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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:00 PM
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World Series Boycott: Day II
I had a wonderful day yesterday. During the game I watched parts I and II of Ken Burns "Baseball" documentary. Many of today's prima donna players would not have lasted five minutes in the major leagues of 1900. Only the best players made enough money to live on. Players stayed in lousy hotels and often two to a bed. Fan violence toward players was often tolerated and excused. There were no player unions in those days. No, I am not suggesting that we go back to this state of affairs, only to suggest that today's players lack the toughness that players of previous generations had. Today I'll be watching part III as I continue to ignore this World Series.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:06 PM
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1. i may have missed something
but why are you bocotting the world series? I can understand not watching baseball, it's an incredibly boring thing to watch (like Cricket and Women's Basketball), but other than that, why?
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:09 PM
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3. He's also boycotting all Hollywood blockbusters
especially those movies starring Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson and Jim Carey. Those prima donnas wouldn't have lasted a day next to Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart and Spencer Tracey.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:15 PM
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7. LMAO!
:P
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 07:13 PM
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20. ba dump bump
Chhhhhhhh.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:09 PM
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4. Can't handle another Yankee world series
I have had enough of Derek, Jorge, Bernie, Roger, Mariano, Andy and the boys, not to mention the Fox sports announcers just fawning all over them. And the Marlins just bore me.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:02 PM
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12. They bore you!!??
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 05:03 PM by sleipnir
They're the most interesting team in baseball right now. They're young, they're scrappy and they've got the BEST, most interesting manager alive in the game. I love to see what intriquing moves or thrilling plays the Marlins decide to go with. They take major risks, they can come back like no team around today. They are the antithesis of the Yankees and last night proved it. Pudge's pick-off on third!!! A classic move!!! Stick it too those Bronx boys...
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:06 PM
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13. Pudge is THE MAN!
Cannon for an arm. I'm still crying over the Rangers letting him go.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:16 PM
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27. Pudge does this pointing to heaven thing when he scores.
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 09:17 PM by Why
I hate that. This is baseball, dammit, not the goddam NFL. Public praying is un-Christian; Jesus said so.

Edit: Besides, to me, only Carlton Fisk will be known as 'Pudge.'
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:10 PM
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6. Women's basketball is more exciting the baseball imo
They compete hard and the games are often down to the wire.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:09 PM
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2. I still remember the baseball strike
and when it was going around, the little league world series was proceding as scheduled.

One of the teams was from Northridge, CA and it was happening around the time that Northridge was hit with a huge earthquake.

So these little kids were playing in a world series deserving of the name and were doing so without being paid anything, many of them in fact homeless.

So in lieu of that (and a number of other reasons), I will never watch professional baseball ever again.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:10 PM
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5. I know why I'M not watching
Who cares? The boring part was made up for by the element of Chicahgo and Boston trying to be there.

With them gone I have zero interest
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:16 PM
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8. You wouldn't have boycotted
if your team had made it. But they didn't, and that's life.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:23 PM
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10. A Yankee fan lectures me about "fairness"
Um, OK.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:28 PM
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11. i don't see what's unfair about the yankees
Baseball wants to be retarded and not create a salary cap to even it up like the NFL, don't blame the yankees for baseball being stupid.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:32 AM
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28. Yawn... I'm sorry, were you trying to make a point?
;-) Oh, you were? Because I didn't catch one. Go weep.
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:18 PM
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9. I understand your pain, but
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 04:19 PM by NaMeaHou
the Marlins are actually going to pull it off.

In empathy for your boycott, I swear I will not watch any Woody Allen movie made before 1961.

By god, I mean it!
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:23 PM
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14. You really put the "boy" in boycott
'cuz your one-trick-pony act is childish. Your major point of contention seems to be that the Yankees and the Marlins dont deserve to be in the series. Why cant you do something about that? Why cant your team, like, win?

Next year, we'll cancel all the games, and you'll honor us with choosing the contenders, until then, why dont you just STFU?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:24 PM
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15. My, how times change
Though fan violence toward the players disturbs me. These days, such violence could be explained, if not justified. But back then, under THOSE conditions, some "fans" were still violent toward the players?!

A return to those conditions might get those in the industry to wake up and grow up and stop milking the fans for every penny they've got. Let alone their dealings with state governments in order to get lots of perks, stadiums, and what not.

I wish their unions would come to where I work. Wow, if those players can make THAT much money for doing nothing substantial, just imagine what us working class folk COULD be making!
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:45 PM
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16. Your petulant loserdom
would be - no doubt - much more dignified if you didn't feel the need to advertise it with such public huffing and pouting. How pathetic.


GO YANKEES!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 06:06 PM
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17. My lack-of-interest boycott begins AFTER the WS
Let's face it, if you're looking for "boring" sports, it doesn't get much worse than basketball and football. I can't imagine what people get out of those two "sports." Oh, yeah, it's the "life lessons" they teach. Right. Pathetic.

I might watch some down-under tennis and a few hockey games until next spring, but there's just too much else to do than to be tied to the idiot box, drinking beer and falling asleep during all the "excitement" of foosball and basketbore.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 06:09 PM
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18. The series has already begun???
Oh .... Well .... I hope that SOMEone wins.... :-)
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 06:13 PM
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19. bluestateguy, keep it up! I watched Spinal Tap and Office Space
instead of the World Series. Needed the laughs....
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 07:54 PM
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21. I agree, I'm boycotting, but your bumper stickers bother me--New
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 07:54 PM by joeybee12
American Patriotism?

Don't get it, and it kind of creeps me out.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 08:12 PM
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22. It's actually not so new
The real "new American patriotism" seems to come from this Administration, given their hostility to all criticism. General Clark simply wants to restore the idea that dissent can and should be considered patriotic: I have a feeling conservatives will want to embrace that idea once their crowd is out of power.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 08:18 PM
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24. One of the problems I have is it might make people stoip and think
Bumper stickers shouldn't--seriously--the message should be succint and clear.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 08:15 PM
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23. 'Nother Yankees World Series? Snore.
Who dey playin? Marlins? Da fuck is dat? A fish?

I suppose all 12 Marlin fans are really excited. I've got better things to do. Clean the toilet, trim my nose hairs. Exciting stuff like that.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 08:46 PM
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25. Actually
People Like Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza, and so on would've been the big stars - check out offensive statistics from that era sometime. Not to mention the fact that Walter Johnson was the first really "hard" thrower to come along, and that wasn't until the 1920's or so.

And Ken Burns' documentary is shit. It should've been called "New York and Boston Baseball," as it nearly completely ignores anything west of Pittsburgh. Or maybe it just put me to sleep before it got there, as his documentaries are so insufferably boring.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:13 PM
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26. It's The Yankees Fault
That Jeremy Giambi of the Oakland A's didn't slide at home in the 2001 ALDS. It's the Yankees' fault that Eric Byrnes didn't touch home plate. It's the Yankees' fault that Tejada didn't run hard to home and wanted the ump to call him safe. It's the Yankees' fault that the A's blew a 2-0 lead in the 2003 ALDS to the Boston Red Sox. It's the Yankees' fault that Grady Little left his starter in the game.

It's all the Yankees' and their money. Because it takes money to win in MLB, even though the Fla Marlins climbed over two teams with much larger payrolls, the Mets and the Phillies, to make it to the playoffs.

Yes, be childish all you want. Your Oakland A's are the biggest choke artists in the history of MLB. Four years into the playoffs. Four years you've gotten to the clincher game, and four years you've come up empty.

Don't blame the Yankees.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:32 AM
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29. Nobody likes a dynasty
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 03:32 AM by camero
even if it's a Yankee one. Especially a Yankee one...lol

From an Orioles fan who watched the owner royally screw his team up.
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