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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:24 PM
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Do you know the difference between a Old and New Immigrant?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 06:25 PM by Lady Freedom
Hmmmmmm????
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:27 PM
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1. it seems the old ones don't want any new ones to come here!
some of them don't at least.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:28 PM
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2. Yep
the old immigrants came to this country and "subdued the savages". They literally stole the land from the Native Americans, enslaving them and using chemical warfare upon those who resisted. I'm talking European immigrants in the 1600s, here, folks.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:32 PM
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5. the old immigrants also wrote the history books
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:29 PM
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8. you have to do a lot of research to find out the truth
going to original sources, town records, letters, wills, etc. But it is all there.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:14 PM
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14. my ancestors
hand history down in stories. i tell them to my children, and so on. one of my favorites is that three days after thanksgiving, the pilgrims slaughtered the "savages" because they refused JC as personal savior
we proudly call ourselves born again savage
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:44 AM
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17. actually
the Pilgrims nearly starved after that Thanksgiving feast, namely because another boatload of people came-just people, no supplies. If it hadn't been for the Natives, there would have been a swift end to the Plymouth Colony.

A lot of folks don't know that a certain element of the Europeans actually left Plymouth and went native, living with them on Cape Cod. These include Stephen Hopkins' family (he was hired by the company to come along because he'd been to Jamestown in 1611 and knew a bit about the Natives-Squanto stayed at his house) and Gabriel Wheldon's family-in fact, Gabriel and his brother were banished from Plymouth for their lifestyle choice, which included intermarriage with the natives-Gabriel married Massasoit's neice. (Sigh. My only claim to Native American ancestry. My husband is one quarter Cherokee).
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:32 PM
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9. Tangental query
What kind of chemical warfare was used? I absolutely am not being snarky, but I would have called it biological (smallpox infected blankets) and so was wondering if you were talking about that or something different? Although I suppose in a sense, it hardly matters; we live in this world now.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:04 PM
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13. You are right,
I meant biological. I was referring to giving Natives smallpox infected blankets.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:13 PM
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15. Thank you
I was just unsure if you meant something else; not that I'm an expert, but I work on American History college books, and so was wondering if something new had been uncovered.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:29 PM
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3. The old are accepted and the new aren't?
I guess I don't understand the question.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:30 PM
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4. Nope!! Keep trying!!!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:33 PM
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6. Acoustic vs. Electric?
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:40 PM
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7. Come on people!! Someome besides me knows this!!!
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magnussun Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:33 PM
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10. You'll love this
The old ones didn't have infrastructure, Fannie Mae, human rights, free medical care, freeways, vehicles, a social safety net or civil rights lawyers. The natives didn't issue green cards the way we do..
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:34 PM
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11. Before and after open immigration?
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:35 PM
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12. The Old Immigrant was written in Hebrew before the birth of Christ
and the New Imigrant was written in Greek and Aramaic after the birth of Christ.

Or maybe that was "Testiment." I always get those two confused.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:14 PM
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16. Is it Age?
C'mon, if not that, at least a little hint!
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