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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 11:42 PM
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I fucking hate Camille Paglia.
She's a pseudofeminist antifeminist who gives true feminists a bad name.

Why Maher has her on his show, right now, I don't know. Is he really pandering this desperately to the right?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 11:47 PM
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1. I had to turn it off
sometime after Maher said the Bush** stupidly did the right thing and she said how happy the women were in Iraq. :shrug: Thank goodness for the off switch.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:00 AM
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6. She said women are happy in Iraq?
Wow. Does anyone know where to access the portal to the alternate universe she lives in? I'd like to go pay that place a visit.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:02 AM
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8. That was not Camille Paglia..That was the Canadian Muslim Lesbian
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 12:07 AM by BrklynLiberal
whose name I cannot remember.

This is Camille Pagllia


This is the one who said the Iraqi women were happy
irshad manji


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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:04 AM
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13. Ooops!
Sorry.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 11:51 PM
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2. She never shuts up to let anyone else talk, either.
I couldn't stand Camille Paglia the first time I saw her, and my opinion has only dropped in the interim.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 11:57 PM
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3. She and Christina Hoff Sommers are of the same ilk.
Can't stand either one of them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:03 AM
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10. Also not Camille Paglia..She was not on the panel..She was only on
the video for 2 minutes.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:13 AM
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15. That is also Irshad Manji
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:00 AM
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5. wouldn't use the c word myself
but she probably would... she is such a self-involved muckracker. Sad that Sontag is gone, and this what we have left.


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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:00 AM
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7. Exactly. She blames academia for corrupting women by teaching...
them "archaic" feminist principles, too.

She and CHS are evil, evil women.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:03 AM
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9. I hate her too! Full of herself...
;(
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:03 AM
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11. She was all over the media in the early '90s
talking about how she was excluded from the media. She was sort of the template for RW whining about the "liberal" media. What a loathsome worm.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:03 AM
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12. She was all over the media in the early '90s
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 12:04 AM by 6000eliot
talking about how she was excluded from the media. She was sort of the template for RW whining about the "liberal" media. What a loathsome worm.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:11 AM
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14. because Maher at heart is a misogynist.
a brilliant one with a sparkling wit, but a misogynist none the less, and that type luv miss paglia.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:29 AM
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16. Molly Ivins on Camille Paglia
Impolitic, by Molly Ivins.

I Am the Cosmos

Austin, Texas --- ``So write about Camille Paglia,'' suggested the
editor. Like any normal person, I replied, ``And who the hell might
she be?''

Big cheese in New York intellectual circles. The latest rage. Hot
stuff. Controversial.

But I'm not good on New York intellectual controversies, I explained.
Could never bring myself to give a rat's ass about Jerzy Kosinski.
Never read Andy Warhol's diaries. Can never remember the name of the
editor of this _New Whatsit_, the neo-con critical rag. I'm a no-hoper
on this stuff, practically a professional provincial.

Read Paglia, says he, you'll have an opinion. So I did; and I do.

Christ! Get this woman a Valium!

Hand her a gin. Try meditation. Camille, honey, calm down!

The noise is about her _oeuvre_, as we always say in Lubbock: _Sexual
Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson_. In
very brief, for those of you who have been playing hooky from the _New
York Review of Books_, Ms. Paglia's contention is that ``the history
of western civilization has been a constant struggle between ... two
impulses, an unending tennis match between cold, Apollonian
categorization and Dionysian lust and chaos.'' Jeez, me too. I always
thought the world was divided into only two kinds of people --- those
who think the world is divided into only two kinds of people, and
those who don't.

<snip>
One of her latest efforts at playing enfant terrible in intellectual
circles was a peppy essay for _Newsday_, claiming that either there is
no such thing as date rape or, if there is, it's women's fault because
we dress so provocatively. Thanks, Camille, I've got some Texas
fraternity boys I want you to meet.

There is one area in which I think Paglia and I would agree that
politically correct feminism has produced a noticeable inequity.
Nowadays, when a woman behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable
fashion, we say, ``Poor dear, it's probably PMS.'' Whereas, if a man
behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable fashion, we say, ``What an
asshole.'' Let me leap to correct this unfairness by saying of Paglia,
Sheesh, what an asshole.
http://bush.cs.tamu.edu/~erich/misc/ivins_on_paglia
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