]

66. Smiths

The Smiths were and are still wonderful... Morrissey was iconic.

Talking Heads is another great band from that era, and just incredibly influential.

[SkipNewarkDE]

73. Best Album of the '80's

(I am biased, but many music criics will probably agree) was Talking Head's 1980 release, "Remain In Light." It was one of those WOW moments in a band's evolution. Talking heads emerged in the mid to late '70's as a sort of thinking man's punk, but without all of the spitting and clothes. They had this three piece minimalist sound.

On the Remain in Light album they discovered African world beats, something that they toyed with on a track or two on the Fear of Music album. I remember putting that album on and being totally blown away by how innovative it was, this visceral music that just made you want to move. It would be several years later that such musicians as Sting, Peter Gabriel, and others, would take the Heads lead and start mining other cultural influences for their music.

[SKKY]

67. Husker Du blew my mind the first time I heard them.

[swag]

68. PiL - the first few albums

First Issue
Second Edition
Paris au Printemps (live)
Flowers of Romance

after that, they sucked, but those were great.

[swag]

69. Magazine

from Manchester (along with Joy Division, et al.)

Look into this band!

[enigmatic]

70. One More

before I go off the air; The Feelies. Purists worship their "Crazy Rhythms" album, but my favorite album is "The Good Earth"; strumming,shimmering, propulsive dual guitars backed by a steady beat, while Glen Mercer's vocals are deliberately buries in the mix because in the end, it's all about the guitars, the beat, and the moment.

With a bunch of great songs, too; "Slipping Into Something, "Slow Down", "The High Road"; I'm going to have to pull out that CD today..

[Deja Q]

71. Does the B-52s count?

:D

[ghostsofgiants]

72. Post punk?

Not even really sure what that means.

The Fall is good stuff, I've seen a few people mention them in this thread.

Someone also mentioned Bad Brains, definitely have to recommend them.

[LiberallyInclined]

74. Blondie.

next...

[Magrittes Pipe]

75. The Gun Club.

Not too many records better than The Fire of Love.